Skyblueweeman
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If you owned a property and the tenants weren't committing long term or wanting to buy it, you'd seek alternatives right?
As much as I dislike the situation, strategically, it's a correct one for ACL.
They are hardly in condemnation of the move are they?
If you owned a property and the tenants weren't committing long term or wanting to buy it, you'd seek alternatives right?
As much as I dislike the situation, strategically, it's a correct one for ACL.
Ask Swansea City, a taem who play good passing football and now a fixture in the Premiership.How can a football team share a ground with a rugby team when you think about the condition of the pitch after a rugby game? Or have I missed something?
How can a football team share a ground with a rugby team when you think about the condition of the pitch after a rugby game? Or have I missed something?
Hypothetical question.
So lets say Wasps buy the stadium, and turf the club out. The club goes and builds a new stadium because it has no choice. Will people be supportive then of a new stadium?
I will repeat what I said earlier, listening to Cov rugby boss Peter Rossborough he is keen on a Wasps/Cov alliance ,imo this will have been discussed ages ago. At Swansea I believe famous old Neath and Swansa rugby club amalgamated to form Neath/Swansea Ospreys and eventually dropped the Neath/Swansea bit to just Ospreys. The old famous Coventry Rugby Club changed years ago from the Man. United of English Rugby to a piddling little outfit almost going out of business more than once, I say bring it on !ACL have said they want the club there at the Ricoh and it is Sisu who are insisting they are going off to build a new stadium.
Would say the CT are being a hell of a late more impartial than you are, Ian.
I myself, would consider my own stance as quite balanced and of course no one wants to see anyone 'turfed out.' I honestly can't see that happening. The whole city would surely be up in arms about it.
Any deal for Wasps would have to at least offer to accomodate the Sky Blues. Better still, it would be a half share. Best of all, the club buy the Ricoh and we're all happy. No Wasps, no impingement on Cov rugby club and the Sky Blues with a secure future.
I will repeat what I said earlier, listening to Cov rugby boss Peter Rossborough he is keen on a Wasps/Cov alliance ,imo this will have been discussed ages ago. At Swansea I believe famous old Neath and Swansa rugby club amalgamated to form Neath/Swansea Ospreys and eventually dropped the Neath/Swansea bit to just Ospreys. The old famous Coventry Rugby Club changed years ago from the Man. United of English Rugby to a piddling little outfit almost going out of business more than once, I say bring it on !
So anyway wasps talking over the Ricoh.......
I just hope its not too late and this is the one thing that speeds up the only feasible solution to this whole mess.
SISU negotiate in good faith (this time) for a part or all of ACL and at a proper price
I only read the CET for my news!
PLUS, I did say genuine question. Wasn't trying to be cocky or anything, just asking.
But didn't Fisher say that we were only going for a new stadium because ACL wouldn't sell to the club or am i imagining that?
But didn't Fisher say that we were only going for a new stadium because ACL wouldn't sell to the club or am i imagining that?
ACL have said they want the club there at the Ricoh and it is Sisu who are insisting they are going off to build a new stadium.
Would say the CT are being a hell of a late more impartial than you are, Ian.
I myself, would consider my own stance as quite balanced and of course no one wants to see anyone 'turfed out.' I honestly can't see that happening. The whole city would surely be up in arms about it.
Any deal for Wasps would have to at least offer to accomodate the Sky Blues. Better still, it would be a half share. Best of all, the club buy the Ricoh and we're all happy. No Wasps, no impingement on Cov rugby club and the Sky Blues with a secure future.
Why do I need to be impartial? I already support a club that doesn't own it's own stadium due to a multitude of reasons, is it so wrong to not want to become a second-class tenant in a stadium that could be given priority to another team in another sport?
Could, yes. Think people are totally jumping the gun and wanting us to all be up in arms and yet we don't even know if there is a deal or what that potential deal would be.
Maybe so - lets hope you are right.
People are rightly concerned considering we thought we had finally turned a corner upon our return to Ricoh.
If SISU were offered same potential deal as Wasps and then turned it down then they would deserve the criticism. I'm not sure how the club can be blamed at this point.
I think up to now SISU thought they had the upper hand and I hazard a guess have never offered the full value for either ACL or the stadium.
We know for a fact that they tried to get the Higgs share for a pittance.
SISU, just buy into ACL and stop this nonsense.
Seems to okay for others.
- Adams Park: Wycombe Wanderers F.C. (football) share their home stadium with London Wasps (rugby union) from 2002.
- Bramall Lane: Sheffield United F.C. (football) share their home stadium with Sheffield Eagles (rugby league).
- DW Stadium: Wigan Athletic F.C. (football) and Wigan Warriors (rugby league)
- John Smith's Stadium: Huddersfield Town F.C. (football) and Huddersfield Giants (rugby league).
- KC Stadium: Hull City A.F.C. (football) and Hull F.C. (rugby league)
- Keepmoat Stadium: Doncaster Rovers F.C. (football) share their stadium with Doncaster RLFC (rugby league).
- Liberty Stadium: Swansea City A.F.C. (football) and Ospreys (rugby union)
- Madejski Stadium: Reading F.C. (football) share their home stadium with London Irish (rugby union).
- Meadow Lane: Notts County F.C. (football) share their home stadium with Nottingham R.F.C. (rugby union).
- Memorial Stadium (Bristol): Bristol Rovers (football) and Bristol Rugby (rugby union)
- Racecourse Ground: Wrexham F.C. (football) share their home stadium with North Wales Crusaders (rugby league).
- Spotland Stadium: Rochdale A.F.C. (football) share their home stadium with Rochdale Hornets (rugby league)
- The Shay: F.C. Halifax Town (football) share their home stadium with Halifax RLFC (rugby league).
Isn't the rugby league season now over the summer?
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Think there's two different set ups if my memory serves me right. One on the summer, one in the winter.
Maybe so - lets hope you are right.
People are rightly concerned considering we thought we had finally turned a corner upon our return to Ricoh.
If SISU were offered same potential deal as Wasps and then turned it down then they would deserve the criticism. I'm not sure how the club can be blamed at this point.
If the children's charity was so concerned about their money.... you have to wonder why they invested in the first place knowing full well they could have lost the lot....
Why should the charity have been used to try to bail out the financial mistakes of former directors...?
How do you know ACL have offered Wasps anything. It seems to me that wasps have done the chasing and ACL have clearly been receptive. Could it be that the way that wasps are approaching the issue is more constructive than litigation. Other than litigation and all the other nonsense that has gone on, can you list what SISU have done to gain control of ACL in a way that would tempt either share holder into doing a deal. Have they ever made any serious offer for any part of ACL? Have they ever made any offer or tried to approach CCC for the freehold. You can take a flippant comment from someone you've already pointed out on this thread as word being untrustworthy as gospel if you like but this story proves that if nothing else ACL have only ever received 1 genuine enquiry for a controlling share of them and therefore the Ricoh and it isn't SISU or any of their subsidiaries.
If that isn't SISU's fault I don't know what is. Are ACL supposed to force SISU to the negotiation table by gun point? I doubt they've had to do that with the wasps.
Its the silence from the club which is unsettling. The return to the Ricoh bought some overdue positivity. ACL and the Council spoke about ownership possibility and Waggot has reverted the emphasis back onto the football side of things. I think they need to comment to avoid undoing some of this good work, even if its along the lines of 'We are aware of reports and are/will be in discussion with ACL'. Anything!
If you want to go down that line then perhaps it's worth thinking about where all the profits from ACL have gone over the last 9 years?
Surely a deprived kid is more deserving of that money than paying down a mortgage we were told they could manage sufficiently.
Repaying (part) of a £21M loan?
We need all the facts before we can understand that statement.
If SISU offered half its value because the club were not there and CCC turned it down can TF say that CCC will not sell the club?
Can anyone answer these questions.
1. What is the stadium worth now with a football team? in it. (.. and wasps buzzing around with interest) ?
2. What offer have SISU made for the stadium, if any ?
3. Is the so called offer for ACL or the stadium ?
You cannot blame the stadium owners for any of this. If we really wanted the stadium we would have taken advantage of the countless opportunities of the past.
It appears our owners still think the legal challenge is the answer. If the stadium gets new owners then surely the outcome of any challenge is fruitless in terms of gaining any control of the Ricoh.
You cannot blame the stadium owners for any of this. If we really wanted the stadium we would have taken advantage of the countless opportunities of the past.
It appears our owners still think the legal challenge is the answer. If the stadium gets new owners then surely the outcome of any challenge is fruitless in terms of gaining any control of the Ricoh.
Repaying (part) of a £21M loan?
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