Don't think so.Ahhhhhh. Interesting. Not mesh, It's MASH holdings.
Interesting to see where this goes... is there a difference or is Fraser part of MASH holdings?
Im calling it now. What's the bet if Ashley gets his hands on it. A load of grants for regeneration in that arena become available by CCC
Ahhhhhh. Interesting. Not mesh, It's MASH holdings.
Interesting to see where this goes... is there a difference or is Fraser part of MASH holdings?
I think this has been bubbling away for sometime, maybe since our now preferred bidder missed out on Derby, just a hunch.By fast pace you mean arena then club by xmas. The Hoffmeister said it would all be done and dusted by Crimbo so maybe he is the man in the middle here
If that's the case I'd be more inclined to thinking that yes that Sisu are involved, more so without that being in the timeline.I think this has been bubbling away for sometime, maybe since our now preferred bidder missed out on Derby, just a hunch.
It would be grants from WMCA or central govt, supported by CCC, not CCC money. That’s what you get if you have a piece of local infrastructure and tick the right boxes.
Hope so. I’ve not been told anything about Gary and Joy but no reason I would be although I’ve asked direct questionssorry Pete. Didn’t see this.
from my understanding and what I was told. even before Wasps went into admin, Ashley was keeping a close eye on events. It wasn’t an overnight decision.
Hoffman has been in dialogue with sisu (well Joy directly) I’m not saying Hoffman is the middle man in all this but I know he has been in dialogue with Joy since September.
My understanding, sisu would be open to offers at the right price. I feel CCFC ensured the Blackpool game went ahead knowing Ashley would then be the person to invest short term following weeks. Once we know tomorrow that Ashley is the preferred bidder I can see events escalating at a fast pace.
By fast pace you mean arena then club by xmas. The Hoffmeister said it would all be done and dusted by Crimbo so maybe he is the man in the middle here
Scratch the right backs you mean.
I've heard MASH holdings mentioned...Mash Holdings is the main company of Ashley I believe. Frasers etc… all subsidiaries of Mash holdings
Does make that Hottinger nonsense seem extremely stupid/irrelevant though?
All feels a bit dirty.sorry Pete. Didn’t see this.
from my understanding and what I was told. even before Wasps went into admin, Ashley was keeping a close eye on events. It wasn’t an overnight decision.
Hoffman has been in dialogue with sisu (well Joy directly) I’m not saying Hoffman is the middle man in all this but I know he has been in dialogue with Joy since September.
My understanding, sisu would be open to offers at the right price. I feel CCFC ensured the Blackpool game went ahead knowing Ashley would then be the person to invest short term following weeks. Once we know tomorrow that Ashley is the preferred bidder I can see events escalating at a fast pace.
I've heard MASH holdings mentioned...
All feels a bit dirty.
Anyone think we could have MA owning the Arena with Richardson, Richardson controlling Wasps2 at the Arena, SISU getting bought out and MA owning CCFC and it all being planned months ago?
Bondholders stiffed
Small unsecured creditors stiffed
HMRC stiffed and us taxpayers footing the bill?
Would this shock anyone?
It seems to fit timing wise with the Simon Jordan announcement about ccfc up for grabs, coincidence ?If that's the case I'd be more inclined to thinking that yes that Sisu are involved, more so without that being in the timeline.
Edit:- prior to the time's article inviting offers.
All feels a bit dirty.
Anyone think we could have MA owning the Arena with Richardson, Richardson controlling Wasps2 at the Arena, SISU getting bought out and MA owning CCFC and it all being planned months ago?
Bondholders stiffed
Small unsecured creditors stiffed
HMRC stiffed and us taxpayers footing the bill?
Would this shock anyone?
Does make that Hottinger nonsense seem extremely stupid/irrelevant though?
All feels a bit dirty.
Anyone think we could have MA owning the Arena with Richardson, Richardson controlling Wasps2 at the Arena, SISU getting bought out and MA owning CCFC and it all being planned months ago?
Bondholders stiffed
Small unsecured creditors stiffed
HMRC stiffed and us taxpayers footing the bill?
Would this shock anyone?
Think that’s a total goose chase TBH. Gilbert needs to be focusing on what happened before Nov 1st and how Ashley became priority bidder. The “council bailout” is the story him and Ridley have been pushing for a while, but I don’t think that’s the story here if there is one.
A timeline would be very handy.
Yep. Posted that on here yesterday myselfAugust the 2nd I believe this article came out.
Unfortunately, that's the reality for SME's and sole traders in our market economy. The bigger businesses tend to stuff everyone else.All feels a bit dirty.
Anyone think we could have MA owning the Arena with Richardson, Richardson controlling Wasps2 at the Arena, SISU getting bought out and MA owning CCFC and it all being planned months ago?
Bondholders stiffed
Small unsecured creditors stiffed
HMRC stiffed and us taxpayers footing the bill?
Would this shock anyone?
The timing, the silence from SISU, MR & Fadz both talking up the squad value and need to unite stadium and team, awkwardness of the Council and “turning down” of bailouts by Richardson, hints from Wasps kitman, all fits the narrative you ascribe.that’s business in a nutshell though.it’s the nature of the beasts involved. Most if not all businessman have a ruthless side about them. sisu have been the big fish in a small pond for too many years. Now Ashley is involved they just can’t compete on or off the pitch
NoAll feels a bit dirty.
Anyone think we could have MA owning the Arena with Richardson, Richardson controlling Wasps2 at the Arena, SISU getting bought out and MA owning CCFC and it all being planned months ago?
Bondholders stiffed
Small unsecured creditors stiffed
HMRC stiffed and us taxpayers footing the bill?
Would this shock anyone?
It’s all a bit wrong.Not sure if this is possible.. but see below ...
remember back at the start of August when the papers were running stories about SISU putting the club up for sale. No smoke without fire. The next turn of events have been brewing for months. The waiting game for most parties is almost over
Not sure if this is possible.. but see below ...
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