Earlsdon_Skyblue1
Well-Known Member
Well you are now putting words into my mouth and hurling more insults, which just about proves my point.
Have a lovely evening sir.
I haven't misinterpreted anything you're just an idiot who's embarrassed by the fact I've made you look as such and so has thrown his toys out the pram.
Quote me saying the entire market is closed off including the European first divisions?
Utter moron.
You're absolutely right.Brexit means that that English clubs can no longer sign any player they wish from Europe due to the new points based system. Also no overseas U18s are allowed to be signed either by PL or EFL clubs.
Using Norwich as an example this means that players such as Buendia and Pukki would not have been able to be signed if at the time the new system was in place.
The points based system assesses a player's eligibility on a range of factors such as international experience and the league and the team he has been signed from etc.
As such clubs are going to have to significantly change their recruitment strategies and with bringing in players from Europe now becoming that much harder due to a huge proportion of said players not qualifying under the new points based system, they have to be a lot smarter with their recruitment.
With a significant market such as this being heavily closed off, experts within the industry believe that we're going to see more players coming from South America. But like I said, I don't think that's applicable for the majority of the Championship as most won't have the scouting network in place to tap into those markets for the obvious reasons - cost.
So the first port of call is going to be looking closer to home for the aforementioned reasons.
Believe what you want but I really don't think I'm the idiot in this scenario.
Well you are now putting words into my mouth and hurling more insults, which just about proves my point.
Have a lovely evening sir.
Brexit did affect the transfer market. Doesn’t he points system revolve on factors such as international caps, league standing, purchase price, and position in the league of the selling club.
it’s not technically closed off, we could say pay 16m for a Dutch international from Ajax, but realistically it’s not feasible for 90% of clubs in England.
im sure Boddy said we couldn’t purchase Hamer in the current climate
He has played an international game so I assume its possible somewhatCould we sign Ostigard ?
It is amazing the lengths some people will go to avoid admitting they made a mistake.
You went from rehashing a poorly researched article from The Athletic (which you also then misinterpreted) to just making things up. On domestic football alone for a player with an EU passport, yes, there are some more restrictions now, but they still do not mean the whole market (including lower league) are closed off like you have said. When you include international appearances (FIFA seeding is weighted, not absolute, check that too), or the origin of a players passport (one of which apply to both said players Pukki and Bunedia), then they are not confined to the same restraints as someone from Kickers Offenbach would be. Appearances also count for a lot, as it is a staggered system, with domestic and international pointing combined (yes I know you are just panicking and quick searching this too).
You made an angry outburst about brexit and now you are just making yourself look even sillier by trying to get acute, which would be a half-sensible save if your facts were remotely correct. Yes, we are probably looking at a player from a higher European league, but why wouldn't we be? We are an established Championship club now. Transfer policy will not massively be changing because we can't suddenly sign someone from the Polish fourth division.
Could we sign Ostigard ?
Looks like Earlsdon was wrong then. Wonder if he will admit to it.I found the Athletic article that @KenilworthSkyBlue referenced.
On Norwich it says:
" Norwich are one of the clubs with the most to change in terms of their scouting and recruitment strategy following Brexit. Of 17 signings made since the arrival of sporting director Stuart Webber, 11 would not have been handed a governing body endorsement (GBE) — including Teemu Pukki and Emi Buendia. Even Daniel Farke would not have been able to join the club as head coach. "
I presume that he already holds UK residence rights, as he was already based in the UK when we left the EU.
Looks like Earlsdon was wrong then. Wonder if he will admit to it.
Looks like Earlsdon was wrong then. Wonder if he will admit to it.
I found the Athletic article that @KenilworthSkyBlue referenced.
On Norwich it says:
" Norwich are one of the clubs with the most to change in terms of their scouting and recruitment strategy following Brexit. Of 17 signings made since the arrival of sporting director Stuart Webber, 11 would not have been handed a governing body endorsement (GBE) — including Teemu Pukki and Emi Buendia. Even Daniel Farke would not have been able to join the club as head coach. "
The article isn't very accurate, which is partly why our friend from Kenilworth has ended up going down such a blind alley in the first place.
Looks like Earlsdon was wrong then. Wonder if he will admit to it.
Brexit did affect the transfer market. Doesn’t he points system revolve on factors such as international caps, league standing, purchase price, and position in the league of the selling club.
it’s not technically closed off, we could say pay 16m for a Dutch international from Ajax, but realistically it’s not feasible for 90% of clubs in England.
im sure Boddy said we couldn’t purchase Hamer in the current climate
Oh dearThe article isn't very accurate, which is partly why our friend from Kenilworth has ended up going down such a blind alley in the first place.
im sure Boddy said we couldn’t purchase Hamer in the current climate
I think that’s the idea, stops teams taking punts on foreign players in order to force them to use young English players, whilst simultaneously still bringing in talented imports.That was the belief when the rules were first touted, when they actually came in he would have just about qualified but it was close.
The likes of Dacosta, Jobello, Hilßner wouldn't - maybe that would have been a blessing?
Norway was never in the EU anyway.
Not sure what the obsession is with this guy.Could we sign Ostigard ?
Perhaps if they stopped letting the big teams hoard the good young English players then maybe we'd get more young English players playing through the leagues.I think that’s the idea, stops teams taking punts on foreign players in order to force them to use young English players, whilst simultaneously still bringing in talented imports.
ultimately it still cuts off an avenue, For example the next Mahrez is not likely - he is another player I’m sure they said wouldn’t have been found.
Think they’re trying that aswell, you’re only allowed 8 players out on loan now. The idea is if can’t be loaned out it would make players think twice about joining these clubsPerhaps if they stopped letting the big teams hoard the good young English players then maybe we'd get more young English players playing through the leagues.
It's a start.Think they’re trying that aswell, you’re only allowed 8 players out on loan now. The idea is if can’t be loaned out it would make players think twice about joining these clubs
Not sure what the obsession is with this guy.
he had a few good games at the end of last season and did a great social media post
move on
If that’s correct there must be some bargains to be had at Chelsea who have over 30 out on loan.Think they’re trying that aswell, you’re only allowed 8 players out on loan now. The idea is if can’t be loaned out it would make players think twice about joining these clubs
If he's been bombed out of loan club for lack of discipline leave well alone.Not shouting for it, but Josh Murphy (Cardiff paid £11m for him from Norwich) been bombed out of his loan club PNE for attitude, tardiness!
Cardiff not renewing deal at end of season
Josh Murphy's miserable season ends as PNE axe Cardiff man over 'attitude' issue
The Bluebirds winger has had a torrid season on loan up at Deepdale and the Lancashire club have already bombed him out of the squadwww.walesonline.co.uk
If he's been bombed out of loan club for lack of discipline leave well alone.
It wasn't bollocks
We spoke to Twine, Bright and Paterson
Was looking like Paterson was a done deal until he wanted more cash when Swansea popped up, and MR plumped for Bright over Twine
There's a reason he ended up at MK Dons in league 1 when hes clearly a lot more talented, MR went for Bright
I think he looked ok in the prem when Cardiff were there, and fans expected him to ‘kick on’ in the championship. Apart from a few games when McCarthy took over, hasn’t done anything or looked good at all.Not disagreeing (and can't think his brother would encourage him after his experience here either !). Quite a fall from grace, though.
Surely we went for Bright because he was all we could afford? I doubt he was asking for more wages than Twine, we signed from East Bengal ffs.
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