Ccfcisparks
Well-Known Member
The guts the Ukrainian President has is admirable. If we had a leader half as honourable as him, we would be in good stead as a country.
Hasn’t China set up a system to rival SWIFT already?
Depressingly even on a thread like this the usual political point scoring has to happen.
Can we somehow force the Germans and Italy into taking action?
It's a shame. Hitler would have sorted the Russians out for sure.About 80 years too late for that my friend
Military experts seem to think the Russians are actually really ropey as a fighting force and the US et al. would wipe the floor with them
you didn't read it did you did you, it's a piece on the poor tactics from the first 2 days. he clearly makes no comments on what the final outcome will be. he also talks about how only a part of 150k troops in the area have been used and it is not him that says the us would wipe the floor with the russians currently engagedTell me the last time the US has wiped the floor with anybody in battle ?
I've worked with them , I know how they operate , wasn't impressed myself
1.what percentage of the 150k forces putin has used are conscripts ?
2.The Russian military is 900,000 large so we are still 750k short of its force strength .
3. It has upto 2 million reserve soldiers it can call upon
4. Shouldnt Dr Martin already know this ?
5. How long does Dr Martin think it takes to invade and take over a country 2.5 times larger than the UK ?
you didn't read it did you did you, it's a piece on the poor tactics from the first 2 days. he clearly makes no comments on what the final outcome will be. he also talks about how only a part of 150k troops in the area have been used and it is not him that says the us would wipe the floor with the russians currently engaged
I think this forum is very reflective of UK thinking/politics. A mix of right wing and the liberal perspectives.My whole point is there isn’t any arguments that are going to be won on this forum politically as it’s full of people whose views are not representative of the wider public and most who have a view of said wider public have been shouted down and left the debate a long time ago
As for being rude you were engaging pleasantly with O day an Ira worshiping freak whose the most insulting person on the whole forum
But you don't just join nato overnight do you?Which given what has just happened to Ukraine would have me reaching for the phone to get a membership card pronto.
It shows he won't attack NATO countries. So be a NATO country and you're safe.
He definitely wants to go down in the history books as some kind of super hero.Ukraine are doing alright by all accounts, would be quality if they manage to fend Russia off.
I can't work out though whether this is part of a bigger picture, or Putin's last stand to get in the history books. Very odd times.
As things are going he is as dangerous as Adolf Hitler.He definitely wants to go down in the history books as some kind of super hero.
He has been absolutely untouchable hasn't he. He can even just waltz people into our own country in order to have people wiped out. He is a megalomaniac who believes no-one can stop him.
Yes it would be fantastic. I think the pictures coming out of Ukraine of women in tears and young children saying goodbye to their fathers who are going off to shoot a rifle for the first time is extremely powerful . We all feel this. We all feel their fears and anger. I hope there are a few flags and gestures at the CBS today. Perhaps the players might have a message or two underneath their shirts to reveal when we score !As a sidenote, not sure what will actually happen, but wouldn't it be great to see a load of Ukrainian flags at the EFL Cup final tomorrow at Wembley. Chelsea and Liverpool fans alike.
Anyone know what Chelsea fans are thinking right now, what with Abramovitch being a close cronie of Putin's?
My guess is many will just put up the blinkers over it and in the grand scheme it doesn't mean that much does it, but I think it would be a wonderful gesture to see both Liverpool AND Chelsea fans, flying the Ukrainian flag tomorrow and have Wembley turn yellow and blue for the day.
now comment on the other nonsense you spouted and admit it was simply a thread on poor military tactics and poor logistics. you keep twatting on about a straw man hereIt is him View attachment 23964
Not one for underestimating such a power myself , Ukraine have a fairly large military by modern standards but are numerically outnumbered upto 15 x if we include reserve forces .
Russia as an invading force will know they will take casualties surely ? Putin isn't that thick
Still can’t believe it really. The nuclear deterrent is what has allowed Putin to throw as much as he wants at a country because it’s not signed the relevant piece of paper.
I think the French are sending millions of dollars worth of equipment.Even worse that that, Ukraine were encouraged/agreed to give up their nuclear deterrent in the 90’s. This has left left them further exposed although ‘Putin the nutter’ wasn’t around then.
I understand that we and NATO can’t get involved militarily as it could escalate to WW3 but we should be doing everything in our collective powers to arm Ukraine to help them defend themselves (crazy in a way as there is not a huge difference between that and us getting directly involved).
As I think SBD said, Putins ‘fear’ of having NATO on his doorstep can’t ring true as his actions have just accelerated more NATO troops on his border than ever before and any country not in NATO probably seriously considering joining to help defend themselves against this utter madman
Another Boris failure.
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Below is a current map of all Aeroflot aircraft over Europe. Take a wild guess which European country is still leading the way in letting them use their airspace.
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