Wage Budget (2 Viewers)

[Nick]

Thanks Jan. imaging bar 2-3 clubs there wasn't a great lot of difference between the top 14-16 revenues?


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Wouldn't that be where your graph comes from also?

 

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[dongonzalos]

Just for clarification all clubs know what each one has in terms of revenue and thereby their player budget. The FL collects all the revenue figures from the clubs and publishes it for them all to see - the names of the other clubs are deleted but it doesn't take too much detective work to work out who most of them are. The report is published in bar chart format showing the different areas of income for each club ie ticket sales, owner investment, off field income etc. At an SCG meeting (March I think) Fisher was showing this to the meeting and CCFC was in about 8th place from memory. Obviously this shows revenue received, it does not show amount actually spent on wages etc and Waggott did admit during the meeting that we did not spend our full allowed allowance, keeping around 5% back. This is a confidential internal document for the FL clubs which is why CCFC cannot publish it - not even sure if Fisher should have been showing it but he was trying to prove a point about off field income and why we needed our own stadium etc etc

Thanks Jan

That's great to know and fairplay to the club for letting you see it.

Do if we are 8th in revenue?

Does that just mean if everybody spends to the maximum they are allowed then we would be 8th in budget as well?

 

[dongonzalos]

Ah well I guess as this particular balloon has been punctured you will move to something else now.

Bloody hell are still blabbering on about Ballons
The Higgs Charity have moved on.....

 

[ashbyjan]

Thanks Jan

That's great to know and fairplay to the club for letting you see it.

Do if we are 8th in revenue?

Does that just mean if everybody spends to the maximum they are allowed then we would be 8th in budget as well?

I would have to assume so although I would not swear that it was exactly 8th but it was around that - there is some wriggle room when it comes to SCMP that Steve Brookfield expanded on because as with everything financial and to do with the FL there is an awful lot of grey areas and "at the discretion of" areas - he said basically that the what can be included as allowable revenue for SCMP is an ongoing negotiation process. I have no doubt that as we are one off the best supported clubs in the division we have a decent budget for this division as no one (except Walsalls massive carboot sale income - I kid you not amd teams like Bristol who's owner injected large amount of money) had vast earnings aside from gate receipts. The trick is not what you spend but what you spend it on and in Mowbray I think we have someone who will unearth a few gems, bring through some of the better youngsters and even resurrect the careers of some of the forgotten men like Connor Thomas. In my opinion we will not be challenging for promotion this year but building steadily for a push the following season.

 

[dongonzalos]

I would have to assume so although I would not swear that it was exactly 8th but it was around that - there is some wriggle room when it comes to SCMP that Steve Brookfield expanded on because as with everything financial and to do with the FL there is an awful lot of grey areas and "at the discretion of" areas - he said basically that the what can be included as allowable revenue for SCMP is an ongoing negotiation process. I have no doubt that as we are one off the best supported clubs in the division we have a decent budget for this division as no one (except Walsalls massive carboot sale income - I kid you not amd teams like Bristol who's owner injected large amount of money) had vast earnings aside from gate receipts. The trick is not what you spend but what you spend it on and in Mowbray I think we have someone who will unearth a few gems, bring through some of the better youngsters and even resurrect the careers of some of the forgotten men like Connor Thomas. In my opinion we will not be challenging for promotion this year but building steadily for a push the following season.

Thanks Jan

Yes I maybe wrong but the Ricketts and Vincelot signings do bode well for judging TM. Let's hope he can do the same with the strikers

 

[rupert_bear]

I think if we don't at the very least challenge for promotion it will be a poor showing. We were about 6 wins off last season and had 5 defeats by clubs below us and we finished 17th.

 

[chinamans view]

I was only thinking about strikers ( 2 in) may be more in different positions also.

I am hoping for two strikers and a winger
And an experienced GK with LB going out on loan
I think the later is more important than some give it credence

 

[Huckerby]

I think if we don't at the very least challenge for promotion it will be a poor showing. We were about 6 wins off last season and had 5 defeats by clubs below us and we finished 17th.

Mad for that fact you are. Thought it was your signature for a bit

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[stupot07]

I think if we don't at the very least challenge for promotion it will be a poor showing. We were about 6 wins off last season and had 5 defeats by clubs below us and we finished 17th.

So basically everyone from us upwards have to be at the very least challenging for promotion or it will be poor showing, given they were all 6 or less wins off last a season?


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[georgehudson]

many thanks to Jan for explaining matters, & highlighting the fact that there are many grey areas,
which could be utilised to the benefit of CCFC,
if, of course, messrs JS & crew, wished to do so,

this, of course, could benefit many an aspiring footballer,
to not demand a wage that he could not justify,

 

[chiefdave]

I think if we don't at the very least challenge for promotion it will be a poor showing. We were about 6 wins off last season and had 5 defeats by clubs below us and we finished 17th.

Thats an important stat for me. As poor as we were for the majority of last season if we'd managed to beat 5 teams who finished below us we would have been challenging for the play offs. Just goes to show how poor this division is generally.

 

[Huckerby]

Thats an important stat for me. As poor as we were for the majority of last season if we'd managed to beat 5 teams who finished below us we would have been challenging for the play offs. Just goes to show how poor this division is generally.

I disagree tbh. In the long run, 3 points is 3 points, regardless of where they are in the table.

 

[chiefdave]

I disagree tbh. In the long run, 3 points is 3 points, regardless of where they are in the table.

Indeed 3 points are 3 points but surely it should be easy to pick up 3 points from teams at the bottom of the table than teams at the top?

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Bristol City also lost to 5 teams below them in the table, therefore we are as good as Bristol City

 

[stupot07]

Bristol City also lost to 5 teams below them in the table, therefore we are as good as Bristol City

Agreed it's a ridiculous point


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[Specs WT-R75]

Indeed 3 points are 3 points but surely it should be easy to pick up 3 points from teams at the bottom of the table than teams at the top?

On the one hand, yes it is easier. I'd rather pick up the points from the teams above as it is also points that they don't have. All of a sudden instead of 6 wins off the top you are perhaps 5 due to the 6-pointers.

 

[Hobo]

Agreed it's a ridiculous point


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Yes because we beat lots of teams who finished above us. The posters analysis is far too simplistic in a vain attempt to catapult us from 17th to nearly top 6,

If only football was that simple!