Sky Blue Pete
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Yep we’re complicit and tosspots
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Sky Blue Pete
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Then we leave the Chinese treatment of the muslims in their country without action
Ian1779
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I’m not saying we should do that - but in the last 15 years have we had good foreign policy? Selling weapons to the Saudis for example.
Sky Blue Pete
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I know I was saying it to myself
Sky Blue Pete
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Awful stories coming out of Ethiopia too
fernandopartridge
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They're about as for union as Labour are for labour. A break up of the UK would cement the one party state they're constructing at the moment.
tisza
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It's either everyone stops interfering or no-one does.
Syrian conflict was drawn out as Russia backed Assad for their own purposes. Iraq and Yemen will continue to be proxy battlegrounds for proponents of either side of Islamic "war" as someone will arm them.
The West stops selling arms to certain parties then Chinese and Russian manufacturers will step in.
You can't take an international NIMBY approach when other nation states will look to capitalise.
What these conflicts highlight is how ineffectual the UN is particularly on security issues when certain countries can veto measures to serve their own interests.
skybluetony176
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Scrap that. Seems we’ve lost what little conscience we had left.
shmmeee
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Why would he? He’s the most powerful Republican politician by a long way. They’ll keep dancing to his tune while we still controls so much of their voter base.
David O'Day
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And they'll lose even in places thought to be safe seats for them as he is toxic to the non republican base.
SomersetSB
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Omg what a state,Doesn’t know what day it is!!!
Biden completely forgets what he’s talking about and mumbles incoherently at camera in excruciating press conference
www.thesun.co.uk
Biden completely forgets what he’s talking about and mumbles incoherently at camera in excruciating press conference
Confused Biden walks away from podium in middle of question after mumbling
CONFUSED Joe Biden completely forgot what he was talking about and mumbled incoherently at the camera before walking away from the podium mid-question in an excruciating press conference. The presi…
www.thesun.co.uk
Skybluefaz
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Cheers SunbotOmg what a state,Doesn’t know what day it is!!!
Biden completely forgets what he’s talking about and mumbles incoherently at camera in excruciating press conference
Confused Biden walks away from podium in middle of question after mumbling
CONFUSED Joe Biden completely forgot what he was talking about and mumbled incoherently at the camera before walking away from the podium mid-question in an excruciating press conference. The presi…
clint van damme
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Omg what a state,Doesn’t know what day it is!!!
Biden completely forgets what he’s talking about and mumbles incoherently at camera in excruciating press conference
Confused Biden walks away from podium in middle of question after mumbling
CONFUSED Joe Biden completely forgot what he was talking about and mumbled incoherently at the camera before walking away from the podium mid-question in an excruciating press conference. The presi…
I think he's got your login
shmmeee
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Omg what a state,Doesn’t know what day it is!!!
Biden completely forgets what he’s talking about and mumbles incoherently at camera in excruciating press conference
Confused Biden walks away from podium in middle of question after mumbling
CONFUSED Joe Biden completely forgot what he was talking about and mumbled incoherently at the camera before walking away from the podium mid-question in an excruciating press conference. The presi…
Did you even watch the video?
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The Sun said:
Forget the actual report, should a major media source be giving oxygen to these nutters? They're hardly appropriate political commentators!
David O'Day
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Clearly not as what the Sun say it shows it clearly doesn't
Itsatwat is our own fake news bot
skybluetony176
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Dominion Voting sues Fox News for $1.6bn over election fraud claims
Conservatives baselessly claimed that Dominion Voting System rigged the 2020 vote against Donald Trump.
www.bbc.co.uk
Sick Boy
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Was going to say that even for their low standards the articles plunges to new depths.
David O'Day
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Democrats plan to unveil legislation to expand the US supreme court by four seats
Proposal, aimed at breaking up a conservative majority on the court, is predicted to draw opposition from Republicans
i remember when a certain southern based sky blue laughed at me when I said they would do this
Brighton Sky Blue
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Democrats plan to unveil legislation to expand the US supreme court by four seats
Proposal, aimed at breaking up a conservative majority on the court, is predicted to draw opposition from Republicanswww.theguardian.com
i remember when a certain southern based sky blue laughed at me when I said they would do this
Biden isn’t supporting this though is he, unusually for him he has promised the much more substantive and praiseworthy act of completely withdrawing from Afghanistan by September. He does that I’ll be surprised but very pleased.
He is wary of just expanding the SC as it sets a precedent of each party rigging it when they get in power. These proposals just like the recent one to turn DC into the 51st state will die in the Senate. Shame that the Democrats didn’t obstruct Barrett’s appointment when they had the chance eh.
What were the Democrats’ options to obstruct ACB? From a legislative point of view, there was pretty much nothing they could do.
Also surprised you’re praising Biden’s Afghanistan decision - the Trump admin had already agreed a full withdrawal by May!
Brighton Sky Blue
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I will praise it happening when it does. On Barrett there were plenty of options that could have been employed to stall the nomination until after the election:
Memo on Supreme Court Delay Tactics Circulates Among Senate Democrats
A new memo spells out the myriad options available to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer to delay confirmation of a new Supreme Court justice.
theintercept.com
They didn’t attempt to do so for political reasons going into the election to try and boost turnout. If the position were reversed and they were faced with a 6-3 progressive court, the Republicans would have obstructed it to the maximum extent.
shmmeee
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I will praise it happening when it does. On Barrett there were plenty of options that could have been employed to stall the nomination until after the election:
Memo on Supreme Court Delay Tactics Circulates Among Senate Democrats
A new memo spells out the myriad options available to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer to delay confirmation of a new Supreme Court justice.
They didn’t attempt to do so for political reasons going into the election to try and boost turnout. If the position were reversed and they were faced with a 6-3 progressive court, the Republicans would have obstructed it to the maximum extent.
Well they did when it was what? 4-4? Under Obama?
Brighton Sky Blue
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They blocked Merrick Garland’s nomination for 10 months, but did also control the Senate. In this case the Dems still controlled the House and there was a relatively short time until the election.
They just didn’t want to put up a fight and it was quite deliberate.
I don't think it was about not wanting to put up a fight - Senate Democrats did try some of the delay tactics listed in that memo above, and they didn't work. Other options (Impeachment? Really?) were a nonstarter. I agree with you that they had one eye on the election - I have no idea if swing state voters felt able to vote Democrat in November because they didn't explicitly say they were going to pack the court, but it certainly wouldn't have helped Biden's pitch as a bipartisan alternative.
The Dems also had the problem of setting precedent - the Garland nomination showed that the ONLY thing which matters in getting Supreme Court justices confirmed is control of the Senate. With the strong likelihood of a Biden WH/GOP Senate at that point, ripping up the Senate rulebook would have been an invitation for McConnell to take even more liberties than he would have done anyway had he still been majority leader after January 20. And it still wouldn't have likely made a difference in getting ACB confirmed. Frustrating from a left-wing activist POV, but I can see the rationale behind not going thermonuclear.
The Dems also had the problem of setting precedent - the Garland nomination showed that the ONLY thing which matters in getting Supreme Court justices confirmed is control of the Senate. With the strong likelihood of a Biden WH/GOP Senate at that point, ripping up the Senate rulebook would have been an invitation for McConnell to take even more liberties than he would have done anyway had he still been majority leader after January 20. And it still wouldn't have likely made a difference in getting ACB confirmed. Frustrating from a left-wing activist POV, but I can see the rationale behind not going thermonuclear.
Brighton Sky Blue
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They now have the bigger problem of setting the precedent of just expanding the SC to stack it in their favour, which if done repeatedly defeats the purpose of the institution. My point here is that McConnell always goes thermonuclear, and so usually always gets what he wants. The GOP must have sent a repeal Obamacare paper to Obama's desk dozens of times, not because they thought he'd ever sign it but to keep the pressure up.
The Dems never go thermonuclear unless it's to blunt the progressive wing of the party. As it is, even if Biden wants to put incremental changes in place it can be easily slapped down by the stacked court.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Rep's blocked Obama's pick. Had it been the other way round you know McConnell would've done everything he could to block the appointment.
Can't see this actually happening. Would just lead to a House of Lords situation in the States to ensure whoever has the presidency controls the court.
Brighton Sky Blue
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On this point they actually didn't, some troops were still remaining under those plans. Yes I'd like them all gone years ago but a commitment to them all being gone and the reasoning he gave (Bin Laden dead and Al Qaeda neutralised) was pleasing.
Not that he's going to pursue a $15 minimum wage, give people healthcare or legalise marijuana, but it's something.
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Ex-Trump adviser mocked for claiming Biden pushing ‘plant-based beer’
Plant-based Beer? Whatever next!
Plant-based Beer? Whatever next!
skybluetony176
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Plant based rubber?
skybluetony176
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WITCH HUNT!
Trump fumes as New York inquiry now a criminal probe
The New York attorney general's investigation of the Trump Organisation is "no longer purely civil".
www.bbc.co.uk
Skybluefaz
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clint van damme
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Saw this, just waiting to read that it's been taken as some sort of covert sign by QAnon (and several posters on here), for some more terrorism.