Good grief, you're missing the point (/can't read) as well.
So the US you finally admit are as evil as all other super powers and do not in reality give a fuck about Ukraine.
Wow we get there at last.
Why? The OP was making a clear comparison between the behaviour of US an Russian soldiers. Again, only one poster thinks one group is at a picnic. If you want to point that out to anyone it’s them. Your direction is misdirection.
Your link is interesting though as a comparison, at least to events in Iraq and Afghanistan for that matter. Firstly these were isolated incidents, secondly they didn’t go unpunished. Compare that to the behaviour of Russian soldiers where firstly it’s clearly not isolated incidents and secondly they will go unpunished.
Fucking hell, I was half expecting it to be described as an “isolated incident”.Why? The OP was making a clear comparison between the behaviour of US an Russian soldiers. Again, only one poster thinks one group is at a picnic. If you want to point that out to anyone it’s them. Your direction is misdirection.
Your link is interesting though as a comparison, at least to events in Iraq and Afghanistan for that matter. Firstly these were isolated incidents, secondly they didn’t go unpunished. Compare that to the behaviour of Russian soldiers where firstly it’s clearly not isolated incidents and secondly they will go unpunished.
It was terrible and if it was happening in 2024 people wouldn't be looking the other way.I think any country that indulged in this is as evil as any regime but as they adopt Western values we look the other way
Was My Lai just one of many massacres in Vietnam War?
US atrocities were far greater in the Vietnam War than is normally acknowledged, writes investigative journalist Nick Tursewww.bbc.co.uk
If your gran had balls would she be your grandad.So you think the US are a despotic brutal regime?
Good grief, you're missing the point (/can't read) as well.
I said incidents not incident. Big difference. Big difference.Fucking hell, I was half expecting it to be described as an “isolated incident”.
It was terrible and if it was happening in 2024 people wouldn't be looking the other way.
Your bringing up something from 56 years ago, if everything is just based on things that happened in the past there's not going to be many countries coming out looking good.
Oh I am really not.
You have admitted that you need a good guy and a bad guy in a conflict.
You are incapable of debate. How can anyone read something by someone who admits they have no concept of history, post dumb gifs all day and has zero comprehension as to what this war really is.
What is interesting now though is it seems its mostly you and Tony - a sad troll who spends his day posting off topic from Wiki and pretending he has knowledge on the subject - who still are holding firm.
Surely we need another twitter link from Kyiv?
I said incidents not incident. Big difference. Big difference.
Do you at least accept that rape is a norm for Russia soldiers?
It’s what you would describe as a picnic in Ukraine.Was My Lai just one of many massacres in Vietnam War?
US atrocities were far greater in the Vietnam War than is normally acknowledged, writes investigative journalist Nick Tursewww.bbc.co.uk
Ironically, it's the Russian way - whataboutism. After the Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster, Russian media talked about Three Mile Island. It's their MO, and this is being used by some on this threadHonestly the fucking state of this thread.
'You can't criticise Russia as you haven't condemned some totally unrelated acts from 60 years ago'.
Fucking pathetic stuff.
Honestly the fucking state of this thread.
'You can't criticise Russia as you haven't condemned some totally unrelated acts from 60 years ago'.
Fucking pathetic stuff.
Well
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Unfortunately it’s been a tactic of war for centuries for countries across the globe.I said incidents not incident. Big difference. Big difference.
Do you at least accept that rape is a norm for Russia soldiers?
What do you think you're doing other than proving my point?
You cannot be this stupid surely?
Really the dumb act is not working on here anymore.
Still no US lives being lost now in Ukraine so brilliant strategy - you must be delighted.
Of course you can and should criticise Russia. However, it is true the US has and is doing things at least equally as bad. Doesn't make what Russia is doing acceptable though.Honestly the fucking state of this thread.
'You can't criticise Russia as you haven't condemned some totally unrelated acts from 60 years ago'.
Fucking pathetic stuff.
Unfortunately, pointing it out means you're pro-Putin on here.Of course you can and should criticise Russia. However, it is true the US has and is doing things at least equally as bad. Doesn't make what Russia is doing acceptable though.
You've just described the rape and murder of innocent women and kids as a 'picnic'.
I think you have issues.
Good luck.
Of course you can and should criticise Russia. However, it is true the US has and is doing things at least equally as bad. Doesn't make what Russia is doing acceptable though.
That's literally the point people are making!!
Yeah but what about that Genghis Khan and the Mongol Empire.That's literally the point people are making!!
Grendel and Sick Boy are basically having an imaginary argument against something nobody has said.
Unfortunately, pointing it out means you're pro US atrocities in the Gulf or Vietnam on here.
As I've said, unfortunately, it's a disgusting tactic that's not uncommon in war; it's not something that's isolated to Russia.Corrected for you.
Also…
Do you accept that standard practice of Russian soldiers is to rape and torture Ukrainian soldiers and civilians in Ukraine?
Of course you can and should criticise Russia. However, it is true the US has and is doing things at least equally as bad. Doesn't make what Russia is doing acceptable though.
How many civilians were killed during the Iraq invasion? 300,000?Hmmm, US does some bad shit but not sure about doing things ‘at least equally as bad’ as Russia
People do realise that Russia is run by a dictator who basically can’t be voted out whatever he decides to do ? He’s sent an estimated 500k of his own citizens to their slaughter and shows no sign of stopping. For what ?
Social media has got a lot to answer for
You seem very reluctant to acknowledge that it’s standard practice by Russia in Ukraine.Unfortunately it’s been a tactic of war for centuries for countries across the globe.
Err, I've already addressed it.You seem very reluctant to acknowledge that it’s standard practice by Russia in Ukraine.
How many civilians were killed during the Iraq invasion? 300,000?
I don't disagree and think it's disgusting and would like the killing to end.Agreed. It’s outrageous. But a PM or Presidents primary job is to protect their own citizens and as I said, Putin has sent upto 500k to their deaths in two years and it will carry on and there’s nothing anyone can do about it
Figures vary, most say around 100,000. Large numbers were killed in civil conflicts and as the result of the actions of insurgents.How many civilians were killed during the Iraq invasion? 300,000?
I'll go with this, thanks - Iraqi Civilians | Costs of War - the whole thing was disgusting and shows what a farce it is with certain countries trying to take the moral high ground.Figures vary, most say around 100,000. Large numbers were killed in civil conflicts and as the result of the actions of insurgents.
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