USSR invades Ukraine. (5 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

...because they're protecting what they perceive to be their self-interests.

That’s objectively not what isolationism means.

 

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[Sick Boy]

That’s objectively not what isolationism means.

It's the principle of only being interested in your own country and acting in its own self-interests. It does not mean withdrawing from the world completely.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's the principle of only being interested in your own country and acting in its own self-interests. It does not mean withdrawing from the world completely.

 

[Sick Boy]

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Yes, exactly, it's what I said.

Here's the dictionary definition as well - isolationism

the political principle or practice of showing interest only in your own country and not being involved in international activities

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes, exactly, it's what I said.

Here's the dictionary definition as well - isolationism

the political principle or practice of showing interest only in your own country and not being involved in international activities

…they’re involving themselves in Israel and Yemen as we speak. They are also mostly seeking peace as a way to steal Ukraine’s mineral wealth. It doesn’t end their involvement in that country either.

 

[Sick Boy]

…they’re involving themselves in Israel and Yemen as we speak. They are also mostly seeking peace as a way to steal Ukraine’s mineral wealth. It doesn’t end their involvement in that country either.

...yes, because in all those cases, they perceive them as serving their self-interests (showing interest in their own country).

 

[RegTheDonk]

It went from 'the US wants a forever war to fund their defence sector' to 'the US is withdrawing support to save billions of dollars' real quick.

Perhaps long term they can make more money mining minerals than being a protection racket? There's gold in them thar hills.

 

[Sick Boy]

'the US is withdrawing support to save billions of dollars'

Has anyone on here said that apart from you?

 

[PVA]

Has anyone on here said that apart from you?

Your boy Grendel did, amongst others.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It went from 'the US wants a forever war to fund their defence sector' to 'the US is withdrawing support to save billions of dollars' real quick.

The USA has achieved its mission to isolate Russia from Europe

 

[SBT]

The USA has achieved its mission to isolate Russia from Europe

To what end?

 

[fernandopartridge]

To what end?

To the end of creating bigger markets in which to sell American goods and services.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Some scary shit here

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff dismisses Starmer plan for Ukraine

Steve Witkoff says the UK plans for an international force to support a ceasefire are a "posture".

www.bbc.co.uk

Does this just not prove Russian interference jn us elections

 

[Flying Fokker]

And this:

Extracts from the interview/ Neville Chamberlain Speech/ Texas should be Mexican based on Witkoff.Republicn logic.

 

[SBT]

To the end of creating bigger markets in which to sell American goods and services.

Sorry - which markets specifically?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

And this:

Extracts from the interview/ Neville Chamberlain Speech/ Texas should be Mexican based on Witkoff.Republicn logic.

I’m happy that we have been made to think Russia are the enemy for all my lifetime and we may have been duped.
But ffs how can we go from a year or two ago trump and his cult claiming no Russia connection and then this

Utterly mad

Tryinh not to be narrow minded or under the influence is this about alienating China?

I can’t understand it it’s madness

 

[PVA]

The USA has achieved its mission to isolate Russia from Europe

Putin did a pretty good job of that himself.

 

[Sick Boy]

The best outcome above all else is an end to fighting at this point and the deaths of more people.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The best outcome above all else is an end to fighting at this point and the deaths of more people.

Putin could do that immediately.

 

[PVA]

Putin could do that immediately.

It's amazing how he keeps going on about wanting peace when he's the one man in the world that has the ability to bring about peace instantly.

 

[wingy]

The way I see it is it's up to Europe and UK or even Turkey to decide whether this continues, I'd suggest not at this point so it's a position of weakness while Russia is at its weakest point, frankly I don't know why they just don't get on with it and attack Europe from both sides, they're so uncivilised you know!

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Putin did a pretty good job of that himself.

Post Cold War there was a massive improvement in relations with Russia. The reason that ended was Putin.

 

[PVA]

Witkoff at it again today.

Repeating Kremlin propaganda and talking about how Putin is such a stand-up guy.

 

[shmmeee]

...yes, because in all those cases, they perceive them as serving their self-interests (showing interest in their own country).

Isn’t that literally every intervention?

 

[Flying Fokker]

Peace? Russian Propagandists believe they have 4 years to prepare for war with Europe(Ref: Trumps term in office). https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/DOt5iK7B4a

 

[Grendel]

Post Cold War there was a massive improvement in relations with Russia. The reason that ended was Putin.

Putin gained popularity because of the state of the country after the western strategy post cold war towards it

 

[Grendel]

Putin could do that immediately.

Well that is no more happening than Zelensky unilaterally laying down arms and ceasing hostilities

 

[SBT]

Well that is no more happening than Zelensky unilaterally laying down arms and ceasing hostilities

You think Zelensky ceasing hostilities would stop the deaths of any more people?

 

[Grendel]

You think Zelensky ceasing hostilities would stop the deaths of any more people?

I don't think I actually said that

 

[SBT]

I don't think I actually said that

Just as well!

 

[PVA]

Well that is no more happening than Zelensky unilaterally laying down arms and ceasing hostilities

'ceasing hostilities'

Classic. Tankies gonna tankie.

 

[Grendel]

'ceasing hostilities'

Classic. Tankies gonna tankie.

Well suggesting a realistic solution is that Mr Putin takes his tanks home with him is somewhat laughable is it not?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well that is no more happening than Zelensky unilaterally laying down arms and ceasing hostilities

Merely stating a fact. Putin is the only man prolonging this conflict and it’s entirely up to him to decide when it stops.

 

[Grendel]

Merely stating a fact. Putin is the only man prolonging this conflict and it’s entirely up to him to decide when it stops.

Not really - If Ukraine totally surrendered the conflict surely would stop?

 

[SBT]

Not really - If Ukraine totally surrendered the conflict surely would stop?

I’m old enough to remember 45 minutes ago when you denied saying that a Ukraine surrender would stop any more deaths