Tommo1993
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If we manage to beat Spain, would you keep him in charge for the World Cup?
You’d take trophies over glamorous football.
As I said
Southgate did fantastic last night and it was for me his best England result as manager .. I hope we win the lot , would be good for the country
I think they will keep him on regardless .. I wouldnt noIf we manage to beat Spain, would you keep him in charge for the World Cup?
You’d take trophies over glamorous football.
They do not need to be mutually exclusive do they? Playing painfully boring football brought us to the edge of elimination…twice.If we manage to beat Spain, would you keep him in charge for the World Cup?
You’d take trophies over glamorous football.
They do not need to be mutually exclusive do they? Playing painfully boring football brought us to the edge of elimination…twice.
I do feel bad when I listen to this though , one thing I can't question Southgate on is his love for his country , even as a player you could tell he loved playing for England
They do not need to be mutually exclusive do they? Playing painfully boring football brought us to the edge of elimination…twice.
Throwing things at the manager and players is never excusable, but the criticism definitely was. It was dreadful, dreadful football that risked our place in the tournament more than once and for no good reason either with the players available.Yeah, he’s a top bloke who has brought a great culture to the England camps again. I do think he might’ve taken some of the frustrations/criticism too personally though. Pundits etc querying tactics or certain players, it’s their job. The stuff in the papers didn’t ever feel overly personal like with various other managers of the past
The idiots who threw pints at him should ashamed but hopefully he appreciates a handful of drunken twats are a tiny tiny minority
Going around in circles here, but the whole problem is saying ‘yeah but we got away with it so it’s fine’. The law of averages will always catch up with consistently poor performances. If Bellingham doesn’t find his piece of brilliance against Slovakia it would have been a very ignominious end compared to the potentially glorious one awaiting on Sunday.We weren’t eliminated
If he wins the Euros I don’t see how England can not offer him a new contract.If we manage to beat Spain, would you keep him in charge for the World Cup?
You’d take trophies over glamorous football.
Yes he has been by far the best Englsnd manager in my lifetime. I think some people don't remember how poor and unsuccessful we have been since 1966.The one thing that I have never understood is the people who have a vitriolic hatred towards Southgate. I was pretty pissed off with him earlier on in the tournament when we were struggling and things looked a bit lost but I'll always love him as a bloke and love what he has done in his time managing England.
I think he will quit anyway.If he wins the Euros I don’t see how England can not offer him a new contract.
Not sure the Germans would that be bothered. It’s one of the more one way rivalries.Throwing things at the manager and players is never excusable, but the criticism definitely was. It was dreadful, dreadful football that risked our place in the tournament more than once and for no good reason either with the players available.
As above though, this is now an irrelevance and one great performance will land us the trophy. To do so on German soil would be one heck of a redemption arc
I probably would do if I was him. Weirdly, it’ll probably be something of a poisoned chalice.I think he will quit anyway.
He got dogs abuse from all quarters, but always maintained a quiet sense of dignity, the guy deserves total respect.The one thing that I have never understood is the people who have a vitriolic hatred towards Southgate. I was pretty pissed off with him earlier on in the tournament when we were struggling and things looked a bit lost but I'll always love him as a bloke and love what he has done in his time managing England.
I think it is a really difficult job and a largely thankless task. Most managers have not been able to cope with the pressure.I probably would do if I was him. Weirdly, it’ll probably be something of a poisoned chalice.
I meant more for Southgate than the GermansNot sure the Germans would that be bothered. It’s one of the more one way rivalries.
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I'm literally saying the same things over and over and over again.. like chatting to my missus
You're rewriting history to suit your bias. You don't like Southgate. That's all it is. Grendel pointed out that you can apply the same revisionist sh*te to any situation e.g. Italia '90 and Euro '96.
I've pointed out in the past you can do it with Robins - snuck into L2 playoffs, lucky with decisions vs. Notts County, won L1 without having to finish it, got to playoffs with low points total.
You say we weren't good to watch under him. I call bullshit*t. If you looked game by game vs. other England managers at tournaments I'm confident it'd be no different, probably better.
He's not a Lad. I genuinely think that's all it is. He's an articulate bloke who looks after himself. As a mass, we like TalkSport; fat drunks who just say things. I hope he wins it and tells us all to f*ck off.
Ironically grendel struggles to give mark robins any credit so it's a bit rich he should be shocked people don't like Southgate ballYou're rewriting history to suit your bias. You don't like Southgate. That's all it is. Grendel pointed out that you can apply the same revisionist sh*te to any situation e.g. Italia '90 and Euro '96.
I've pointed out in the past you can do it with Robins - snuck into L2 playoffs, lucky with decisions vs. Notts County, won L1 without having to finish it, got to playoffs with low points total.
You say we weren't good to watch under him. I call bullshit*t. If you looked game by game vs. other England managers at tournaments I'm confident it'd be no different, probably better.
He's not a Lad. I genuinely think that's all it is. He's an articulate bloke who looks after himself. As a mass, we like TalkSport; fat drunks who just say things. I hope he wins it and tells us all to f*ck off.
Not sure on thatAnd he's already in talks to stay according to media this morning
Who can forget the 0-0 thrillers against Algeria and Nigeria in the World Cup? Or the stoppage time collapse against France in 2004.You're rewriting history to suit your bias. You don't like Southgate. That's all it is. Grendel pointed out that you can apply the same revisionist sh*te to any situation e.g. Italia '90 and Euro '96.
I've pointed out in the past you can do it with Robins - snuck into L2 playoffs, lucky with decisions vs. Notts County, won L1 without having to finish it, got to playoffs with low points total.
You say we weren't good to watch under him. I call bullshit*t. If you looked game by game vs. other England managers at tournaments I'm confident it'd be no different, probably better.
He's not a Lad. I genuinely think that's all it is. He's an articulate bloke who looks after himself. As a mass, we like TalkSport; fat drunks who just say things. I hope he wins it and tells us all to f*ck off.
Who can forget the 0-0 thrillers against Algeria and Nigeria in the World Cup? Or the stoppage time collapse against France in 2004.
2018 being an exception (Germany and Argentina underperforming in the groups), we have earned ‘easy’ sides of the draws because we won the group every time. Even in 2021, Denmark were a Top 10 ranked team in the world.
100% agree, it’s all revisionist and completely subjective saying international football was gone down in calibre. Personally, I disagree with that notion.
It is literally all that anyone ever talks about.One thing that is seemingly being forgotten, is how easy our opponents have been to get this far.
Yeah, that's about it.One thing that is seemingly being forgotten, is how easy our opponents have been to get this far.
I mean at this point who cares, you get behind the team. However, beating a shit Netherlands team in injury time, an average Swiss team on penalties, and also Slovakia in extra time following some underwhelming group games isn't really something I would regard as particularly impressive. We should be winning those games, we've just done it by the skin of our teeth.
Again though, I don't really care. If we somehow beat Spain then it certainly doesn't matter either.
It is literally all that anyone ever talks about.
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