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Doesn’t it ? …. What do you base that on ? …. I can assure over many years I’ve seen gates go up and down with success …. Remember Wasps had very low attendance at Wycombe in the later years.
The correlation with on field results and attendance doesn’t really exist in rugby - wasps were finalists last year but attendances remain low and decreasing
Well you were near the bottom thus season and if the finances continue the way they are going you aren't that far away from extinction now so basically up rooted to stay in the same position, cracking work
As I said the business structure will change Wasps will remain playing in Cov.
Doesn’t it ? …. What do you base that on ? …. I can assure over many years I’ve seen gates go up and down with success …. Remember Wasps had very low attendance at Wycombe in the later years.
In your opinion, where is the £35M going to come from to pay the bondholders?
The 250 lease will mean funding is achieved - the real outrage would be if a sale could be agreed at the asset value and wasps then have a 50 year sub Lease and money in the bank
Do you mean the selling of the head lease?
Well if the sold it for market value the rugby element is then viable isn’t it?
As I said the business structure will change Wasps will remain playing in Cov.
Losing £10m, it doesn't stack up to be here, it's not Premiership football with millions to be made, they thought that was going to happen and its massively backfiredAs I said the business structure will change Wasps will remain playing in Cov.
There is Wasps Amateurs that are still playing in London, if the fans got behind them they could rise like Wimbledon FC, then the thousands of Coventry based Wasps fans can travel down there on SaturdayI don’t want Wasps to go under and wouldn’t wish that on any team in any sport, but they most definitely should go back to where they came from - they aren’t a Coventry team and they shouldn’t be based permanently in Coventry period
They started this season as runners up but there was no momentum from a support perspective just a further decline in interest
but they most definitely should go back to where they came from - they aren’t a Coventry team and they shouldn’t be based permanently in Coventry period
I beg to differ....not that they came to Cov, although I don’t expect for one moment anyone would admit that.
Explain why ? …. is that because historically football clubs are associated with a town or city. The mentality of football supporters is very much territorial …. That’s not always the case with rugby clubs, many clubs are associated with a town or city …. But the history of some rugby clubs is different.
I think if many of you are honest if Wasps hadn’t moved to the Ricoh but another stadium locally that hadn’t had an impact on CCFC, this thread wouldn’t exist. It’s the fact that Wasps came to the Ricoh that aggravated you not that they came to Cov, although I don’t expect for one moment anyone would admit that.
This should be the thing that worries Wasps. They've had success while in Coventry and its barely registered with the locals. Then look at the response to the football club winning what is, I think we will all admit, a tin pot trophy. Let alone the success after that. It doesn't compare.Of course there were free tickets but Wasps have reached 2 premiership finals and Other top tier games since they have been in Cov …. That surely swelled numbers much the same as CCFC gates have swelled because of the great resurgence of the team. You can’t use the argument both ways.
We have a 148 year old historical Rugby Club already in the City, they weren't welcome full stop.Explain why ? …. is that because historically football clubs are associated with a town or city. The mentality of football supporters is very much territorial …. That’s not always the case with rugby clubs, many clubs are associated with a town or city …. But the history of some rugby clubs is different.
I think if many of you are honest if Wasps hadn’t moved to the Ricoh but another stadium locally that hadn’t had an impact on CCFC, this thread wouldn’t exist. It’s the fact that Wasps came to the Ricoh that aggravated you not that they came to Cov, although I don’t expect for one moment anyone would admit that.
Couple of questions for our new friend.
How do Wasps get out of this cycle? We know all too well how depressing it is sitting in a quarter full ground, given that Wasps aren't embedded in the community the way the football club there is far more chance of people just deciding they don't enjoy the day out anymore. How do Wasps stop attendances dropping lower and lower? They're clearly broke so splashing out on big names isn't the answer.
I'm also interested in what happens when Richardson decides to sell. Is there not the possibility of a situation similar to London Irish where the new owner wants to take them 'home', or maybe more working if someone decides they fancy the stadium / exhibition side of the business and buy on that basis but have no interest in the rugby side. We know all too well what can happen when the sporting side of the business is told to live within its means.
This only seems viable long term if someone is willing to pump millions in every year and those people are becoming harder to find. When relatively big name football clubs are struggling to find interested buyers with the best will in the world there's not likely to be a queue of people waiting to buy Wasps.
The rugby club is not likely to go anywhere - it has a 50 year sub lease
Of course it wouldn't, rugby barely registers on here at the best of times. But I would also suggest that if that had happened and someone had stuck a poll up the response would have been overwhelming negative. The vast majority of people, and I'm talking sports fans in general not just our fans, simply don't believe clubs should be allowed to move round the country. I recall looking on some other rugby forums around the time of the move and the supporters of all other clubs were very much against it.I think if many of you are honest if Wasps hadn’t moved to the Ricoh but another stadium locally that hadn’t had an impact on CCFC, this thread wouldn’t exist. It’s the fact that Wasps came to the Ricoh that aggravated you not that they came to Cov, although I don’t expect for one moment anyone would admit that.
But losing £10m a year, it's not sustainable for a Rugby union team, a smaller leased stadium with smaller running costs in the London area would suit.The rugby club is not likely to go anywhere - it has a 50 year sub lease
That's the point, what happens if the only person interested in taking them on when Richardson wants to get out is a Wasps fan who wants them back in London. How do you untangle the mess.The rugby club is not likely to go anywhere - it has a 50 year sub lease
Explain why ? …. is that because historically football clubs are associated with a town or city. The mentality of football supporters is very much territorial …. That’s not always the case with rugby clubs, many clubs are associated with a town or city …. But the history of some rugby clubs is different.
I think if many of you are honest if Wasps hadn’t moved to the Ricoh but another stadium locally that hadn’t had an impact on CCFC, this thread wouldn’t exist. It’s the fact that Wasps came to the Ricoh that aggravated you not that they came to Cov, although I don’t expect for one moment anyone would admit that.
We have a 148 year old historical Rugby Club already in the City, they weren't welcome full stop.
Coventry Rfc supporters and Coventry Rfc owners and directors wernt too happy I'll tell youweren’t welcome by who ? ….. A few vocal CCFC supporters on a forum pissed off because Wasps moved into the Ricoh…. Hardly representative of the Coventry population.
As for Wasps being despised in the Rugby community like MK Dons. ….. I’d love to see where anyone sees that.
Of course it wouldn't, rugby barely registers on here at the best of times. But I would also suggest that if that had happened and someone had stuck a poll up the response would have been overwhelming negative. The vast majority of people, and I'm talking sports fans in general not just our fans, simply don't believe clubs should be allowed to move round the country. I recall looking on some other rugby forums around the time of the move and the supporters of all other clubs were very much against it.
The idea that Wasps are nomadic is complete nonsense. You can make a stronger agreement for Coventry City being nomadic! What is it, 136 years in London, 12 years in Wycombe which is only 25 miles from their traditional home all while insisting a move back to London was being worked on, doesn't make you nomadic and excuse a move half way across the country.
A lot of Leicester, and Worcester fans despise you for franchising out your London Rugby Club, can't say for other premiership clubs because I don't anybody that follows them, not sure what Harlequins and Saracens fans had to say.weren’t welcome by who ? ….. A few vocal CCFC supporters on a forum pissed off because Wasps moved into the Ricoh…. Hardly representative of the Coventry population.
As for Wasps being despised in the Rugby community like MK Dons. ….. I’d love to see where anyone sees that.
About 28 miles!so …… a 28 mile move to Adam’s Park outside of London is allowed but an 82 mile move is not allowed. ….. what would you suggest is the limit of an acceptable move for a rugby team ?
Coventry Rfc supporters and Coventry Rfc owners and directors wernt too happy I'll tell you
A lot of Leicester, and Worcester fans despise you for franchising out your London Rugby Club, can't say for other premiership clubs because I don't anybody that follows them, not sure what Harlequins and Saracens fans had to say.
At the moment. They have bondholders to pay.
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