Wasps signs have actually gone!! (4 Viewers)

SHUNT31 · Dec 15, 2022

I don’t want this to be true and personally cannot see them playing in the championship at the CBS.

Maybe they will, maybe they’re so arrogant they think their ‘Global Brand’ will pull crowds regardless of the division.

I’d be up for going to Wasps vs Cov at the CBS if they do mind you, and just continuously sing anti wasps songs. Pricks.

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MalcSB · Dec 15, 2022

SHUNT31 said:
I don’t want this to be true and personally cannot see them playing in the championship at the CBS.

Maybe they will, maybe they’re so arrogant they think their ‘Global Brand’ will pull crowds regardless of the division.

I’d be up for going to Wasps vs Cov at the CBS if they do mind you, and just continuously sing anti wasps songs. Pricks.

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We could have a SBT jolly boys outing.

Skyblueweeman · Dec 15, 2022

fernandopartridge said:
I'm genuinely surprised after it has been proven comprehensively that the public in this area is not interested in them

Quite. Especially since they also fucked over many local companies and the local taxpayer out of millions.

The nerve of them to think they can stroll back to Cov is actually rather astonishing.

Nick · Dec 15, 2022

AOM said:
I wouldn't be surprised if they end up staying but like you say, I just cannot see it working?
Can't see Mike Ashley/Fraser Group doing them a special favour with stupidly low rent, and attendances are going to be at a record low so surely they'll be back to massive losses again?

Let's face it, Richardson did Ashley a favour....

Be interesting to see who's involved.

Nick · Dec 15, 2022

Sbarcher said:
We will never know what handshakes went on to ensure MA ended up as the preferred bidder.

Exactly

chiefdave · Dec 15, 2022

Knowing our luck our rent will be whacked up to subsidise them playing there for free

Mcbean · Dec 15, 2022

Ashley won’t give a tinkers cuss if they sign a contract for to pay

jordan210 · Dec 15, 2022

Bets on CCC having subsidised rent as part of the deal with Ashley

Grendel · Dec 15, 2022

There’s some paranoia here

Championship rugby vs Premier League is similar to Football premier league Vs League two

Crowds would be a couple of thousand at best. There is very little income and Ealing in particular would be huge versus wasps so no automatic recovery at all. Salaries are a fraction so no ability to attract premier players and they have zero credibility here in terms of credit worthiness

CCFC54321 · Dec 15, 2022

MalcSB said:
Ben Rumsby of The Telegraph reporting that Wasps are negotiating a deal to stay at the CBS Arena.

Why? Why would they want to stay in Coventry? That’ll be financial suicide to try and stay in Coventry? This type of shit from wasps demonstrates the amateur thought process behind everything they have done so far.

Let’s look at the facts facing them….

1. Gates would be 5-6k for the first game slowly slipping down to approx 2.000.

2.Empty stadium every other week.

3. How do they pay the rent. You can’t have CCFC paying £150,000 per year and that load of old shite £25,000. That’s not fair even if they have less games. The heating and power would cost a significant % and burn any profit away.

4. Why would Ashley have the noise and next to minimum profit from them being here?

5. Even as premiership side there was little or no interest in them being here. That’s a cold fact. Why would this new clubs new owners want to be in Coventry? It’s a bizarre strategy when the support wasn’t there before?

Sick Boy · Dec 15, 2022

Grendel said:
There’s some paranoia here

Championship rugby vs Premier League is similar to Football premier league Vs League two

Crowds would be a couple of thousand at best. There is very little income and Ealing in particular would be huge versus wasps so no automatic recovery at all. Salaries are a fraction so no ability to attract premier players and they have zero credibility here in terms of credit worthiness

A couple of thousand wouldn’t be much different to this season to be fair.

Evo1883 · Dec 15, 2022

Sick Boy said:
A couple of thousand wouldn’t be much different to this season to be fair.

Grendel missed the point that the city already has a championship club too .
They'd get less than now

Johnnythespider · Dec 15, 2022

Evo1883 said:
Grendel missed the point that the city already has a championship club too .
They'd get less than now

I'd certainly hope they got less than Cov

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Dec 15, 2022

CCFC54321 said:
Why? Why would they want to stay in Coventry? That’ll be financial suicide to try and stay in Coventry? This type of shit from wasps demonstrates the amateur thought process behind everything they have done so far.

Let’s look at the facts facing them….

1. Gates would be 5-6k for the first game slowly slipping down to approx 2.000.

2.Empty stadium every other week.

3. How do they pay the rent. You can’t have CCFC paying £150,000 per year and that load of old shite £25,000. That’s not fair even if they have less games. The heating and power would cost a significant % and burn any profit away.

4. Why would Ashley have the noise and next to minimum profit from them being here?

5. Even as premiership side there was little or no interest in them being here. That’s a cold fact. Why would this new clubs new owners want to be in Coventry? It’s a bizarre strategy when the support wasn’t there before?

I’d hazard a guess they’d pay by stand

MalcSB · Dec 15, 2022

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’d hazard a guess they’d pay by stand

The pitch element of the fee would have to be at least the same as for the football, as would dressing rooms. So one stand open would / should not equal a quarter of the cost.

MalcSB · Dec 15, 2022

CCFC54321 said:
Why? Why would they want to stay in Coventry? That’ll be financial suicide to try and stay in Coventry? This type of shit from wasps demonstrates the amateur thought process behind everything they have done so far.

Let’s look at the facts facing them….

1. Gates would be 5-6k for the first game slowly slipping down to approx 2.000.

2.Empty stadium every other week.

3. How do they pay the rent. You can’t have CCFC paying £150,000 per year and that load of old shite £25,000. That’s not fair even if they have less games. The heating and power would cost a significant % and burn any profit away.

4. Why would Ashley have the noise and next to minimum profit from them being here?

5. Even as premiership side there was little or no interest in them being here. That’s a cold fact. Why would this new clubs new owners want to be in Coventry? It’s a bizarre strategy when the support wasn’t there before?

They may be being forced to be stay at the CBS arena as RFU rules require a phoenix club to do so. Utter madness when ownership of the facility has been lost and it was buying the facility that lead to Wasps downfall.

chiefdave · Dec 15, 2022

MalcSB said:
They may be being forced to be stay at the CBS arena as RFU rules require a phoenix club to do so. Utter madness when ownership of the facility has been lost and it was buying the facility that lead to Wasps downfall.

Maybe that's where the story is coming from but surely the RFU would make an exception. After all they had no problem with them moving half way across the country in the middle of a season

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 15, 2022

Wasps was never about what's right, what's wrong, or what works.

It's been an absolute horror show from the first minute and the administration report was absolutely damming. It confirmed it all. That isn't the point though.

The ownership at wasps, and Coventry Council have kept that thing going at any opportunity despite it being horrendously unsuccessful. They don't care about its sustainability and weren't prepared to stop even when the administration happened. The Gilbert report made them nervous, but if anything has pushed things further underground. One would be foolish to think they've given up on it now, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if some dodgy dealings have gone on.

If it does happen however, the council and wasps better be ready for war.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 15, 2022

fernandopartridge said:
I'm genuinely surprised after it has been proven comprehensively that the public in this area is not interested in them

There’s one insect lover in Nuneaton to the contrary

slowpoke · Dec 15, 2022

Do you think FG would have taken ALL the Wasp signs down if they were on their way back also do you think Ashley would worry about what the RFU think I reckon that would be like a red rag to a bull.

MalcSB · Dec 15, 2022

slowpoke said:
Do you think FG would have taken ALL the Wasp signs down if they were on their way back also do you think Ashley would worry about what the RFU think I reckon that would be like a red rag to a bull.

I don’t think it was FG who took the signs down, the firm who did so were on the list of creditors and may simply have repossessed them. Having said that, there is apparently a debranding manager.

Ashley won’t be bothered about the RFU, Wasps will be if staying at the arena is essential to them starting again in t( Championship as opposed to 7 rungs down.

Nick · Dec 15, 2022

slowpoke said:
Do you think FG would have taken ALL the Wasp signs down if they were on their way back also do you think Ashley would worry about what the RFU think I reckon that would be like a red rag to a bull.

Probably more to do with the sign companies owned tens of thousands.

wingy · Dec 15, 2022

Nick said:
Probably more to do with the sign companies owned tens of thousands.

93k if I remember correctly.

slowpoke · Dec 15, 2022

wingy said:
93k if I remember correctly.

Blimey, I’ll keep my eye open at the Furnace End car boot market for them.

play_in_skyblue_stripes · Dec 15, 2022

It might be easier as a temporary measure for them to stay around until an alternative found.

Terry Gibson's perm · Dec 15, 2022

There are better alternatives for them in the Coventry area maybe they could play at the boro ground as that is more than big enough for them.

slowpoke · Dec 15, 2022

Terry Gibson's perm said:
There are better alternatives for them in the Coventry area maybe they could play at the boro ground as that is more than big enough for them.

I’d say Coventry Street just up the road from Piccadilly Circus would be ideal.

shmmeee · Dec 15, 2022

slowpoke said:
Do “new” Wasps exist yet ?

New parasitic wasp species discovered in Norway

Species learns ‘language’ of other wasps, or bees, before laying eggs in their nests, which eat any other eggs and larvae in the nest

www.independent.co.uk

skyblu3sk · Dec 16, 2022

I think the cost to keep the pitch in good order for football will go against wasps as you'd need to take that in to account in the rent and we all heard how expensive that was this year! It just doesn't seem financially viable to have them there.

clint van damme · Dec 16, 2022

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Wasps was never about what's right, what's wrong, or what works.

It's been an absolute horror show from the first minute and the administration report was absolutely damming. It confirmed it all. That isn't the point though.

The ownership at wasps, and Coventry Council have kept that thing going at any opportunity despite it being horrendously unsuccessful. They don't care about its sustainability and weren't prepared to stop even when the administration happened. The Gilbert report made them nervous, but if anything has pushed things further underground. One would be foolish to think they've given up on it now, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if some dodgy dealings have gone on.

If it does happen however, the council and wasps better be ready for war.

They'll be no war, they'll be a 100 pager on here and a load of silly bollocks on twitter.
The Wasps project has never met with the resistance it should of, why would this be any different? It's an embarrassment to the city to be honest.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 16, 2022

slowpoke said:
I’d say Coventry Street just up the road from Piccadilly Circus would be ideal.

Fun fact-neither Coventry Street nor Leicester Square are named for either city

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 16, 2022

clint van damme said:
The Wasps project has never met with the resistance it should of

Two dozen people are writing placards and filling up flasks as we speak...

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 16, 2022

clint van damme said:
They'll be no war, they'll be a 100 pager on here and a load of silly bollocks on twitter.
The Wasps project has never met with the resistance it should have, why would this be any different? It's an embarrassment to the city to be honest.

I would suggest we ballot the Wasps fans for industrial action but it seems they did that themselves for most of the 8 years they were here.

Otis · Dec 16, 2022

Deleted member 5849 said:
Two dozen people are writing placards and filling up flasks as we speak...

And I'm firing up the photocopier.

AndreasB · Dec 16, 2022

Am not sure its as far fetched as we are all thinking/hoping for.
Wasps phoenix club owners will have factored in the potential rent cost and expected crowds. Being at the CBS gives them that "big club" kudos and would attract more sponsorship than playing in some non league football ground where they can be forgotten about.
Small though it may be, there is a core following for Wasps here now- certainly more than anywhere else
They still have Henley and can base operations from there as we do with Ryton so just rent the ground matchdays
They could easily bounce straight back into the premiership and become a heroic story to some.
We still dont know Ashleys real intentions so Premiership rugby could be part of that

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