USSR invades Ukraine. (6 Viewers)

duffer · Mar 6, 2022

PVA said:
Yeah it's coming up to 'mud season'

That convoy is going very far any time soon, which I think explains why Ukraine haven't bombed it - they've got more pressing issues for their air force to deal with

You'd have to imagine it's reasonably well defended, but even if they're not being picked off on an occasional basis it's got to impact morale and efficiency.

Not much food, not much water, always cold and nowhere comfortable to sleep. And most of all, not moving forward. That's going to wear down even dedicated soldiers, let alone teenage conscripts.

You have to wonder what would happen if Ukraine could somehow put together an attacking threat.

All that said, it's still hard to see Russia losing this in a direct military sense.

Sick Boy · Mar 6, 2022

Sky Blue Pete said:
Most of us are from Islington

I used to go out with a girl from Muswell Hill, I never felt more out of place, I’m worried I’m a potential Tory voter in the making now

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Mar 6, 2022

PVA said:
Hopefully they can make this happen

I was wondering if planes etc could be reliveried to be Ukranian and sent to help. You know Putin would play this as Western military involvement and an act of war.

Necessary to allow Ukrainians the best chance though.

Flying Fokker · Mar 6, 2022

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I was wondering if planes etc could be reliveried to be Ukranian and sent to help. You know Putin would play this as Western military involvement and an act of war.

Necessary to allow Ukrainians the best chance though.

There was talk of this a few days ago. At the time it was thought that Turkey gifted planes to Ukraine. They were all fighters. It was suggested that the Ukraine pilots would need a few days to gen up on the controls etc..

Flying Fokker · Mar 6, 2022

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Mar 6, 2022

eastwoodsdustman said:
You’re 100% right. People are moaning about Boris’s and Britains response but we have led the way in support for Ukraine to see off the Russain invasion and Russia well know this.
Compare Boris’s actions to those of Macron,the wannabe leader of Europe, and to the initial silence in the main from the Germans and like it or not, Boris has shown Europe the way on supporting Ukraine.
Ive got my Tinfoil hat at the ready for the whatabouttery onslaught.

I think a distinction needs to be made between words and actions. Boris is very good at telling people he's going to do stuff, then not doing it. They deliberately held back when the sanctions are going to be introduced, almost certainly to allow the individuals involved to get their money and assets out.

Grendel · Mar 6, 2022

PVA said:
Hahaha windmilling again.

I note you ignored my previous posts about the Russian army by the way, was that guy too qualified for you?

What about the BBC reporting only two major cities have fallen, I thought you said a large portion had?

The major port cities have gone crimea is already occupied and the others in the east surrounded

Ian1779 · Mar 6, 2022

Grendel said:
this won’t go well. You will soon be accused of being a Putin sympathiser and dragged off to SBT HQ somewhere in Islington for a good dose of middle class liberal thinking (but you’ll be told it’s socialism)

Not sure you can confuse anything Starmer does with socialism

duffer · Mar 6, 2022

eastwoodsdustman said:
You’re 100% right. People are moaning about Boris’s and Britains response but we have led the way in support for Ukraine to see off the Russain invasion and Russia well know this.
Compare Boris’s actions to those of Macron,the wannabe leader of Europe, and to the initial silence in the main from the Germans and like it or not, Boris has shown Europe the way on supporting Ukraine.
Ive got my Tinfoil hat at the ready for the whatabouttery onslaught.

You don't need a tinfoil hat mate. We've done some good things without doubt, but it's obvious we're miles behind the EU in applying sanctions.

We're also not exactly making it easy for refugees from the conflict to come here.

You can debate the reasons why that might be, but the facts themselves don't seem to be beyond dispute.

skybluetony176 · Mar 6, 2022

SIR ERNIE said:
Whether it's the Mail or the Observer is irrelevant. PH is one of very few journalists who recognises the role the West have played in creating the conditions for this invasion.

Creating the conditions? We’re supposed to be free, sovereign and democratic nations free to self determine our direction. If we’re dancing to Putins tune we are none of those things.

Flying Fokker · Mar 6, 2022

Ukraine's army is using a nimble 'game-changing' drone called The Punisher that has completed scores of successful missions against the Russians, say reports

Developed by Ukrainian veterans, say reports, the light drones, invisible to radar, carries a 3kg of explosives to strike the Russian forces.

uk.yahoo.com

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 6, 2022

duffer said:
I'm afraid I've got to disagree with you there, here's the dictionary definition of 'nuance':

a subtle difference in or shade of meaning, expression, or sound.

Maybe it's a bit too 'subtle' a word for you, but it definitely has meaning.

" A shade of meaning "

" What's a subtle difference in a shade of sound then ?
What is is then , is a pretentious term for " subtle difference"

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 6, 2022

Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s all words from johnson and no substance

Lots of party substance I should think.

Grendel · Mar 6, 2022

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
" A shade of meaning "
" What's a subtle difference in a shade of sound then ?

That was a very subtle nuance right there

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Mar 6, 2022

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
" A shade of meaning "
" What's a subtle difference in a shade of sound then ?

I think you missed the fact there was an OR in the definition.

A subtle difference OR shade

Flying Fokker · Mar 6, 2022

The narrative coming from Russia. Accusing the Ukranianians of using the citizens of Maripol as human shields amongst the usual rhetoric about ridding the country of Nazis.
TASS article relating to:
1) Russia’s special operation to be suspended if Kiev fulfills Moscow’s demands — Kremlin - Russian Politics & Diplomacy - TASS

2) Meeting about Chernobylazka and another power station. Putin agrees to IAEA-Russia-Ukraine meeting by video link or in third country — Kremlin - Russian Politics & Diplomacy - TASS

3) Neo-Nazis Ukrainian crisis was sparked by West’s disregard for neo-Nazis’ crimes — envoy to UN - Russian Politics & Diplomacy - TASS

85% of Serbians will always support Russia whatever may happen - President Vucic - World - TASS

Terry Gibson's perm · Mar 6, 2022

Flying Fokker said:
View attachment 24075

Are the buttons by Putins left hand to turn the electricity on in the seats if somebody disagrees

Grendel · Mar 6, 2022

M and S are participating in the Ukraine appeal - a easy way to support when shopping

duffer · Mar 6, 2022

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
" A shade of meaning "
" What's a subtle difference in a shade of sound then ?
What is is then , is a pretentious term for " subtle difference"

That is such a weird opinion. I'm sorry if the English language upsets you, but you know what, there are lots of different words that mean similar things - who made you the dictionary police?

Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it pretentious. I could just as well say you're being pretentious by saying 'subtle' instead of 'small' or 'minor', but it would be just as daft.

FFS man, there's enough stuff to discuss here without getting upset about an actual word that has a perfectly clear meaning - get over yourself.

duffer · Mar 6, 2022

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I think you missed the fact there was an OR in the definition.

A subtle difference OR shade

I was almost too polite to point out the obvious typos in his post, or the excessive use of emojis to try to make a point too, which always feels a bit childish to me.

In truth though, who really cares about someone's writing style or spelling on a football forum. Just a bit odd, frankly, so I'll move on...

Otis · Mar 6, 2022

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Are the buttons by Putins left hand to turn the electricity on in the seats if somebody disagrees

We are safe. The button is at the other end of the table and there is only a bus once a month.

duffer · Mar 6, 2022

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Are the buttons by Putins left hand to turn the electricity on in the seats if somebody disagrees

Good Lord no, that would be uncivilised.

It tips them silently into the shark infested pool beneath.

duffer · Mar 6, 2022

My inner child is trying to make me insert the word 'nuance' into every posting from now on. Must resist.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 6, 2022

duffer said:
That is such a weird opinion. I'm sorry if the English language upsets you, but you know what, there are lots of different words that mean similar things - who made you the dictionary police?

Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it pretentious. I could just as well say you're being pretentious by saying 'subtle' instead of 'small' or 'minor', but it would be just as daft.

FFS man, there's enough stuff to discuss here without getting upset about an actual word that has a perfectly clear meaning - get over yourself.

You're banging on a lot over a word that has no meaning . You used it to have a go at another member on here, and yet you don't know what it means. The definition you posted has no meaning .

Grendel · Mar 6, 2022

duffer said:
My inner child is trying to make me insert the word 'nuance' into every posting from now on. Must resist.

well here’s not much of a nuance for you and it’s not subtle - would you trust a Marxist like Starmer who was anti nato now pro nato and was opposed to every single war including Afghanistan

Keir Starmer’s cynical embrace of Nato is a sad sight indeed | Ukraine | The Guardian

The Labour leader accused us of backing Putin by opposing war in Ukraine. He knows he’s wrong, says Lindsey German, convenor of the Stop the War coalition

amp.theguardian.com

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 6, 2022

duffer said:
My inner child is trying to make me insert the word 'nuance' into every posting from now on. Must resist.

Feel free. It means anything you want it to mean.

Grendel · Mar 6, 2022

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
You're banging on a lot over a word that has no meaning . You used it to have a go at another member on here, and yet you don't know what it means. The definition you posted has no meaning .

he is out of his depth unfortunately

stay_up_skyblues · Mar 6, 2022

duffer said:
My inner child is trying to make me insert the word 'nuance' into every posting from now on. Must resist.

My brother has just entered into a polyamorous with three women. My kids now have nuance.

PVA · Mar 6, 2022

These images and stories of fleeing citizens being shelled in so called green corridors are utterly horrendous.

Just abhorrent from Putin.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 6, 2022

Apologies if this has already been discussed but the BBC reporting that

Poland might be sending planes to Ukraine. Now I'm not sure whether that means they'll take off from Polish airfield with Ukrainian pilots but I'm assuming that would be the case. Apparently they are Migs which the Ukrainian pilots are familiar with . The planes given by Poland will be replaced by aircraft from the US.

I'm sure Putin won't be happy with that. That surely might escalate the situation somewhat if it's really true.

Grendel · Mar 6, 2022

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Apologies if this has already been discussed but the BBC reporting that

Poland might be sending planes to Ukraine. Now I'm not sure whether that means they'll take off from Polish airfield with Ukrainian pilots but I'm assuming that would be the case. Apparently they are Migs which the Ukrainian pilots are familiar with . The planes given by Poland will be replaced by aircraft from the US.

I'm sure Putin won't be happy with that. That surely might escalate the situation somewhat if it's really true.

If true that’s a world war starting

PVA · Mar 6, 2022

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Apologies if this has already been discussed but the BBC reporting that

Poland might be sending planes to Ukraine. Now I'm not sure whether that means they'll take off from Polish airfield with Ukrainian pilots but I'm assuming that would be the case. Apparently they are Migs which the Ukrainian pilots are familiar with . The planes given by Poland will be replaced by aircraft from the US.

I'm sure Putin won't be happy with that. That surely might escalate the situation somewhat if it's really true.

They've already received lots of arms from various countries, so I'm not sure it's much different.

The anti tank weapons they've received have annihilated hundreds and hundreds, probably thousands, of vehicles already.

stupot07 · Mar 6, 2022

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Apologies if this has already been discussed but the BBC reporting that

Poland might be sending planes to Ukraine. Now I'm not sure whether that means they'll take off from Polish airfield with Ukrainian pilots but I'm assuming that would be the case. Apparently they are Migs which the Ukrainian pilots are familiar with . The planes given by Poland will be replaced by aircraft from the US.

I'm sure Putin won't be happy with that. That surely might escalate the situation somewhat if it's really true.

Yes, it would be Ukrainian pilots flying through Polish planes.

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Mar 6, 2022

duffer said:
My inner child is trying to make me insert the word 'nuance' into every posting from now on. Must resist.

Well, you failed with that post

stupot07 · Mar 6, 2022

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