Yes but I think they’ll then flog the club to MA cheap after Jan. They will get more in total selling off in bits, with inflated Jam transfer window prices, than they would selling as a whole to Ashley.If SISU miss the golden opportunity to get from under their nightmare and come out clean they would be incompetent to say the least. Selling assets like Gyokeres in January may look good short term but should relegation then follow, SISU are back in the wilderness again with a continuing nightmare for them. The price on Gyokere's head and a couple of other stars at the club, gives SISU some negotiating power, but not much. Probably enough to get their full investments back. Joy would take that.
I think that Robins saying “priceless” and Fadz £30m Gyok is telling.Yes but I think they’ll then flog the club to MA cheap after Jan. They will get more in total selling off in bits, with inflated Jam transfer window prices, than they would selling as a whole to Ashley.
Yes but I think they’ll then flog the club to MA cheap after Jan. They will get more in total selling off in bits, with inflated Jam transfer window prices, than they would selling as a whole to Ashley.
hard to believe someone that can't spell itNo. In business that's not how things unfold. Mike ashley is far to wise a cookie for that. He would say now or not at all. Imagine if SISU upset him and he puts the rent up so high in the coming years that SISU would be the ones being leveraged just like they tried to do to WASP a few years back?! beleive me, SISU will want to negotiate a way out now.
Can people stop suggesting Ashley is going to put the rent up? He can’t for another eight years.
I don’t think he wants the club either TBH, there’s been no suggestion of it other than from us fans.
If he doesn’t after the lengths he went to to try and get Derby I’d be surprised and disappointed in equal measure.
true but their mantra is "more in hope than expectation"Except they won't give us a penny in January, so our small squad's results, will probably fade away with injuries for the 2nd year in succession
I think that Robins saying “priceless” and Fadz £30m Gyok is telling.
What will SISU claim squad value is (I repeat what will SISU claim - not what we think it is?)
£50m?
You know what I think SISU want for the club.
Just think he’d have at least spoken to someone about it. We’re all hanging on a Mail article saying he “could” go after us but that’s it. It’s all supposition.
Can people stop suggesting Ashley is going to put the rent up? He can’t for another eight years.
I don’t think he wants the club either TBH, there’s been no suggestion of it other than from us fans.
When did Fadz say this?
He can.... there is a big "unless" though.Can people stop suggesting Ashley is going to put the rent up? He can’t for another eight years.
I don’t think he wants the club either TBH, there’s been no suggestion of it other than from us fans.
Apparently not...The council have little control over anything other than assigning the lease.
Would it be unusual for a 10 year lease to have a means of increasing the rent or are we expecting to be paying the same in year 10 that we did in year 1, that's an unknown for me.Can people stop suggesting Ashley is going to put the rent up? He can’t for another eight years.
He can.... there is a big "unless" though.
That unless is unless the council, as freeholders write into the contract of sale that they should keep the current terms of the rent, which i was told, when I was told this last night, is "a pittance".
The council have the power to do this apparently, but don't have to!
Much to most peoples disgust, the council, as freeholders also get to authorise any deal.
Would it be unusual for a 10 year lease to have a means of increasing the rent or are we expecting to be paying the same in year 10 that we did in year 1, that's an unknown for me.
In any case we know from past expensive there's ways for the landlord to make things awkward and more expensive if they wish.
Back to the days of having to pay for hospitality on the basis that every game is sold out, or hospitality being unavailable, or ACL insisting on managing the stewards and hiking the price up, booking events on match days so we get bumped to Friday nights.
Lots of ways to give the club a financial hit that isn't hiking the rent up.
Again naive to think this. imagine if you owned the stadium - it was your business and an outsider had control of what rent you should charge a tenant in your stadium?Apparently not...
Only if CCC write it into the sale...If he buys the lease the terms remain.
You would think that wouldn't you. But this is a tangled Web of ownership. Aa has been proved by who is dealing with all of the interested parties. (Or not dealing with them....)Again naive to think this. imagine if you owned the stadium - it was your business and an outsider had control of what rent you should charge a tenant in your stadium?
Even if true, (which I highly doubt) Ashley would have that removed.
Only if CCC write it into the sale...
They have a choice... let's see how it goes!!Which will not happen.
Only if CCC write it into the sale...
There's a lot of things that don't make sense hence my reluctance to make definite statements on Ashley's interest or motives.It might have inflation built in. Why would he even try that? None of it makes sense TBH. He wants the stadium the same reason everyone else does: to develop around it. Squeezing a few quid out of a football club isn’t worth shit.
The lease is being transferred though, no?
I was under the impression that all sub-leases are protected?
Do we know who's money he was using for the Derby bid,?Can people stop suggesting Ashley is going to put the rent up? He can’t for another eight years.
I don’t think he wants the club either TBH, there’s been no suggestion of it other than from us fans.
There's a lot of things that don't make sense hence my reluctance to make definite statements on Ashley's interest or motives.
We've gone from people wanting the NEC nowhere near it because an owner that wasn't interested in the football club would be a disaster to Ashley being a landlord we'd have no issues with. There's too many unknowns imo to be making statements like that.
If, and at the moment its a huge if, Ashley does at some point want the club and SISU don't want to sell, at least at a price he deems acceptable, who knows what will happen.
There's a lot of things that don't make sense hence my reluctance to make definite statements on Ashley's interest or motives.
We've gone from people wanting the NEC nowhere near it because an owner that wasn't interested in the football club would be a disaster to Ashley being a landlord we'd have no issues with. There's too many unknowns imo to be making statements like that.
If, and at the moment its a huge if, Ashley does at some point want the club and SISU don't want to sell, at least at a price he deems acceptable, who knows what will happen.
Well that's easy. All you have to do is get enough people to agree and vote the bastards outI feel like one battle was won in removing wasps and another one has started with the removal of the city council next.
It’s a very small percentage of bondholders.Looks like the bond holders are fired up and will have legal representatives at the Admin case on Thursday
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