Grendel
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oh How David how’s it going out there?
Ignore the weirdo. Let him pretend to his handful of halfwits
Yup, far from great is it. Doesn't make what Russia are doing any less horrific though does it.
There does seem to be a problem out in those parts (Poland too) with ultra far right Nazi types.
Maybe by Mrs Chamberlain, but that's about all! He fought a pathetic war which we were losing very meekly. We were disorganised, indecisive and there was an attitude of hoping that any "big" fighting could be avoided and we could sort all this mess out peacefully over a nice cup of tea, hence Leo Amery's very famous speech in the Norway Debate that was quoted by David Davies to Johnson a few weeks ago (who pretended to not know where it was from), ending: "You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go.":no it’s not a surprise and rather than juvenile insults like appeasement and Neville chamberlain (who wasn’t an appeaser and generally is acknowledged as helping the war effort) which seems to be very prevalent on here the US administration needs to get its head out of its arse and negotiate with Putin and his Kremlin sidekick a way out before this escalates - and it will.
Putin will never back down and the Wests comments are borderline absurd. Cheerleading ukraines for bravery. One clown the other day said something like “even if every Ukrainian dies Russia wikk have lost this war” - ok
Not sure it's that big a thing. Assume any transport inside Ukraine is being done by Ukrainians. Not going to attack transports inside NATO countries.Would imagine the hand over weapons is happening outside Ukrainian borders.Uh oh
Anyone who thinks Chamberlain is misunderstood by history, and who would like a chilling reminder of parallels between Russia now and Hitler's Germany and the consequences of Western inaction, I would highly recommend watching this:
In particular, Lord Boothby (a Conservative) at 17:20 and 32:30 for J.R. Colville, Chamberlain's Private Secretary, on what Chamberlain thought-he wanted to just drop leaflets, essentially.
Why?THANKFULLY ... Russia today are not as powerful as Germany back then (military size ).. if the whole of nato descended onto Russia it would be over quite fast unless the Chinese intervened on russias side which I doubt
I think China has so much money tied up around the world they wouldn't want to risk it allWhy?
If you mean why is Russian military not as good as German then, it's because they built up a huge superiority in both quality of arms and military doctrine, fine tuned in the Spanish Civil War, that gave them a huge edge. They also had loads more tanks and monoplane fighters. Imagine sending a biplane up to stop them! Nowadays modern armies are more evenly matched.Why?
No evo got itIf you mean why is Russian military not as good as German then, it's because they built up a huge superiority in both quality of arms and military doctrine, fine tuned in the Spanish Civil War, that gave them a huge edge. They also had loads more tanks and monoplane fighters. Imagine sending a biplane up to stop them! Nowadays modern armies are more evenly matched.
Russia, China and USA haven't stopped playing games with other countries ( even supposed allies) for years. Whether it be through power of investment, political manipulation, militarily or other means.
The answer of course is a shared will or mutually assured flourishing. The will was there after the Second World War and the flourishing sort of worked until the euro debacle.Russia, China and USA haven't stopped playing games with other countries ( even supposed allies) for years. Whether it be through power of investment, political manipulation, militarily or other means.
All governed entirely by self-interest.
concept of EU confuses them completely ( not saying EU works on a lot of things)." How can you have a major bloc of countries that isn't a massive military power and isn't trying to forcibly impose itself on a global scale? How does such a politically, socially and ethnically diverse bloc manage to function without 1 person in charge or central force to physically enforce its will? etc".
There was a will in Western Europe but Eastern Europe was trapped in the Soviet Union. Cold War dominated their thinking and their industrial sectors fell way behind many others. Russian economy was a disaster until recently and its "only" natural resources/commodities that have bailed them out.The answer of course is a shared will or mutually assured flourishing. The will was there after the Second World War and the flourishing sort of worked until the euro debacle.
Couldn't agree more. Wasn't there mass executions in Saudi Arabia yesterday too? Outrageous that they are allowed to own a Premier League club.Sometimes it does all feel unremittingly bleak.
There's a great football-related article below on how, quite rightly, we sanction Russia for its outrageous behaviour in Ukraine, but ignore (and in effect support) Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen, where there have been similar impacts on civilian populations.
Shouldn’t someone in football also care about the war in Yemen just a little? | Barney Ronay
Chelsea’s ownership is finally facing deserved scrutiny but there is a double standard when it comes to Newcastle’s ownerswww.theguardian.com
The independent is one of the most reliable press in the world according to international news watch dog News Guard.
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I've got a mate who is the biggest leftie you could ever meet and very politically active. Constantly fighting some cause or other. He's a Newcastle fan and was celebrating the takeover, not heard a word from him about the owners.Couldn't agree more. Wasn't there mass executions in Saudi Arabia yesterday too? Outrageous that they are allowed to own a Premier League club.
Just a world where money talks. Olympics in China (human rights record), World Cup in Qatar (human rights record) and it goes on.Saudi investments all over the world in so many things are aloud to pass unquestioned because of the money involved. Still think there's something underhand gone on with the way Newcastle takeover was rushed through without other PL clubs being informed.Couldn't agree more. Wasn't there mass executions in Saudi Arabia yesterday too? Outrageous that they are allowed to own a Premier League club.
FuckSo a NATO training base was hit 20km from Poland (apparently) and a us journalist has been killed, I can see this escalating soon.
I have no idea I just know it's super close to Poland and seen something about it being a NATO base but t no actually sure how true it is or not, I guess time will tell.Not sure it's actually a NATO base?
There isn't much that would stop me supporting Cov but a takeover like this would.I've got a mate who is the biggest leftie you could ever meet and very politically active. Constantly fighting some cause or other. He's a Newcastle fan and was celebrating the takeover, not heard a word from him about the owners.
That's definitely how it's starting to feel.Are they just goading the west? Shooting journalists dead is not very sensible
I agreeThat's definitely how it's starting to feel.
This is promising, if true.
I cant see it myself. I wouldn't believe a word that comes from a Russian website.This is promising, if true.
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