Evo1883
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No the us don't really have a left wing party do they
Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (13 Viewers)
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Otis
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Thank God I am in the other 7.725%.
Evo1883
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America is a predominantly white country , alot of these thick people voted for Biden and Obama
Brighton Sky Blue
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It’s also one where you can incite rebellion to prevent the transfer of power and still be allowed to run
Like the trans issue it’s largely a straw man but even if it were true it’s logically incoherent.
People supposedly vote for Trump and Brexit because they’re called stupid but in this largely imagined reality they’re called stupid FOR voting for Trump and Brexit. What’s the cause and what’s the effect?
Evo1883
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Mate it's not our country , the yanks don't give a shit what we thinkn
Brighton Sky Blue
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I wasn’t under the impression that BSB on SBT can change public opinion in the US to be fair
Yeah so what? You can’t talk about a large group of people without making generalisations and that demographic leans strongly Trump.
Evo1883
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Well no but mate there is the same upset as there was with the last trump win ?
Surely you , an educated person could see him winning weeks ago when all us thickos could
Evo1883
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So you're happy to call them thick when they don't vote how you want them to vote ?
Brighton Sky Blue
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That was my reading of it until very recently when I thought the polls were missing something. Should have stayed with my initial thoughts on that one.
I do think that 2024 Trump is the most dangerous of the three though for a number of reasons and if he tanks the US that has consequences for us here.
Evo1883
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Well it's a good thing our newly elected MPs haven't got a history of trashing trump and he will willingly listen to our concerns and work with us ... oh wait
I haven’t seen anyone calling anyone thick.
Actually that’s not true, Trump called Harris “low IQ”.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He won’t and I know we have no influence over him, but the US imploding is not good news for this country regardless.
Skybluekyle
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Didn’t say they were in my statement, I only mentioned I was left of centre and inferred the Republicans were on the Right.
That being said, the Democrats are more central than others but ideologically speaking and in general terms, I’d put them just to the Left of centre with some factions further Left and some slipping to the Right.
No idea why I have to caveat a simple statement to appease some eager beaver wannabe know it all but here we are haha.
Does t make any difference US economy is the dogs that wags the tail.
Sick Boy
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By our standards, they’re very much a right-wing party too.
That’s forums for you.
In fairness it’s difficult to infer people’s full meaning as posts are generally short.
Evo1883
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Harris has lost an estimated 6% of the black vote from Biden and 3% of the female vote alone
The reason trump is going to win is more than simply uneducated white people is my point but these are the people that are being singled out because it's the easiest demographic to freely criticise without comeback .
Brighton Sky Blue
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What did Trump do to gain support from those groups? Should Harris have pledged to be even more backwards on abortion than him? Tell more racist jokes than him at rallies?
Sick Boy
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It’s hardly being a know it all. I’m just pointing it out that the idea of them being a left wing party is from an American perspective. They’re hardly left of centre for us.
robbiekeane
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Evo1883
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Why what's he going to do to the poor mate
Brighton Sky Blue
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Evo1883
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Biden planned the 2nd largest tax increases since ww2 before stepping away
robbiekeane
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significantly increase income inequality effectively making the poor and middle class poorer
significantly deregulate labour markets
reduce reproductive rights which disproportionally impacts poor and black people and keeps them poor
increase consumer prices through heightened import tariffs
give more power to his rich cronies
just off the top of my head
Otis
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What, 2020? Because that's the last one he won.
robbiekeane
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yes to corporate and to the top earner tax rate
Evo1883
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"On a gross basis, Biden would increase taxes by $4.4 trillion (an average of 1.19 percent of GDP per year) before reducing taxes by nearly $900 billion through expanded tax credits and preferences (an average of -0.25 percent of GDP per year). Together, the tax changes would increase average annual revenue by 0.94 percent of GDP, which would rank as the 9th largest tax increase since 1940 and the 2nd largest outside of wartime."
Brighton Sky Blue
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On the lowest earners?
Sorry wasn’t digging you out. More that adding any extra information comes over that way but it’s hard not to as everyone’s post lacks context.
Evo1883
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Sure but generally agreed they get passed on to workers
Evo1883
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No but these taxes get passed onto workers don't they
