David O'Day
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There's quite a bit of fighting and the nature of these things is the invaders will likely see early gains until things become more bogged down
USSR invades Ukraine. (23 Viewers)
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There's quite a bit of fighting and the nature of these things is the invaders will likely see early gains until things become more bogged down
David O'Day
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In news that will please grenners and his tiny mind Zarah Sultana may lose the Labour whip
tisza
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Looks like they've been caught off guard by the types of attack particularly on where the Russians are striking in the west of the country.
We're seeing plenty of coverage here of attack helicopters operating at low levels.
Reports here of Russian ground troops saying they believed they were actually going to be facing NATO forces in Ukraine. Apparently info coming from ethnic Hungarian areas in Ukraine.
Ian1779
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Looks like she’s OK now having withdrawn her name.
David O'Day
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Sensible move and 8 or the other 10 should as well
Otis
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Yeah, but I am not a royalist either..To be fair we've had Germans,Greeks ,Dutch and others living in Buckingham palace
stay_up_skyblues
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Inspiring stuff from Biden
Brighton Sky Blue
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Is Abramovich going to come into any difficulty?
Ian1779
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They all have I think.
Grendel
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Oh dear
Welsh Labour MP removes name from Stop the War letter after threat of losing whip
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David O'Day
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Apart from the 2 who are no longer in the party
SkyBlue_Bear83
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So what are the realistic outcomes here?
Either ww3 Or let Russia conquer ukraine and hope they stop after ukraine?
Either ww3 Or let Russia conquer ukraine and hope they stop after ukraine?
David O'Day
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Destroy the Russian economy and supply the Ukraine with enough aid so they can keep fighting long enough that it gets so bad in Russia Putin loses power.
clint van damme
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Desperate
Yeah, just reading that. We’re pushing for Russia to be taken off Swift but Germany and I think Italy aren’t keen. This needs to happen as does the asset freeze on anyone with connections with Putin (still not clear if this is happening here or to what level ?!). Things like Swift and reducing gas purchases will hurt Russia over time but freezing assets of Putins cronies and stopping them from travel etc will deliver a direct visible message
David O'Day
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the Czech president who was very, very pro Putin has just done an amazing 180 on him
David O'Day
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Put the weirdo on ignore as he brings nothing to anything. Starve him of the attention he seeks
Ian1779
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US not supporting the removal of Russia from SWIFT either.
skybluetony176
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Has Boris returned the £160K he took from Putins finance ministers wife for a game of tennis. This isn’t a rabbit hole you want to go down because the weight of numbers isn’t in your favour.
Grendel
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Exactly of course the exact thing Mr Putin wants - silent dissenters
David O'Day
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US sending more troops to Europe to defend NATO allies should put to bed the "No one will do anything if Putin attacks a NATO country" nonsense. Johnson also confirm we would act as well.
skybluetony176
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Disappointing. Now is not the time for half measure’s.
I imagine what he really wants is people who will “let them get on with it”, no?
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Will that work? Seems putin doesn't care about sanctions?
What if Putin just come and says stop aiding ukraine and stop crippling us or we will declare war on you.
Does everyone back down then to prevent World War 3?
Yeah, was listening to Biden but got the impression it’s not his decision not to implement it yet (that’s what it sounded like after he got a question on it anyway). I think this might still happen soon though just hasn’t been finalised
Good grief.
Quick tell us about some obscure Labour policy from 30 years ago that validates Putin's invasion
tisza
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Like Hungary 1956 Czech public memories of 1968 are still very emotive. But won't be surprised if it is the Czech and Hungarian leaders who start the calls for rebuilding relationships etc when it is politically less risky to do so. Both have been courting a lot of Russian & Chinese Govt investment over past 12-18 months.
skybluetony176
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Boriski lads long history of cosying up to Putins inner circle
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Jamesimus
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It will take Russian military crossing into a neighbouring NATO country for any of the block to intervene in terms of fighting. Can't personally see that happening, however, I wouldn't make any bets on that...
fernandopartridge
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The only patriotism Tories have is to £ notes, don't give a fuck about the UK or its people.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Which goes to my first question that the options look like ww3 or let ukraine be conquered by Russia.
Is there any other ways out of this?
David O'Day
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It's not that he cares or not about sanctions. It's more that conditions for the people in Russia including those close to him become so bad Putins power slips.
There will be no WW3 as we won't directly fight in the Ukraine and Putin won't attack a NATO country as that triggers actual conventional war which he can't win.
Nuclear weapons are a nonsense as well as no one is going use them knowing they'll destroy their own country as well.