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stevefloyd

stevefloyd

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shmmeee said:
Reckon our final loan will be a striker. Now we’ve got a LWB I can see Bidwell filling in until Fadz is back at the end of Feb.

The more I think about it the less I think we’ll make permanent signings this window unless something pops up. New owner, new recruitment team, massive changes in the summer. Makes sense to give the recruitment team time to find players on whatever the new budget is.
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The thing is now we have 2 new wingbacks they will need to 'bed' in to our way of playing assuming they both play on Saturday so bringing a 3rd new player into the back line would really be asking for possible trouble
 
fatso

fatso

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stevefloyd said:
I can never understand this, I never liked Shipley as a player towards the end and I don't think much of Allen either as a player but only because how they perform for us and nothing to do with them as human beings! Booing your own players is just plain stupid, am I relieved when they go off ...yes but equally if they score I am happy so I sort of contradict myself but as pissed off as I am sometimes when we lose I have never booed our team or players.
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For me, this perfectly sums up CCFC, a club where mediocrity is accepted, where little to no pressure is applied, where players can turn up and just go through the motions with no fear of a backlash, and gullible fans will just shrug their shoulders and accept it.
Too many fans just accept shit!
If you don't demand success, you can never expect to achieve it.

There's a reason why Man utd were so successful with Ferguson as a manager and Keane as a captain. Its because they absolutely demanded 100% from everyone at the club.
 
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Yorkshire SB

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fatso said:
For me, this perfectly sums up CCFC, a club where mediocrity is accepted, where little to no pressure is applied, where players can turn up and just go through the motions with no fear of a backlash, and gullible fans will just shrug their shoulders and accept it.
Too many fans just accept shit!
If you don't demand success, you can never expect to achieve it.

There's a reason why Man utd were so successful with Ferguson as a manager and Keane as a captain. Its because they absolutely demanded 100% from everyone at the club.
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😂 haha, we’re not where we are because we haven’t booed our own players enough
 
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Tomh111

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fatso said:
For me, this perfectly sums up CCFC, a club where mediocrity is accepted, where little to no pressure is applied, where players can turn up and just go through the motions with no fear of a backlash, and gullible fans will just shrug their shoulders and accept it.
Too many fans just accept shit!
If you don't demand success, you can never expect to achieve it.

There's a reason why Man utd were so successful with Ferguson as a manager and Keane as a captain. Its because they absolutely demanded 100% from everyone at the club.
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This is such a terrible take
 
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fatso said:
For me, this perfectly sums up CCFC, a club where mediocrity is accepted, where little to no pressure is applied, where players can turn up and just go through the motions with no fear of a backlash, and gullible fans will just shrug their shoulders and accept it.
Too many fans just accept shit!
If you don't demand success, you can never expect to achieve it.

There's a reason why Man utd were so successful with Ferguson as a manager and Keane as a captain. Its because they absolutely demanded 100% from everyone at the club.
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Do you believe it helps a player to be booed by their own fans? Or that it makes the team play better if one if them is targeted by their own fans? Would you do your job better if someone you work with came and criticised you while you are working?

Booing some opposition players is also counter productive. It depends on their character but for some it just makes them more determined.
 
fatso

fatso

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Deleted member 9744 said:
Do you believe it helps a player to be booed by their own fans? Or that it makes the team play better if one if them is targeted by their own fans? Would you do your job better if someone you work with came and criticised you while you are working?

Booing some opposition players is also counter productive. It depends on their character but for some it just makes them more determined.
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Some players will rise to the critics and prove them wrong, or try to improve themselves, others will buckle under the pressure and hide away. Which do you want?

If I underperformed at work I know I'd be told in no uncertain terms, and if I didn't improve I'd be "managed" out of the business, not paid till the end of my contract like a molycodled footballer.

Do you think it's a coincidence that the team has performed so much better under a manager who experienced life under Sir Alex Ferguson?

Success is available to those who fight for it, anyone who buckles under a bit of harmless booing isn't worthy of it.
If your happy with second tier mediocrity then carry on, but that's all you'll get.
 
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fatso said:
Some players will rise to the critics and prove them wrong, or try to improve themselves, others will buckle under the pressure and hide away. Which do you want?
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That applies to opposition players.

Your own players are likely to respond to support rather than criticism.

By the way, just out if curiosity, do you shout forward a lot at matches?
 
fatso

fatso

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Deleted member 9744 said:
That applies to opposition players.

Your own players are likely to respond to support rather than criticism.

By the way, just out if curiosity, do you shout forward a lot at matches?
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Support is great when players are seen to give 100%, regardless of the result.
Any team will loose matches, but it's often said there are ways to loose matches.

We've had too many players over the years who haven't always given 100% though.
And imo, they should incur the booing.

And no I never shout forward at matches, .... strange question that!
 
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SBT

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Frostie said:
Probably both imo. He has talent but his numbers were massively inflated due to his style of basically shooting from anywhere & everywhere. Don't think any PL clubs are built to let him do that really.

This is what I said at the time:
21/22 Summer transfer mega-thread
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Given that our playing style currently seems to involve taking a lot of (often low-quality) shots, might he actually be a decent fit here? (Not that we could afford him, of course)
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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fatso said:
Some players will rise to the critics and prove them wrong, or try to improve themselves, others will buckle under the pressure and hide away. Which do you want?

If I underperformed at work I know I'd be told in no uncertain terms, and if I didn't improve I'd be "managed" out of the business, not paid till the end of my contract like a molycodled footballer.

Do you think it's a coincidence that the team has performed so much better under a manager who experienced life under Sir Alex Ferguson?

Success is available to those who fight for it, anyone who buckles under a bit of harmless booing isn't worthy of it.
If your happy with second tier mediocrity then carry on, but that's all you'll get.
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You’d be told by your manager in your performance review. You wouldn’t have your customers and colleagues booing you while you work.

And our relationship with players is more like parents than employers.
 
slowpoke

slowpoke

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shmmeee said:
You’d be told by your manager in your performance review. You wouldn’t have your customers and colleagues booing you while you work.

And our relationship with players is more like parents than employers.
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fatso said:
You obviously don't remember the hostile atmosphere at Old Trafford before Fergy then.
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We have to have players to boo here at ccfc gone on for years, poor old Jordan Shipley, one of our own apparently, had it for two years, Burge before him, they have been replaced by Jamie Allen he gets moaned about for just being on the team sheet be interesting who will replace him.
 
Matt smith

Matt smith

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fatso said:
For me, this perfectly sums up CCFC, a club where mediocrity is accepted, where little to no pressure is applied, where players can turn up and just go through the motions with no fear of a backlash, and gullible fans will just shrug their shoulders and accept it.
Too many fans just accept shit!
If you don't demand success, you can never expect to achieve it.

There's a reason why Man utd were so successful with Ferguson as a manager and Keane as a captain. Its because they absolutely demanded 100% from everyone at the club.
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This is the classic arguement of a fan base
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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fatso said:
Some players will rise to the critics and prove them wrong, or try to improve themselves, others will buckle under the pressure and hide away. Which do you want?

If I underperformed at work I know I'd be told in no uncertain terms, and if I didn't improve I'd be "managed" out of the business, not paid till the end of my contract like a molycodled footballer.

Do you think it's a coincidence that the team has performed so much better under a manager who experienced life under Sir Alex Ferguson?

Success is available to those who fight for it, anyone who buckles under a bit of harmless booing isn't worthy of it.
If your happy with second tier mediocrity then carry on, but that's all you'll get.
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The classic it works for me so it must work everyone argument
 
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