USSR invades Ukraine. (5 Viewers)

[fernandopartridge]

 

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[Ian1779]

Is the message ‘I fucked my wife’s best mate - then she fucked me with a strap on’?

 

[Captain Dart]

It probably was just a fire but the fact that counter terrorism officers are involved indicates that the government are considering it an option.
Everyone is probably aware of their actions against countries supporting Ukraine but here's a link of a recent report on their actions.

Russia’s Shadow War Against the West

Russia is conducting a violent and escalating campaign of sabotage and subversion against European and U.S. targets in Europe led by Russian military intelligence, according to a new CSIS database. The number of Russian attacks nearly tripled between 2023 and 2024.

www.csis.org

It was a cock up.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It was a cock up.

It was a cock up.

 

[Captain Dart]

 

[chiefdave]

It was a cock up.

 

[PVA]

 

[Sick Boy]

Again, they’ve been actively supporting and funding Israel committing war crimes and this is supposed to be a shock?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

He might not be

 

[PVA]

Again, they’ve been actively supporting and funding Israel committing war crimes and this is supposed to be a shock?

Nothing the current US administration does is a shock.

Doesn't mean we should just nod along and doesn't mean we can't point it out.

 

[Sick Boy]

Nothing the current US administration does is a shock.

Doesn't mean we should just nod along and doesn't mean we can't point it out.

The previous administration was also actively supporting and funding it.

 

[PVA]

The previous administration was also actively supporting and funding it.

Yes but they weren't supporting Russia, which this thread is about.

 

[PVA]

And of course it's more shocking for the US to come out in support of a long time adversary than it is to continue supporting a long term ally. Just silly to pretend otherwise.

 

[Sick Boy]

Yes but they weren't supporting Russia, which this thread is about.

As has been said many times by many people on here, it's a country that has always and will always act in its best interests above all else, regardless of its allies.

 

[Sick Boy]

And of course it's more shocking for the US to come out in support of a long time adversary than it is to continue supporting a long term ally. Just silly to pretend otherwise.

"Supporting a long term ally" - is also an interesting turn of phrase for funding war crimes.

 

[PVA]

As has been said many times by many people on here, it's a country that has always and will always act in its best interests above all else, regardless of its allies.

Nobody has said otherwise.

 

[PVA]

"Supporting a long term ally" - is also an interesting turn of phrase for funding war crimes.

Quit with the pathetic attempts at point scoring.

I'm not defending it. They've done it for years, doesn't mean it's right or I agree with it, it's not just surprising. Suddenly coming out to bat for a long term adversary is.

 

[Sick Boy]

Quit with the pathetic attempts at point scoring.

I'm not defending it. They've done it for years, doesn't mean it's right or I agree with it, it's not just surprising. Suddenly coming out to bat for a long term adversary is.

There's no point scoring going on here. Just pointing out their hypocrisy and why it's not a surprise.

 

[PVA]

There's no point scoring going on here. Just pointing out their hypocrisy and why it's not a surprise.

If you can't see the difference in them supporting Israel and Russia then I'm sure what else to say really. We'll leave it there then.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

As has been said many times by many people on here, it's a country that has always and will always act in its best interests above all else, regardless of its allies.

Why is continuing the war suddenly not in its best interests after having been so for 2.5 years?

 

[fatso]

The previous administration was also actively supporting and funding it.

Argh yes, but no one wants to remember that or point it out, it doesn't fit with the "blame Trump for all the worlds woes" agenda.

 

[Grendel]

Why is continuing the war suddenly not in its best interests after having been so for 2.5 years?

A different view on China is the difference.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

A different view on China is the difference.

Explain how

 

[PVA]

Why is continuing the war suddenly not in its best interests after having been so for 2.5 years?

It went from 'the US wants a forever war to fund their defence sector' to 'the US is withdrawing support to save billions of dollars' real quick.

 

[PVA]

Argh yes, but no one wants to remember that or point it out, it doesn't fit with the "blame Trump for all the worlds woes" agenda.

There is a 125 page thread full of people pointing it out.

 

[Sick Boy]

It went from 'the US wants a forever war to fund their defence sector' to 'the US is withdrawing support to save billions of dollars' real quick.

Government policy often changes when a new party is elected into power, apart from in the case of Starmer.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Government policy often changes when a new party is elected into power, apart from in the case of Starmer.

‘A country always acts in its best interests’

Why has ending the war suddenly become that after years of supporting Ukraine?

 

[Sick Boy]

‘A country always acts in its best interests’

Why has ending the war suddenly become that after years of supporting Ukraine?

Because the new administration has clearly taken a more isolationist stance, which they see as being in their best interest.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Because the new administration has clearly taken a more isolationist stance, which they see as being in their best interest.

The upcoming war with Iran and bombing of Yemen notwithstanding of course.

 

[Sick Boy]

The upcoming war with Iran and bombing of Yemen notwithstanding of course.

Of course, it kind of proves the point that they’re solely focused on their own self-interests.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Of course, it kind of proves the point that they’re solely focused on their own self-interests.

How is engaging in fresh conflicts the sign of being more isolationist?

 

[Sick Boy]

How is engaging in fresh conflicts the sign of being more isolationist?

...because they're protecting what they perceive to be their self-interests.

 

[PVA]

...because they're protecting what they perceive to be their self-interests.

That's not isolationism. It's the very opposite.

They may well be acting in their own self interests, but it's certainly not isolationism.

 

[Sick Boy]

That's not isolationism. It's the very opposite.

They may well be acting in their own self interests, but it's certainly not isolationism.

It's not at all.

The USA was largely isolationist in the early 20th century but still intervened in LATAM and the Pacific to protect its own interests.

 

[fatso]

It was a cock up.

Here is that engineer