SBAndy
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Mental that a judicial system can be this politicised.
Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (4 Viewers)
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Mental that a judicial system can be this politicised.
chiefdave
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Blows my mind that's its perfectly fine and within the rules to literally be bribing people to vote for a certain candidate.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It is in fact not actually within the rules to do what he did, he just knows nobody will stop him.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I have been wondering if he'd try it.
Nailed on that he'll call those that do traitors, low intelligence and 'bad people'
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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So what do we think they playbook will be?
First, he'll say it was rigged and the result is invalid.
Then he'll go after the actual judge, claiming they're unqualified or crooked in some way
Then he'll go after the state, removing federal help while claiming it's because of the dem's/lib's they're getting nothing.
Brighton Sky Blue
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US scientists, if they want to continue working in science, will end up having to emigrate simply because Trump and Musk eliminated so many jobs in it and cut the funding pretty drastically. Lots more people now competing for a much smaller funding pot.
Would be a good time for the UK to poach a lot of scientific talent.
SkyBlueMatt
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They are already making up some nonsense about 'Voter ID' when if they actually spend 10 seconds on Google. You'll find that it has been a requirement since 2016.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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The difference in salaries would make me surprised if we saw this on any great scale.
If there is one thing the US is good for, it's that in many fields they pay very, very well. The UK is a joke when it comes to paying people what they deserve.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Yes it would require us to actually pay scientists what they deserve. The most I could expect to earn as a process chemist was £50k. Not really a reflection of the skill or technical knowledge it requires.
shmmeee
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It’s all chicken and egg isn’t it? Can’t have high wages cos our economy is shit, can’t improve the economy because we can’t attract talent. Would be a good time to start trying to steal some of that talent.
Brighton Sky Blue
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In general our funding of science research is pitiful which is why Canada and the EU are the likely destinations for these people. Wouldn’t take much to draw them here.
shmmeee
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Not making us Misery Island would be a good start.
Depends on the leadership of this nation.
Having someone pragmatic isn't cutting it for me currently.
Brighton Sky Blue
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True, though didn’t you say Starmer was saving all the good stuff for later?
Probably Japan also, head east young man!
Brighton Sky Blue
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Also true tbf though language would be an issue
Brighton Sky Blue
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shmmeee
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Who knows? I’m not sure there’s a coherent strategy other than over estimate the threat from the right at the moment.
Consistent.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Can't pay high wages cos it'll cause inflation, innit. And that's more important.
By the markets!
RegTheDonk
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ITN News, bloke in Washington mentioned Musk may be stepping out of his role to concentrate on his business interests?
Sky Blue Pete
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Trump just spouts lie after lie after lie after lie
£6trn dollars of investment by all accounts
Mmmmmm one smells bullshit
£6trn dollars of investment by all accounts
Mmmmmm one smells bullshit
Sky Blue Pete
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He just doesn’t get it
He’s 40 years out of date oh well
Mucca Mad Boys
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If Trump’s tariffs are long standing, it might actually turn out to be the biggest Brexit dividend. Particularly if we secure a trade deal.
It puts the UK in a unique position to potentially attract US and EU companies to set up in the UK to avoid the other’s retaliatory tariff regimes.
It’s too soon to say either way, mind you.
It puts the UK in a unique position to potentially attract US and EU companies to set up in the UK to avoid the other’s retaliatory tariff regimes.
It’s too soon to say either way, mind you.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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20% on EU.
10% on UK.
Brexit is very divisive. No one can argue this isn't a benifit though. Hopefully it can start paying off. Looking forward to the meltdown and laughing emojis!
Mucca Mad Boys
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Preface: I was a Remainer and advocate for a 2nd referendum.
Brexit has happened and we’re 5 years into a project that’s readjusting from a 50 year status quo. A few people on here and social media think rejoining is this magic thing that will cure Britain’s ills. It’s not and if it was, why are all the major EU economies suffering from more or less the same issues as us?
Tangent aside and back to the point you made, we’re in a position to take advantage of emerging markets with CPTPP and a USA trade agreement would be significant too so the long term outlook for the UK, from an international trade perspective could be quite positive. There are obviously other issues we need to address as a country, mind you.
The governments economic policy should really look to incentivise foreign investment, manufacturing and offer a corporation tax in line with (or lower) than Ireland so companies base themselves here rather than the EU. Not that I’d expect a Labour government to do these things…
I’m guessing no
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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But the way Trump is you can't guarantee that situation won't change. He may wake up tomorrow and decide to slap tariffs on us as well.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Unlikely because Trump has set the stall out. The new package of duties are half what other 3rd countries charge the US. That suggests that these new rates are an opening gambit; drop your tariffs on us and we’ll follow suit and if you don’t, we’ll ratchet the duty rates higher.
Pragmatically, the new tariffs are far from ideal but UK is in a relatively good position to negotiate lower tariff rates.
The UK and US has a reasonably balanced trade relationship whereas the EU arguably enjoyed a competitive advantage over the US because they slapped heftier tariffs on the US than vice versa. Same with India and Canada.
The bigger geopolitical consideration is of course China who is dominating the west in global manufacturing areas such as; steel/aluminium, ship building, EVs, consumer goods and so on. This is something that needs to be addressed sooner rather than later.
Mucca Mad Boys
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There will be retaliatory tariffs and economic pain for sure. I just doubt they will last as long as Brexit will.
Being “the biggest Brexit dividend” is not currently the most competitive race.