Brighton Sky Blue
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Even at the lower end of this estimate, and as someone who is no fan of Biden, he created as many jobs as Trump lost. Purely on the economy he has done far better than his predecessor.
Even at the lower end of this estimate, and as someone who is no fan of Biden, he created as many jobs as Trump lost. Purely on the economy he has done far better than his predecessor.The 800,000 jobs claim isn't quite that simple. Most of those weren't new jobs created by Biden.
About 600,000 of those are jobs that were "recovered" in 2021/22 after the layoffs during Covid. That's still around 200,000 newly created jobs which isn't to be sniffed at - but it's certainly way less than the 800,000, or even 15 million claim that Biden made a few months ago.
Age discrimination thoughThey could kill that easily, by bringing in a 'not allowed to put yourself forward after the age of 75,' then if anyone did get in, in their mid 70's, they could only run for one term.
But they have a lower age limit of 35. So if that age discrimination is ok why not old age? An 80 year old is far more likely to be incapable due to age than a 25 or 30 year old.Age discrimination though
Well, according to the constitution he can't as you're only allowed two terms. But I fully expect him to try and overturn that if he wins along with numerous other checks on presidential power. What's more scary is that I think it may just happen as he cleanses the govt of any dissenters.And if Trump loses can you honestly see him deciding not to go again in 2028?
Yeah, but how are they going to feel about a person who was second choice to an increasingly senile old man? And Harris is far from popular, and that's without even mentioning those that may have issues with colour or sex. You'd think she might get more black and women votes, but I'm really not convinced (assuming she's the candidate).Be interesting now as Trump is not popular amongst the masses of undecided voters.
why would that matter? if he loses as the post says he has only served 1 termWell, according to the constitution he can't as you're only allowed two terms. But I fully expect him to try and overturn that if he wins along with numerous other checks on presidential power. What's more scary is that I think it may just happen as he cleanses the govt of any dissenters.
Indeed it does. My bad.why would that matter? if he loses as the post says he has only served 1 term
Would you say it’s likely that those who were overtly racist would probably be voting for Trump anyway at this point? Or is there a possibility that Harris ends up mobilising yet more Trump support?
Harris's poll numbers are better than you'd think
The 800,000 jobs claim isn't quite that simple. Most of those weren't new jobs created by Biden.
About 600,000 of those are jobs that were "recovered" in 2021/22 after the layoffs during Covid. That's still around 200,000 newly created jobs which isn't to be sniffed at - but it's certainly way less than the 800,000, or even 15 million claim that Biden made a few months ago.
That’s interestingBut they have a lower age limit of 35. So if that age discrimination is ok why not old age? An 80 year old is far more likely to be incapable due to age than a 25 or 30 year old.
Don't you think it's a bit odd that such a monumental decision was announced to the world via a post on X without Biden announcing it via a press conference or an address to the nation? At first I just assumed it's because his batteries are low and they needed time to get him ready.
The more I look at this though I think there is skullduggery afoot. That latest signature is just too different from previous ones. I saw a lot of memes yesterday saying that Biden will have a shock when he wakes up and finds out that he has withdrawn from the race but I actually think theres something to this.
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Hasn't he got covid? Who knows how ill he is with that.Don't you think it's a bit odd that such a monumental decision was announced to the world via a post on X without Biden announcing it via a press conference or an address to the nation? At first I just assumed it's because his batteries are low and they needed time to get him ready.
The more I look at this though I think there is skullduggery afoot. That latest signature is just too different from previous ones. I saw a lot of memes yesterday saying that Biden will have a shock when he wakes up and finds out that he has withdrawn from the race but I actually think theres something to this.
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Even at the lower end of this estimate, and as someone who is no fan of Biden, he created as many jobs as Trump lost. Purely on the economy he has done far better than his predecessor.
Has the resident chatbot fired up again?mate, are you ok?
Talk to frank.
Hmmm. Ignoring what he descended into now, the Trump presidency saw 200,000 manufacturing jobs lost whereas the Biden one saw 800,000 gained. Pretty significant given how much effort Trump went to in order to get a lot of those industrial states in 2016.
The argument will be at what cost ? Shmmeee is right that Biden has implemented an ambitious industrial strategy and there is no doubt that it created jobs and boosted gdp over the last couple of years. My question would be the physical cost and the inflationary impact of it which some argue has been a bit stickier than elsewhere due to cash pumped into the economy (also some of this inflation was then exported around the world)
Is it better than Trumps big tax breaks for the rich, yes, will it prove to be good use of cash and benefit the country longer term, only time will tell.
Both parties seem to want to borrow, print and spend like monies no object (FP - no need to comment !). US bond yields (borrowing cost/interest) are substantially more than even ours and there is no doubt they will have to start printing again to service interest and government expenditure. What this does for currency debasement/inflation in future remains to be seen
Oh dear.Trump is a great president and would put an end to all the wars currently going on, look at all the shite with North Korea too…..never happened when trump was in charge.
you need to stop being deluded and get into the real world
Yeah but you’re a one note economist who only sees debt as important.
It’s only important if you struggle to service it. I’ve said numerous times if debts used wisely on infrastructure etc and things that benefit a country long term, no problem.
There’s been a Parkinson’s specialist coming to the White House and the press office admitted to seeing Biden.Hasn't he got covid? Who knows how ill he is with that.
Also his statement said 'I will speak to the nation later this week in more detail about my decision'
im just playing with you.
The inflationary aspects of the covid cash (that both Trump and Biden spent BTW) is a fair argument, but then you look at employment, wage growth, manufacturing supply chains. America is in by far the best post covid economic position on the planet. There’s not a country around I’d swap the last four years for, including China.
I can't really understand this line of argument-would it be better if unemployment in a country goes up and GDP goes down?The argument will be at what cost ? Shmmeee is right that Biden has implemented an ambitious industrial strategy and there is no doubt that it created jobs and boosted gdp over the last couple of years. My question would be the physical cost and the inflationary impact of it which some argue has been a bit stickier than elsewhere due to cash pumped into the economy (also some of this inflation was then exported around the world)
Is it better than Trumps big tax breaks for the rich, yes, will it prove to be good use of cash and benefit the country longer term, only time will tell.
Both parties seem to want to borrow, print and spend like monies no object (FP - no need to comment !). US bond yields (borrowing cost/interest) are substantially more than even ours and there is no doubt they will have to start printing again to service interest and government expenditure. What this does for currency debasement/inflation in future remains to be seen
ranting on about "cuckholds" these days like a massive smackheadHas the resident chatbot fired up again?
The banter around these parts ain't what it used to be. People used to put some work into it rather than just quoting from righty incel types they've met on the dark web.ranting on about "cuckholds" these days like a massive smackhead
You and the left are so on the ropes it would almost be funny if it wasn't such a serious subject.
Pathetic cuckold.
A 3rd rate Lozza Fox.The banter around these parts ain't what it used to be. People used to put some work into it rather than just quoting from righty incel types they've met on the dark web.
I can't really understand this line of argument-would it be better if unemployment in a country goes up and GDP goes down?
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