Otis
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I think that probably WAS why he was taken off. Tiredness.
Is it my imagination, or does he get subbed a lot?
Anyway, he's a very decent player. Also a player with a fabulous shot in his locker
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Is it my imagination, or does he get subbed a lot?
Anyway, he's a very decent player. Also a player with a fabulous shot in his locker
Hobo
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Both these. He lacks pace to get back
defensively, same reason he can't do box to box (although Viveash thought that would be his position).But let him play in that pocket his vision and first time passes plays us in behind the opposition. In and around the penalty area he is capable of getting good shots off.
When he joined us his fitness levels were way off Championship levels (not a criticism of him just a fact of having to go up several levels).
It takes time to build fitness to Championship levels. More than a couple of months and that is without injury setbacks. Fans need to be patient with players coming in and temper their expectation.
I think at the moment we need to accept he is going to give us 60-70 minutes. If he stays injury free we may be getting 90 out of him by the end of the season.
Re Sheaf he is a great holding defensive mid and we should leave him to do that. The weight of trying to be the creative mid since Hamer left, for me has affected his form. I would rather see Eccles forage forward more than Sheaf.
clint van damme
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There's,always been a question mark over his fitness but he's definitely improving.
He was struggling after 15-20 minutes at the start of the season.
covcity4life
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Another player some posters gave up on and out down as poor recruitment lol
Brighton Sky Blue
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Did the hard part and then didn’t know what to do next.
fernandopartridge
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What we need to do though is get him into shooting positions in and around the edge of the box
Sbarcher
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He should have been on the 18yd line for our corners when all their defenders were huddled in the 6yd box and there was acres of space in front of them.
pusbccfc
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Which is why it was frustrating he had to go off. We had a few opportunities with the ball at the edge of the box late on. Milan had a good effort but there were a couple of chances where players could have had a go.
Ccfcisparks
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Start him next game and take him off if he can’t walk anymore.
He’s been far better than Sheaf this season.
How do we know he can’t last longer than 60? Is it confirmed?
He’s been far better than Sheaf this season.
How do we know he can’t last longer than 60? Is it confirmed?
clint van damme
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Pretty much!
Ccfcisparks
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Where from mate, must of missed that
clint van damme
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Well I'm fairly sure he's not completed 90 mins, there's a reason for that
AFCCOVENTRY
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He has against Watford and Sunderland
clint van damme
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Fair play, You are correct
Mucca Mad Boys
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I think Rudoni deserves a start.
I’d like to see us trying Sheaf, Torp and Rudoni. The one thing I liked at points in the second half was Torp operating in half spaces in the opposition 1/3.
It’s nothing against Eccles, I just feel like our ball movement is predictable with both Eccles and Sheaf playing as double pivots.
Those half spaces are the ones Rudoni tries to operate in. Imagine how exposed our defence would be with both.
Rudoni has better ball control/dribbling…Torp is more intelligent especially with his positioning.
Gibbo
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I would prefer him to eccles
StrettoBoy
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I prefer Torp to Rudoni as our more advanced midfielder. Apart from anything else, he has a better shot in him.
Given our woes at LWB, I would be happy to go back to experimenting with Rudoni in that position. I thought he did quite well there and could hold that position down as a temporary measure until we can recruit someone.
Given our woes at LWB, I would be happy to go back to experimenting with Rudoni in that position. I thought he did quite well there and could hold that position down as a temporary measure until we can recruit someone.
standupforcity
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Torp instead of Eccles please!
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Should be instead of Sheaf.
I would like to see a Torp, Rudoni, Eccles midfield. Think it's currently our best.
Not sure why anyone would drop Eccles. He's had a few meh games, but generally has been our best midfielder for some time.
covcity4life
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But as you just said he's been the worst midfielder last 2 games so even if you wouldn't do it yourself you probably can see why anyone would drop him
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I think the people that don't rate Eccles, don't rate Eccles. Even if he played well last two games they wouldn't see it.
If it's a toss up between him and Sheaf at the moment, there's only one player that deserves the shirt, and it's Eccles. Like I said, he's been poor for two games, but the other option has been continuously poor. Eccles hasn't and has still been our best player multiple times this season.
covcity4life
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Can't agree. I don't have an agenda against Eccles. But he would be the midfielde ri would drop currently. Even though sheaf has been poor he's better at receiving the ball and moving it along.
Eccles did a great through ball but other than that seemed lost in his role. They both have a week of training to prove to lampard that they deserve to start I guess
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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That's fair, we are allowed to disagree.
For me I would like to see a midfield of Torp, Rudoni, Eccles. I think it would be an improvement personally.
shmmeee
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I certainly don’t think Eccles and Sheaf works. But Rudoni and Torp are so weak.
Otis
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Yeah. Never thought I would say I was for Sheaf being dropped, but he's just not showing it right now
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Yeah, that's a fair concern and I share it as well. I definitely think Torp needs to play though, and I would play him higher to get the best out of him. He's the only one that I think has a bit of vision and enough end product to go with it.
Frostie
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The problem with Rudoni is he doesn't find those spaces & take up dangerous positions often enough.
Look at the difference Colwill made when he came on for Cardiff. Yes, in terms of ability he's a step up on Rudoni, but it was the positions he was taking up that caused us no end of problems. Rudoni fades in & out of games far too much.
stevefloyd
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I think if Sheaf had a better quality player with him in midfield, (this is not a slag Eccles post either just an honest assessment on my part) we would see a better Sheaf because it would take the pressure off him, Eccles has so far been our best midfielder but as mentioned above his sloppy passing is a concern and its not a high bar thats been set.
Our problem is similar to Man City, they lost their best midfielder and their performances have dropped dramatically, we lost our best midfielder in Hamer and although we have muddled thorugh with some success it is glaringly obvious that our midfield is short of quality but if that was addressed it would link between defence and up front with the right player and not some bargain bucket Doug King speculation!
Our problem is similar to Man City, they lost their best midfielder and their performances have dropped dramatically, we lost our best midfielder in Hamer and although we have muddled thorugh with some success it is glaringly obvious that our midfield is short of quality but if that was addressed it would link between defence and up front with the right player and not some bargain bucket Doug King speculation!
