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Waste of his money. They are private corporations with their own T+C's you have to agree to before signing up. Their is no freedom of speech first amendment issue as they are not government actors.
Might play well with the nutters, though.
 

skybluetony176

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skybluetony176

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Really surprised non of the usual suspects have revised this thread given the terrible decision making that Biden has done regarding Afghanistan and the awful situation it’s lead to.

Biden stumbles over a word. Quick, revise the thread and make out he’s incompetent for having a speech impediment. Biden makes one of the worst foreign policy decisions in US political history, certainly since the decision to invade Iraq. Silence. This about sums up the political understanding of the sort of people who think Trump good, Biden bad.
 

shmmeee

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Really surprised non of the usual suspects have revised this thread given the terrible decision making that Biden has done regarding Afghanistan and the awful situation it’s lead to.

Biden stumbles over a word. Quick, revise the thread and make out he’s incompetent for having a speech impediment. Biden makes one of the worst foreign policy decisions in US political history, certainly since the decision to invade Iraq. Silence. This about sums up the political understanding of the sort of people who think Trump good, Biden bad.

Didn’t Trump start the policy so not sure they’d have a leg to stand on.

Ridiculous policy.
 

Evo1883

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Didn’t Trump start the policy so not sure they’d have a leg to stand on.

Ridiculous policy.

Well , Biden has reversed a million and one of trumps policies , he had ample time to reverse the withdrawal..he never.

Things changed in the time between agreement and now , mostly a presidential change

There's also the fact that foreign powers simply don't fear Biden like they feared trump.. nothing to do with his ability as president , just a plain old truth burger
 
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Evo1883

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And yes ... I did just say truth burger
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shmmeee

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Well , Biden has reversed a million and one of trumps policies , he had ample time to reverse the withdrawal..he never.

Things changed in the time between agreement and now , mostly a presidential change

There's also the fact that foreign powers simply don't fear Biden like they feared trump.. nothing to do with his ability as president , just a plain old truth burger

I don’t think any foreign powers feared Trump mate. NK/Russia/China all bold as brass during his presidency. He was an isolationist, why would they fear him?

Last four presidents all to blame, trying to blame one or two just partisan politics TBH. Started by Bush, continued by Obama, fucked up by Trump and Biden. Whatever bit of the political spectrum you reside on there’s some blame for you there.
 

Evo1883

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I don’t think any foreign powers feared Trump mate. NK/Russia/China all bold as brass during his presidency. He was an isolationist, why would they fear him?

Last four presidents all to blame, trying to blame one or two just partisan politics TBH. Started by Bush, continued by Obama, fucked up by Trump and Biden. Whatever bit of the political spectrum you reside on there’s some blame for you there.

Yea ofcourse .

Biden was warned in June he needed to remove all American allies , he failed to do so
Biden was told by intelligence it would crumble fast , he ignored it , then lied about it .

He was also vice president under Obama for 8 years , so he's had a big part in this whole adventure .

Facts are , the taliban were nowhere to be seen under trump .. look at the deaths of troops in those 4 years to see ..
Also I still don't think you give trump credit for the situation in North korea which was handled brilliantly by his administration.

Biden is weak , nobody fears America under him ..and that's why the taliban didn't even give them enough time to fully withdraw before they quite literally steamrolled through and said fuck you 🤷‍♂️

I know you don't like Trump, but it's clear to see

The whole blame lies solely with Blair and Bush, because ofcourse without them it doesn't happen to begin with
 
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clint van damme

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Yea ofcourse .

Biden was warned in June he needed to remove all American allies , he failed to do so
Biden was told by intelligence it would crumble fast , he ignored it , then lied about it .

He was also vice president under Obama for 8 years , so he's had a big part in this whole adventure .

Facts are , the taliban were nowhere to be seen under trump .. look at the deaths of troops in those 4 years to see ..
Also I still don't think you give trump credit for the situation in North korea which was handled brilliantly by his administration.

Biden is weak , nobody fears America under him ..and that's why the taliban didn't even give them enough time to fully withdraw before they quite literally steamrolled through and said fuck you 🤷‍♂️

I know you don't like Trump, but it's clear to see

Trump got Baradar released, Pompeo met with him in 2020.
The Taliban knew they just had to wait. This was happening whoever was in the Whitehouse, there are numerous statements from both men indicating so, what I dont understand is why.
 

Evo1883

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Trump got Baradar released, Pompeo met with him in 2018.
The Taliban knew they just had to wait. This was happening whoever was in the Whitehouse, there are numerous statements from both men indicating so, what I dont understand is why.

Who knows what deals they had in place with the trump administration? That's also something we haven't mentioned ...they'd obviously spoken to taliban leaders around 18/19 and we don't know what guarantees were given ..

What we do know is that the taliban seem to have no fear of retaliation on this at all and have swept through like they know nothing will be done
 

clint van damme

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Yea ofcourse .

Biden was warned in June he needed to remove all American allies , he failed to do so
Biden was told by intelligence it would crumble fast , he ignored it , then lied about it .

He was also vice president under Obama for 8 years , so he's had a big part in this whole adventure .

Facts are , the taliban were nowhere to be seen under trump .. look at the deaths of troops in those 4 years to see ..
Also I still don't think you give trump credit for the situation in North korea which was handled brilliantly by his administration.

Biden is weak , nobody fears America under him ..and that's why the taliban didn't even give them enough time to fully withdraw before they quite literally steamrolled through and said fuck you 🤷‍♂️

I know you don't like Trump, but it's clear to see

The whole blame lies solely with Blair and Bush, because ofcourse without them it doesn't happen to begin with

Would have been interesting to see if this would have happened as fast under trump, maybe , but I'd imagine with a bit more pushback from the USA and a little more hesitantcy from the taliban leaders

Trump said he would have been out in May.
Of course we'll never know if that would have been the case
 

Evo1883

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Trump said he would have been out in May.
Of course we'll never know if that would have been the case

We won't know , but trump hasn't been in office for several months .. Biden didn't have to let it go south this badly ...that I'm sure we can agree on

He's had time
 

clint van damme

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Who knows what deals they had in place with the trump administration? That's also something we haven't mentioned ...they'd obviously spoken to taliban leaders around 18/19 and we don't know what guarantees were given ..

What we do know is that the taliban seem to have no fear of retaliation on this at all and have swept through like they know nothing will be done

They knew the Americans were going, all they had to do was be patient.

Trump set the wheels in motion and Biden never had any intention of reversing that course of action, in fact if Trump hadn't of started the process he would.

At least corporate America troused 2 trillion of taxpayer's money
 

Evo1883

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They knew the Americans were going, all they had to do was be patient.

Trump set the wheels in motion and Biden never had any intention of reversing that course of action, in fact if Trump hadn't of started the process he would.

At least corporate America troused 2 trillion of taxpayer's money


End of the day let's look at it another way .

It's taken 9 days basically for the taliban to sweep from North to South to kabul .

And the afghan governments biggest ally joe Biden remained almost silent and decides to talk a day after kabul falls .

Trump or not , THAT is disastrous leadership
 

clint van damme

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End of the day let's look at it another way .

It's taken 9 days basically for the taliban to sweep from North to South to kabul .

And the afghan governments biggest ally joe Biden remained almost silent and decides to talk a day after kabul falls .

Trump or not , THAT is disastrous leadership

It didn't take 9 days. Its been in the pipeline for far longer.
Scratch below the surface a bit and theres plenty of evidence of that.
But Biden didn't stop it because its was too late, he didn't stop it because he didn't want to.
 

Evo1883

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It didn't take 9 days. Its been in the pipeline for far longer.
Scratch below the surface a bit and theres plenty of evidence of that.
But Biden didn't stop it because its was too late, he didn't stop it because he didn't want to.

They took almost all the major cities in 6 days to be fair .. not 9 my mistake .

Yea they've been doing bits and bobs along the northern borders for a few weeks , but they literally steamrolled it in the last 9 days
 

clint van damme

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They took almost all the major cities in 6 days to be fair .. not 9 my mistake .

It was lined up to happen long before last week.
And how are the Taliban capable of defeating am army with 4 times the troops that the Yanks spent billions training?
I'd love to see a breakdown of what happened there.
The whole thing stinks.
 

Evo1883

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It was lined up to happen long before last week.
And how are the Taliban capable of defeating am army with 4 times the troops that the Yanks spent billions training?
I'd love to see a breakdown of what happened there.
The whole thing stinks.

to protect them and their families lives .

They also share many common values with their taliban brothers , many more than they do with their western allies .
Religion is so powerful too .

The whole thing is a farce you can't change a place with hundreds of years of values in 20 years .

The taliban now have Western equipment and potentially upto 2-300,000 Western trained troops at their disposal .

They are stronger than ever

We should never have gone to begin with
 

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