Sky Blue Pete
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Of course it would. If you break the law you should be charged, tried and if convicted, sentenced. Once served you are then free.
Of course it would. If you break the law you should be charged, tried and if convicted, sentenced. Once served you are then free.Out of interest wonder if reactions would be different if it was someone trying to justify and lending their support to paedophilia
Why? Obviously both are heinous acts to support. But supporting and justifying the terrorist ideology of mass murder is worse imoOf course it would. If you break the law you should be charged, tried and if convicted, sentenced. Once served you are then free.
Different strokes for different folks...& things always escalate. There was a time when one bloke would slap another with his glove to admonish his beastly behaviour too. Now they stamp on heads & stick glasses in their faces or knife them! Move with the times BearDamn I thought being a lad/acting hard was buying a six pack of larger when you are 15 and drinking them down the park, or sitting at the back of the bus smoking a fag. Maybe smash the occasional bus shelter if you are feeling really edgy and had a few drinks.
Things must have changed, now if you want to be one of the lads you get an Isis flag and go down the local park, but don't worry it's all just harmless banter. Boys will be boys and all that
Sorry I mean it's the same thing. It's not a criminal act to think anything I don't think. It becomes so when one acts on that thought criminally or are we going to do some kind of 'minority support' model
Sensational headline grabs attention...a bit that was or will be brushed over is as per usual the philosophical & principled side of JC. In amongst that article he is quoted saying “I have no support for ISIS whatsoever, and obviously [measures] should apply to someone who has committed crimes, but we should bear in mind that expressing a political point of view is not in itself an offence. The commission of a criminal act is clearly a different matter, but expressing a point of view, even an unpalatable one, is sometimes quite important in a democracy". Can anyone reasonably argue with that? It is how our society is set up to workMore poor judgement by Jezza
I agree absolutely but it's got to be proportional and take great thought and be regularly reviewed.Viewing child images is illegal. Viewing terrorist material therefore can easily be a crime with a huge jail sentence or at least restriction of civil liberties. With no deterrent this will carry on and on.
You can't be serious?Different strokes for different folks...& things always escalate. There was a time when one bloke would slap another with his glove to admonish his beastly behaviour too. Now they stamp on heads & stick glasses in their faces or knife them! Move with the times Bear
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Pathetic
The point is serious. Bravado has increased proportionally...so sometimes it might be considered that some very public support is mere rhetoric &/or bravado. The police & intelligence services resources don't stretch to investigating every reported case as deeply as they would like - & they make mistakes. Might have made one in this case...but that is all it would be - amongst the many thwarted efforts of these people. Various senior officers have said for a while now that it's not a question of if the terrorists gain success conducting their evil...but when.You can't be serious?
Why is it?Pathetic
The point is serious. Bravado has increased proportionally...so sometimes it might be considered that some very public support is mere rhetoric &/or bravado. The police & intelligence services resources don't stretch to investigating every reported case as deeply as they would like - & they make mistakes. Might have made one in this case...but that is all it would be - amongst the many thwarted efforts of these people. Various senior officers have said for a while now that it's not a question of if the terrorists gain success conducting their evil...but when.
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Amazing just how blatant the behaviour of this piece of shit was.
I watched that Jihadis Next Door clip last night and they are clearly a minority amongst Muslims and you could see people clearly remonstrating against them.
They were so ridiculous that at times it was bordering on a parody. The leaders of them are nothing more than fame-obsessed cowardly trolls who I doubt would ever do anything themselves and just encourage others to do so.
It is absolutely NOT that. But it is always easy to point the finger at the people who make decisions to pursue/arrest others based on what evidence they have. One wrong decision or one thing overlooked & people such as you seem to leap at their throats...whether the decision trns into one of wrongful arrest or a murderer that slips through the net.Ok, people going around supporting Isis and terror attacks could just be lads being lads and we should accept this is now normal.
Utterly appalling, we must clamp down on this sort of behaviour. This is not normal anti social behaviour or your typical yob giving it the biggun on a Saturday night out which is what you try to make it sound like.
What do you mean? I'm not directly having a go at the police/investigators, or at least wasn't trying to do. I think they need more man power, as well as a change in law to give them more legal power to round up these suspected Isis supporters who are walking free and put them behind bars before they can carry out an attack.It is absolutely NOT that. But it is always easy to point the finger at the people who make decisions to pursue/arrest others based on what evidence they have. One wrong decision or one thing overlooked & people such as you seem to leap at their throats...whether the decision trns into one of wrongful arrest or a murderer that slips through the net.
These very people have probably had no sleep since the attack, they will be wracked with guilt & pain, worried sick about other decisions made in case they missed another one. That's because they do the best they can in the cicumstances.
What really helps is people calling them out because they miss the odd ones.
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Fair enough. I wasn't meaning to have a go at you - just what I thought you were trying to do. Stir up a hornets nest as-in "Police are to blame" kind of thingWhat do you mean? I'm not directly having a go at the police/investigators, or at least wasn't trying to do. I think they need more man power, as well as a change in law to give them more legal power to round up these suspected Isis supporters who are walking free and put them behind bars before they can carry out an attack.
What a complacent & dismissive attitude you have, good job none of the fringe characters in this parody will turn out to be cold blooded killers, hold on!
I've always suspectedthat's Sky Blue Pete on the watchlist
Some real spooks type stuff:
They were playing Australia in Adelaide. The Australian FA equivalent arranged it as there were 2 Australians among the dead in London.While I don't agree with snubbing a minutes silence, why are they having one for London? If one was arranged then of course they should take part out of respect but why was there one?
They were playing Australia in Adelaide. The Australian FA equivalent arranged it as there were 2 Australians among the dead in London.
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