UEFA EURO 2024 (2 Viewers)

[HadjiChippo]

They don’t make defenders like that anymore

 

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[Sky_Blue_Daz]

Clive Tyldesley should spend the rest of the game telling us all the gossip he’s heard over the years

 

[Tommo1993]

Figo now still walks into all of these teams

 

[hill83]

Figo now still walks into all of these teams

Literally

 

[HadjiChippo]

Fullkrug several yards offside and the linesman still waits for the run and shot. Sod that, get your flag up and get the game going again

 

[Frostie]

It might be what they expect but a few refs in the PL did have the courage to stick with their original decision.

True, but incredibly rare & getting even rarer. There were 62 on field reviews in the PL last season. I think there were only 3 where they rejected the VAR & stuck with their original decision.

 

[Ashdown]

VAR complete wank and a massive fiddle once again , disgusting

 

[HadjiChippo]

This offside rule has to change, the decision below is technically right with modern technology but for all intents and purposes this is two players standing side by side. Doesn’t seem in the spirit of the game to rule goals out for a boot size up.

 

[TomRad85]

Football with VAR is almost a different game at times. I find it almost unwatchable tbh.

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[hill83]

This offside rule has to change, the decision below is technically right with modern technology but for all intents and purposes this is two players standing side by side. Doesn’t seem in the spirit of the game to rule goals out for a boot size up.

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Miles off

 

[HadjiChippo]

How are the offsides taking so long with the English VAR team but we’ve seen split second decisions being given like the ones against Lukaku that were razor thin

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Spent 20 minutes listening to that ref bird sat under the stairs waffling on like it’s a fucking science lesson

Hahaha so true, the other night she proudly confirmed that 'this is how we now forensically analyse modern football'

 

[hill83]

Hahaha so true, the other night she proudly confirmed that 'this is how we now forensically analyse modern football'

It’s what the game is all about. Time to nip to the concourse for a bev every time there’s a potential goal.

 

[hill83]

TOE

OUTSIDE THE SILHOUETTE

PROXIMITY IS NO LONGER A FACTOR

Love all this

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Offside should be a clear advantage gained rather than a toe, toenail, hair or Kelly’s erection

 

[hill83]

Fair play to her to be fair. She explains it well but it’s boring as fuck

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

hope its not another Southgate snoozefest tomorrow but then again thats heavily wishful thinking

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Fair play to her to be fair. She explains it well but it’s boring as fuck

I like her. Seems like she doesn’t agree with the laws either, just explains them really well.

The problem with the offside VAR decisions is there’s no real arguing with it. Having said that, am I right in thinking the VAR used in the Euros is different/better than the one did for us against Utd?

 

[hill83]

I like her. Seems like she doesn’t agree with the laws either, just explains them really well.

The problem with the offside VAR decisions is there’s no real arguing with it. Having said that, am I right in thinking the VAR used in the Euros is different/better than the one did for us against Utd?

“Don’t ask me for my opinion or I might get fired” summed her opinion up instantly.

 

[Frostie]

I like her. Seems like she doesn’t agree with the laws either, just explains them really well.

The problem with the offside VAR decisions is there’s no real arguing with it. Having said that, am I right in thinking the VAR used in the Euros is different/better than the one did for us against Utd?

Yes. They are using Semi Automated VAR, i.e. not relying on someone just having a guess when a ball is kicked & where to draw a line whilst using a 50fps camera.

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Yes. They are using Semi Automated VAR, i.e. not relying on someone just having a guess when a ball is kicked & where to draw a line whilst using a 50fps camera.

Brilliant. So we’ve been using shite tech up until this point?

Any way of using it retrospectively? I dunno, just off the top of my head, in like an FA Cup semi-final or something, to see if a decision was correct?

 

[David O'Day]

Brilliant. So we’ve been using shite tech up until this point?

Any way of using it retrospectively? I dunno, just off the top of my head, in like an FA Cup semi-final or something, to see if a decision was correct?

Yes, we have been using the shite lines on a picture, and they don't.

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[Liquid Gold]

It’s shit. Should be offside but the decision was made quickly so fuck it. Don’t mind it if it’s quick

 

[Frostie]

Brilliant. So we’ve been using shite tech up until this point?

Any way of using it retrospectively? I dunno, just off the top of my head, in like an FA Cup semi-final or something, to see if a decision was correct?

Or, you know, just use the same old system that's worked perfectly fine for a hundred years.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Or, you know, just use the same old system that's worked perfectly fine for a hundred years.

One of the subs with a hangover waving a bib around?

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Or, you know, just use the same old system that's worked perfectly fine for a hundred years.

What?!?! But then we’d be arguing about decisions…oh, hang on.

 

[wingy]

One of the subs with a hangover waving a bib around?

Just get British officials in to take 5 time's as long as their counterparts to reach a decision!!

 

[alexccfc99]

I really don't know how we have managed it as we realistically scraped through as group winners and I do not mean to be disrespectful to any of the other sides and based on so far there is nothing to suggest we will even win later

But on paper, England really should be looking at getting to at least another semi final - Time to step the fuck up

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Or, you know, just use the same old system that's worked perfectly fine for a hundred years.

Everyone moaned that assistants made mistakes so we found a system to make the decisions and now everyone moans that it as too close to give offside
Just bananas

 

[alexccfc99]

Everyone moaned that assistants made mistakes so we found a system to make the decisions and now everyone moans that it as too close to give offside
Just bananas

I have said it all along my problem isn't with VAR it is with the inept people using it as well as the rules introduced - For clear and obvious errors no one would have an issue with it, for those who watched the L2 play off final last month, where a Crewe player made the most obvious dive and actually managed to dupe the referee into awarding a penalty, VAR stepped in and corrected it and that was great because if Crewe had been given that penalty it would have been an absolute travesty! If VAR was used like that then you literally cannot argue against it

It's when you start judging people offside for the length of a gnats chaff or with parts of the body you can't even score with when you start to get your problems - That isn't VAR's fault it's down to the lawmakers

Then again, is it any wonder we are here yet again discussing how shit VAR is following a game English officials have been in charge of it? For a major country in the game and the founding fathers of football our officials are embarrassingly shite and not fit for purpose, they must be a complete laughing stock

 

[Otis]

I have said it all along my problem isn't with VAR it is with the inept people using it as well as the rules introduced - For clear and obvious errors no one would have an issue with it, for those who watched the L2 play off final last month, where a Crewe player made the most obvious dive and actually managed to dupe the referee into awarding a penalty, VAR stepped in and corrected it and that was great because if Crewe had been given that penalty it would have been an absolute travesty! If VAR was used like that then you literally cannot argue against it

It's when you start judging people offside for the length of a gnats chaff or with parts of the body you can't even score with when you start to get your problems - That isn't VAR's fault it's down to the lawmakers

Then again, is it any wonder we are here yet again discussing how shit VAR is following a game English officials have been in charge of it? For a major country in the game and the founding fathers of football our officials are embarrassingly shite and not fit for purpose, they must be a complete laughing stock

Yup, agree.

Nothing wrong with the VAR system at all, if they used it properly.

When it was brought in, it wasn't brought in to see if a toenail stuck out

If they used it for the clear and obvious only, if would work so much better.

They need to still be quicker with it though. Nothing should be taking two mins to view.

I am glad the offside rule is changing. That will really help.

They need to change the ridiculous handball laws too. First and foremost in the thinking has to be whether or not it was accidental and to stop saying an arm isn't in a natural position when it clearly is

VAR can work. It's just not working at the moment and is a bit of a disaster, because of the way they implement and interpret things.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I have said it all along my problem isn't with VAR it is with the inept people using it as well as the rules introduced - For clear and obvious errors no one would have an issue with it, for those who watched the L2 play off final last month, where a Crewe player made the most obvious dive and actually managed to dupe the referee into awarding a penalty, VAR stepped in and corrected it and that was great because if Crewe had been given that penalty it would have been an absolute travesty! If VAR was used like that then you literally cannot argue against it

It's when you start judging people offside for the length of a gnats chaff or with parts of the body you can't even score with when you start to get your problems - That isn't VAR's fault it's down to the lawmakers

Then again, is it any wonder we are here yet again discussing how shit VAR is following a game English officials have been in charge of it? For a major country in the game and the founding fathers of football our officials are embarrassingly shite and not fit for purpose, they must be a complete laughing stock

Oliver was spectacular yesterday based on all metrics

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yup, agree.

Nothing wrong with the VAR system at all, if they used it properly.

When it was brought in, it wasn't brought in to see if a toenail stuck out

If they used it for the clear and obvious only, if would work so much better.

They need to still be quicker with it though. Nothing should be taking two mins to view.

I am glad the offside rule is changing. That will really help.

They need to change the ridiculous handball laws too. First and foremost in the thinking has to be whether or not it was accidental and to stop saying an arm isn't in a natural position when it clearly is

VAR can work. It's just not working at the moment and is a bit of a disaster, because of the way they implement and interpret things.

Did you not see the defender lift his arm to attempt to stop the cross
I’ll ask another, what happens if that’s not given in the studio and shearer and lineker and Twitter
I think exactly the same just opposite

 

[Otis]

Did you not see the defender lift his arm to attempt to stop the cross
I’ll ask another, what happens if that’s not given in the studio and shearer and lineker and Twitter
I think exactly the same just opposite

Only just saw the Anderson one for Denmark and thought it was very, very harsh

Under the current rules, obviously a pen. But it shouldn't be. I really don't see that he was trying to make himself bigger in order to stop the cross.

Seemed very harsh.

 

[Frostie]

I have said it all along my problem isn't with VAR it is with the inept people using it as well as the rules introduced - For clear and obvious errors no one would have an issue with it, for those who watched the L2 play off final last month, where a Crewe player made the most obvious dive and actually managed to dupe the referee into awarding a penalty, VAR stepped in and corrected it and that was great because if Crewe had been given that penalty it would have been an absolute travesty! If VAR was used like that then you literally cannot argue against it

We didn't have to completely destroy the whole spirit of the game for that though

In the L2 Playoff, it was once again a ref being condemned for a wrong decision, not a single mention of a player intentionally cheating to con him. That should be where the focus is, with strict punishments for cheating dealt retrospectively. Attitudes would then change. Tackle the problem not the symptom.

Then again, is it any wonder we are here yet again discussing how shit VAR is following a game English officials have been in charge of it? For a major country in the game and the founding fathers of football our officials are embarrassingly shite and not fit for purpose, they must be a complete laughing stock

UEFA have been impressed with both Oliver & Taylor during the Euros, hence them still getting the big games. They came out in praise of Taylor's decision to disallow the Dutch goal v France too yet he was widely chastised on here for it. The VAR though, yes, took too long to verify Taylor as correct but other than that they are working within the parameters set. In fact, they'd prefer we were even stricter with it. See the Georgia penalty vs Portugal, there's no way an English official gives that decision.