What newspaper article?
Adi Viveash lifts lid on life at Coventry City
Part one of exclusive interview with Coventry City assistant manager and head coach Adi Viveash as Mark Robins' right-hand man lifts the lid on his time with the Sky Blueswww.coventrytelegraph.net
Can we all agree to blame Andy Turner for all this?
I blame DaboAdi Viveash lifts lid on life at Coventry City
Part one of exclusive interview with Coventry City assistant manager and head coach Adi Viveash as Mark Robins' right-hand man lifts the lid on his time with the Sky Blueswww.coventrytelegraph.net
Can we all agree to blame Andy Turner for all this?
It is pretty common knowledge at this point that there was resistance from some players making threats that Viveash had to be removed.
If Robins folded to that pressure and that was the core reason then I hate our players even more for putting the club in that position.
I thought it was over a newspaper interview but can't see anything in it to break up the partnership?I’ll tell you exactly what I heard
Adi had fallings out with players for his style
during the summer we tried to sign a player. The agent exact words were he won’t be signing for Coventry while vivesh is still there. word has spread about his attitude to players (mostly young players)
this caused issues
I believe robins told adi he would be staying even if they got rid of him
after adi left, he tried to contact robins and robins ignored him the whole summer
as I said on this thread the other day - Mark Robins managing another team
So yes they fell out but I believe over robins not having adi back
can’t see anything in the article at all the CET has so much shite on it it freezes safari half way throughCan't see anything in the articles to warrant the falling out
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What do you mean?
Just over 2 minutes in.
What was said?
Not everything is how it appears and I remember watching that video at the time and thinking what have I just watched?
Was that a word of thanks from Robins to Viveash or something else Pete?What do you mean?
When he hugs Adi?
Just over 2 minutes in.
What was said?
Not everything is how it appears and I remember watching that video at the time and thinking what have I just watched?
I think the first article about a certain marriage is this one by Robins - https://archive.ph/ZztCE - published on 10th March, where he mentioned Viveash being 'difficult' and a 'marriage' -“What happened is that Mark and Adi Viveash were the heart and soul of this football club, they dragged us up through the leagues and were very successful in that. And then it just seemed that in March/April last year that something went down. You know a simple thing as an article in the Telegraph by Andy Turner about a certain marriage, and a difficult marriage. The guys have been together a long time and I don’t know, I think it provoked something.
“Adi gave another big interview and he wasn’t authorised to do it and then everyone got a bit excited and clearly, the fall-off after the Wolves game was pretty startling. I know everyone said we were knackered after the heroic FA Cup semi-final but the reality was, it looked like something was wrong."
In part two of Viveash's 'unauthorised' interview, published on 27th March - https://archive.ph/NnhT4 - he denies being 'difficult to work with' -"We don’t get everything right, by any stretch of the imagination, but we always strive to do better and I think with our qualities we sort of rub along quite nicely together.”
A bit like being married, perhaps?
“He can be difficult, can Adi, there’s no doubt about it,” he said.
That’s a ‘yes’ then!
He continued: “He can be a difficult personality but I do not want someone who is a ‘yes’ man, and he’s not that. On the contrary. He checks and challenges, and has his own opinion on things. And he has a really strong opinion at times.
Coventry City manager Mark Robins and assistant Adi Viveash don't always see eye to eye
“Sometimes I will go with that and sometimes I don’t. And sometimes he doesn’t like the fact that I haven’t gone along with his opinion but, ultimately, he knows I’m the manager and I make the decisions. Every single decision that’s made here is my decision, in terms of the football side of things, and I am obviously directed by the owner and I have to try to make sure we do the best we can to make his wishes a reality, and that’s where we are.”
Part 1 - https://archive.ph/HrOnm - and part 3 - https://archive.ph/gCdGv - for completeness“Whether we’re two strong characters and that’s why it works, I don’t know,” he said. “I certainly think, yes, the gaffer has said that I challenge but creating a challenging environment is one of my big strengths; how you get the culture, how you set up the training and how you demand in each session. Yes, I have no bones about saying that’s me at my best and that’s why I worked at the level I did.
“Is that challenging? Yes. Do I challenge him every minute of every day? No. As I have said before, I have never wanted to be a manager and the things he deals with, no. But if he asks me a question about how a training session went and if he says he thought a certain player trained well - if I didn’t then I would tell him, so if that’s challenging...
“Sometimes we agree and sometimes we disagree, but he’s the manager, as he’s said himself, and it starts there and ends there. I respect the fact that he’s the manager and the job he’s done. I respect what he’s done to rebuild this club and good luck to him. But I certainly don’t think I am difficult to work with.”
Ami missing something but I cant see anything in that article that would cause Robins to fall out with Adi over ?Adi Viveash lifts lid on life at Coventry City
Part one of exclusive interview with Coventry City assistant manager and head coach Adi Viveash as Mark Robins' right-hand man lifts the lid on his time with the Sky Blueswww.coventrytelegraph.net
Can we all agree to blame Andy Turner for all this?
Yes.When he hugs Adi?
I think you're reading too much into it. I've worked closely alongside others that I didn't like on a personal level but we had an excellent professional relationship.Yes.
As I've said before was it a thank you to Viveash or something else like 'see ya don't need ya'
We'll never know will we.
thanks for the seasonos
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What was said?
Not everything is how it appears and I remember watching that video at the time and thinking what have I just watched?
Exactly this. So many previous players have spoken warmly about Viveash, I think it's very unlikely that the club would side with 1 or 2 players that didn't supposedly like him.Did anyone watch what happened at the end of matches when Vivash was here. There was often a player from the opposition having a friendly chat with him, often having a laugh. So many of the players he brought in, who he had coached previously, like Collins (he treated me as if he was my dad), Palmer, JDS had so much praise for him. Now we have buried all the other bollocks conspiracy theories we get the players wanted Adi out or players wouldn't come here because of Adi. The evidence of how the players performed when Adi was here for seven years speak volumes for his abilities, not some half cooked unsubstantiated rumour that the players did not like him and wanted him out. Never let amazing success get in the way of a good made up story.
It’s also possible a minority of players didn’t like Vivesh and as the rumours that go to the ITKs are now clearly heavily in favour of MR and against DK that is what got emphasis to take the heat of Robins.Exactly this. So many previous players have spoken warmly about Viveash, I think it's very unlikely that the club would side with 1 or 2 players that didn't supposedly like him.
It's more plausible that two stubborn men fell out and neither wanted to say sorry.
At the players awards in May Vivesh was out on the piss with the players in the afternoon in Stratford-upon-Avon, didn’t seem much animosityExactly this. So many previous players have spoken warmly about Viveash, I think it's very unlikely that the club would side with 1 or 2 players that didn't supposedly like him.
It's more plausible that two stubborn men fell out and neither wanted to say sorry.
its weird cause i remember when everyone would sing only one mark robins at the end of games, and the team would line up and clap the crowd, robins would always point to viveash when that was happening. As in a kind of "you should be singing his name".
Whatever their personal issues (which is all speculation), it always seemed they had a good working relationship. Odd
If Adi and Mark hadn't of fallen out and we still had the same form eg 23 pts out of 23 games does doug sack them both at this stage?
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Adi Viveash lifts lid on life at Coventry City
Part one of exclusive interview with Coventry City assistant manager and head coach Adi Viveash as Mark Robins' right-hand man lifts the lid on his time with the Sky Blueswww.coventrytelegraph.net
Can we all agree to blame Andy Turner for all this?
It was also Ady’s little red book. We did get a few ex Chelsea in who hit the ground running since they grew up with Ady’s system. Not all worked out, granted, but there’s no doubt it helped when we were at our lowest.Everyone knows Adi was the brains. If Robins still had his old number 2, I doubt we would have achieved half of what we have in his 7 years. I doubt he would have lasted 7 years.
All Robins had to do, possibly, was to realise that being stubborn often backfires.
It was also Ady’s little red book. We did get a few ex Chelsea in who hit the ground running since they grew up with Ady’s system. Not all worked out, granted, but there’s no doubt it helped when we were at our lowest.
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