Vegas Shootings

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  1. NorthernWisdom

    NorthernWisdom Well-Known Member

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    I often wonder how relatives of people like this feel after the event. Guilt? Despair? Hatred? Or still love for someone you're tied to by blood?
     
  2. Captain Dart

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    His reaction was wrong. If it was my brother I'd be weeping inconsolably for weeks. This chap exhibits a baffling and worrying lack of emotion. There is some speculation that they shared some extreme political views, what if any they are will probably come out once they examine the perps. computer & phone.
     
  3. Mr Panda

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    I think in circumstances like this, so soon after such event your emotions would be incomprehensible.
     
  4. Captain Dart

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    Well maybe it is just shock but I'm surprised he can even face a camera.
     
  5. NorthernWisdom

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    But then blame the media circus for that. And the fact when 24 hour news and instant gratification is all the rage, if he doesn't then people decide he and his family were in it really.

    (Look, for example, at the faux outrage each time a member of some community doesn't condemn an atrocity instantly)
     
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  6. Houchens Head

    Houchens Head Fairly well known member from the Isle of Wight

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    One of the main reasons that I have never been, nor ever will go to, the States. They're all loonies!
     
  7. Captain Dart

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  8. NorthernWisdom

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    Former accountant.

    Says it all.
     
  9. Nick

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    not going to piss OSB off any time soon!
     
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  11. Otis

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    Would think a mixture of all of the above.
     
  12. Otis

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    The sheer, complete nuttiness of it all. The Beeb are saying that once again, in defence of guns in the US, some people are still spouting the 'guns don't kill people, people kill people' rubbish.

    It's an idiotic argument because surely it is all about the degree. You can obviously kill a lot more people with a nuclear weapon than you can with a few airborne bombers.

    Take the guns from this bloke and give him a knife instead and then how many does he kill? If any at all.

    Same as these school shootings. Sure, you could go in with a knife, but it would be impossible to carry out the same amount of carnage, as you would be overpowered and stopped. When someone has a gun you run or hide.

    With gun regulation the total death toll in America (something like 1.5million since 1968!!!) would be a fraction of that.

    It's people with guns that kill people.
     
  13. skybluegod

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    That’s one thing that really annoys me: why are there any videos?
    People should be doing what your friend was doing, and helping not trying to get a good video.
    Even news stations, why are people trying to film this stuff?
     
  14. Sick Boy

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    It's absolutely shocking. A very strange country and mindset.
     
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    have been there several times and encountered some of the most friendly people I've ever met which just makes these types of incidents all the more baffling! The gun obsession is incomprehensible.
    I think Canada has more guns per head of capita than the States though but doesn't have the same issues with gun crime so the American mind set must play a big part.
     
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    Their argument is that you combat a bad person with a gun, with a good person with a gun.
    What they fail to comprehend is how the fuck could a good person with a gun, stop this maniac who is 32 floors up and out of sight? Crazy.

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  17. Nick

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    Saw a bloke on ITV earlier on about it saying how it is people's right to be able to protect themselves.

    What are they protecting themselves from with 40 odd rifles?

    Also that Kinder Eggs are apparently banned to buy in the US but you can buy multiple sniper rifles.
     
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  18. Otis

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    Yep and that's the thing with guns. Not only can they do so much more damage than a knife, it also enables the perpetrator to shoot from distance and quite some distance at that. You're talking about hundreds of metres. That Vegas shooting was impossible to stop. Absolutely impossible.

    Surely anyone can just book into a room anywhere and open fire down on a crowd like that. And 16 weapons with him? Plus stacks more at home.

    Think the only way they will open their eyes over there is if someone opened fire and killed several Republican senators or congressmen.
     
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  19. clint van damme

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    some politicians did get shot recently.
    Critically wounded GOP Rep. Steve Scalise undergoes more surgery

    Even that doesn't seem to open their eyes to the gun problem they have.
     
  20. Otis

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    Surely even accepting and retaining the absolutely bonkers gun laws in the US, a person should be restricted to one small sidearm for personal protection on his own property. How can they legislate or permit that individuals can purchase enough weapons for a platoon !?
     
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    It can be changed, it's an amendment to the constitution (2nd amendment rights). The 18th amendment made the production, sale and transport of alcohol illegal. The 21st amendment was then used to repeal the 18th making alcohol legal again.
     
  23. Otis

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    What happened to the 19th and 20th ones? Were they too drunk to remember what they did with them?
     
  24. Ashdown

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    Sky News are now reporting that he was a multi millionaire ???
     
  25. Otis

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    Yeah, he'd have to buy to pay for 2 hotel rooms for 4 days and own 42 guns.

    Think the Beeb said it yesterday to be honest. Definitely saw it somewhere.
     
  26. Grendel

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    In the end we won't understand Americans and their attitude to guns in the same way we don't understand a society that stones adulteesses. There's no point

    I was talking to some old American guy on a long haul flight. Seemed a nice guy was loaded clearly. Asked what he normally does at weekends and basically shoot any live animals he could. Said it like it was the same as watching football.

    It won't change
     
  27. Macca

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    I see people are getting their knickers in twist that because he is white he has not been called a terrorist. I think generally people are labelled a terrorist when they claimed a cause. I assume had he have had neo nazi links he would have been labelled a terrorist same as if the Islamic State claim was true
     
  28. NorthernWisdom

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    Yeah I don't care about that. Am looking forward to Trump's travel ban on accountants, however...
     
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  29. NorthernWisdom

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    Often wheeled out, but just as appropriate every time.

    Nice to see a time when us near the bottom is an excellent thing, btw!

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  30. Macca

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    Haha I'd back that
     
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  31. Houchens Head

    Houchens Head Fairly well known member from the Isle of Wight

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    I reckon he'd been to one of the many casinos, tried his luck and failed and has lost a couple of million dollars! He's just annoyed and taken it out on the rest of humanity. And if you think this doesn't sound feasible, find out why most of the crazy mass shootings occur over there. One said it was because she didn't like Mondays! (hence the title of the Boomtown Rats single).
     
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  32. Captain Dart

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    Actually Central & S America have the highest murder rates.
     
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    They really aren't. Most Americans are normal everyday people like you and me (well I'm not really). It's only a minority that are into owning guns.
    But of course the news media don't print stories about normal everyday people enjoying their lives quietly.
    Who would want to read:
    "Mr and Mrs Average Person went for a walk in the park today and afterwards they returned home and enjoyed a chocolate cake that Mrs Average baked earlier. Their two children John and Joan are doing well in school; John is captain of the chess club and Joan excels at hockey".
     
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    That website is some right wing pro gun site. Worth a pinch of salt. The gun lobby over there are despicable and always try and weave conspiracy theories after every shooting. See what happened to the Sandy Hook survivors.
     
  35. olderskyblue

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    Have you seen the videos where you can hear the shooting, but can see muzzle flashes that are coming from a floor way lower down? Nothing at all from the supposed shooting floor.

    Maybe all conspiracy bollocks of course.
     

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