We deserve the mess we are in (2 Viewers)

[dongonzalos]

This isn't business Grendel, this is Sky Blues Talk. You appear to be asking a poster to have access to CCFC files or MR's personal correspondence? Are you ok?

Confidentiality agreements are fairly common, it has to be said.

Didn't even see that post from Grendel.

TF said he has involved MR in the plans for club regarding rent and stadium ownership.

SISU would be very naive if they did not say to MR in leaving CCFC that he signs a confidentiality clause.

When MR was asked what assurances did he seek he said he won't go into detail.

I genuinely did not expect a word from MR about the council rent or anything else.

 

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[Grendel]

This isn't business Grendel, this is Sky Blues Talk. You appear to be asking a poster to have access to CCFC files or MR's personal correspondence? Are you ok?

Confidentiality agreements are fairly common, it has to be said.

He discussed his reasons for leaving at a very public press conference. People are clutching at straws as he did not give the answers he liked. If he signed an agreement it would be no comment.

Ash down and sky blue John have made suggestions he has been paid to make positive comments about the board.

 

[dongonzalos]

I don't, it's just you gave a sarcastic remark to Torchy whilst totally ignoring his point. There is no other interest so wanting SISU gone is futile until that changes.

He said I was saying SISU out.

I have been criticising them and the way they conduct their business.
If there was an alternative then great.
However just because there isn't one doesn't mean I should not criticise SISU for the way they conduct business.

Personally I think they have contributed to us a very good manager via the way they are handling the rent negotiations.

I also feel they have hit ACL and the council mid trust rusting them massively.

Which takes us further away from stadium ownership.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

It wasn't me but please feel free to misquote me in any other BS you want to make up and refer to it as BS at the same time.

I apologise:

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/19943-The-conspiracy-theorist-in-me

Can't be blamed for thinking it was you, pro Thorn, the biggest contributor of conspiracy theories.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

I'll say one thing with regards to Robins interview...At the very end of it he said....."I've joined a Club that is "Investing"....Not rocket science as to what he meant is it?

 

[stupot07]

I'll say one thing with regards to Robins interview...At the very end of it he said....."I've joined a Club that is "Investing"....Not rocket science as to what he meant is it?

But they are championship club, their financial fair play rules are based on the amount of addition owner resources spent (ie loses), we're bound by a % of our footballing income.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

But they are championship club, their financial fair play rules are based on the amount of addition owner resources spent (ie loses), we're bound by a % of our footballing income.

Glad someone else gets it.

 

[sky blue john]

He discussed his reasons for leaving at a very public press conference. People are clutching at straws as he did not give the answers he liked. If he signed an agreement it would be no comment.

Ash down and sky blue John have made suggestions he has been paid to make positive comments about the board.

Grendel i would appreciate it if you stop making up lies about what you think i have said. You have done this on two threads now anymore and i will have no choice but to report your posts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ajsccfc]

But you did suggest that.

we all know fish and wagg like a bit of spin. Now if you work in certain circles if someone hands in their notice a thing called an exit strategy is used.
Obviously they tried to get MR to stay but once they had to accept he wanted to leave they would have discussed his exit strategy.
That is the reason why he cleared his desk that day.
Also they would have discussed what he would say to the media afterwards.

And when I questioned if people were actually being serious about Robins being paid to make nice:

contracts of employment will have things like not being able to divulge business practices even after you have left a job. Is this not the same but put in a less vulgar way !!!

 

[Grendel]

But you did suggest that.



And when I questioned if people were actually being serious about Robins being paid to make nice:

Thanks just beat me to it

 

[Grendel]

Grendel i would appreciate it if you stop making up lies about what you think i have said. You have done this on two threads now anymore and i will have no choice but to report your posts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I won't report you but an apology would be nice.

 

[sky blue john]

If you read my two posts above they say nothing about being paid to keep quiet.
When he signed his contract when joining five months ago it is highly likely that confidentiality would be in the contract. This would cover also when he left.
ffs can the pair of you not read !!!!!!

 

[CJparker]

Come on lads, keep it friendly

 

[torchomatic]

Wriggle, squirm, etc.

If you read my two posts above they say nothing about being paid to keep quiet.
When he signed his contract when joining five months ago it is highly likely that confidentiality would be in the contract. This would cover also when he left.
ffs can the pair of you not read !!!!!!

 

[ajsccfc]

When I asked whether people were serious about him being bribed to play nice you suggested it's similar to confidentiality deals 'but put in a less vulgar way'

I can read.

 

[Grendel]

If you read my two posts above they say nothing about being paid to keep quiet.
When he signed his contract when joining five months ago it is highly likely that confidentiality would be in the contract. This would cover also when he left.
ffs can the pair of you not read !!!!!!

You said "they'll discuss what he said to the media afterwards"

This is very different to a confidentiality agreement. This implies fisher and waggott (named in your post) would tell him what to say about the board and to put the board in a positive light. He would only do this if there was a financial incentive.

Care to explain what you really meant?

 

[Moff]

I'll say one thing with regards to Robins interview...At the very end of it he said....."I've joined a Club that is "Investing"....Not rocket science as to what he meant is it?

Yes he was talking about his wages the greedy disloyal fekker.

 

[sky blue john]

Exit stratagies common practice to cause minimal damage to the company the person is leaving.
So things like clearing his desk before speaking to huddersfield so as to cause less embarresment coming back.
He would have been reminded what he was and wasn't allowed to divulge based on the contract which he would have signed five months ago.

 

[Moff]

Exit stratagies common practice to cause minimal damage to the company the person is leaving.
So things like clearing his desk before speaking to huddersfield so as to cause less embarresment coming back.
He would have been reminded what he was and wasn't allowed to divulge based on the contract which he would have signed five months ago.

John, whilst I respect your opinion, Robins is nothing more than a greedy mercenary who has no idea what the word loyalty means. He couldnt wait to double/triple his wages and treated us the fans like mugs.

I dont believe there is any confidentiality agreement, just a lowdown snake trying to wriggle out of the fact he is a greedy fekker.

 

[dongonzalos]

I apologise:

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/19943-The-conspiracy-theorist-in-me

Can't be blamed for thinking it was you, pro Thorn, the biggest contributor of conspiracy theories.

Apology accepted, you know that that did actually happen though don't you?

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Apology accepted, you know that that did actually happen though don't you?

:facepalm:

 

[dongonzalos]

:facepalm:

I all seriousness while I have got you.

Do you now see the dangers if the this rent saga dragging on.
Nothing good comes if it. We look like idiots.
We look skint and open to poaching.
Staff be it managers, physios whatever.
Will put it as a factor when they make decisions whether to stay or go.
I am not saying it will be the only of most important factor but it is a factor.
SISU are trying to hold out for an extra 18 grand a month.

Is that worth losing the likes if Robins.

Is it worth us appearing in the news under headlines.

Pay up or sell up. .

 

[Moff]

Pay up or sell up. .

Sell up? to who? (for the fifty billionth time)

 

[torchomatic]

Exactly. These people are thick, there's no other explanation.l

Sell up? to who? (for the fifty billionth time)

 

[coundonskyblue]

Sell up? to who? (for the fifty billionth time)

Can you tell me who the next owner of Swindon Town will be please?

If there is no one currently interested does that mean the current owners are stuck there for the next 2.5 billion years when the earth (including Wiltshire) will be consumed by the sun?

 

[Grendel]

I all seriousness while I have got you.

Do you now see the dangers if the this rent saga dragging on.
Nothing good comes if it. We look like idiots.
We look skint and open to poaching.
Staff be it managers, physios whatever.
Will put it as a factor when they make decisions whether to stay or go.
I am not saying it will be the only of most important factor but it is a factor.
SISU are trying to hold out for an extra 18 grand a month.

Is that worth losing the likes if Robins.

Is it worth us appearing in the news under headlines.

Pay up or sell up. .

None of this is a factor in Robins leaving, absolutely nothing to do with it. Mark Robins played us and people should wake up and direct the anger where it should be aimed out.

 

[Grendel]

Can you tell me who the next manager of Swindon Town will be please?

If there is no one currently interested does that mean the current owners are stuck there for the next 2.5 billion years when the earth (including Wiltshire) will be consumed by the sun?

No but there will be 50 or so applicants as people will want it

 

[dongonzalos]

None of this is a factor in Robins leaving, absolutely nothing to do with it. Mark Robins played us and people should wake up and direct the anger where it should be aimed out.

What do you think he meant by the board could not give me the assurances I wanted and the council could help more?

 

[Grendel]

What do you think he meant by the board could not give me the assurances I wanted and the council could help more?

Tell you want he really meant Don. He meant;

"I'm only interested in Mark Robins. If Coventry got to Wembley and promotion Mark Robins will get a big job in the summer as Mark Robins will have achieved the impossible - a succesful season at Coventry. As Mark Robins was not going to get that Mark Robins had better do something quick. Being only interested in Mark Robins I will jump to the offer that pays the best salary. It's Huddersfield"

Mark Robins wants the Leeds job. I am sure in the summer Huddersfield will not be giving assurances as we didn't, as Barnsley didn't as Rotherham didn't........

Face it we've been used.

 

[CJparker]

None of this is a factor in Robins leaving, absolutely nothing to do with it. Mark Robins played us and people should wake up and direct the anger where it should be aimed out.

Well we don't know for sure either way - but MR himself stated that off-field issues played a part (not that I take it as gospel from him). I don't blame SISU directly for him leaving, but it must have been one of the factors at work, albeit not the decisive one that he used as an excuse

 

[SkyBlueSwiss]

How wrong do you want to be Grendel/torch/ SBT etc. Could MR state any plainer that the rent dispute and the owners (SISU) are the reason he left?
It is exactly as Don stated - how can you question this? How many people said that one moment everything seemed fine, then he had a meeting with Dear Joy and suddenly he is gone! Well - here is MR himself absolutely confirming what happened and why:


“It was a considered decision,” said Robins, who alluded to the current rent dispute between the club and Arena Coventry Ltd – the owners of the Ricoh Arena.
“I spoke to the owner, I sought assurances and didn’t get any assurances from the owner of Coventry,” he said as he was unveiled today as the Terrier’s fifth manager in as many years


Read More http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/co...t-coventry-city-92746-32812037/#ixzz2Kuo0iefS

 

[Moff]

Can you tell me who the next owner of Swindon Town will be please?

If there is no one currently interested does that mean the current owners are stuck there for the next 2.5 billion years when the earth (including Wiltshire) will be consumed by the sun?

No I cant and neither do I care, some twat from Banbury probably.

Did I say we would never get a new owner ever? No, what I am pointing out as you well know is that currently there doesnt seem to be a huge number of potential investors, well unless you believe in the Tooth Fairy Hoffman, so when I say for the fifty billionth time 'who do we sell to' I mean now, as in the present, as there isnt anyone.

 

[Grendel]

How wrong do you want to be Grendel/torch/ SBT etc. Could MR state any plainer that the rent dispute and the owners (SISU) are the reason he left?
It is exactly as Don stated - how can you question this? How many people said that one moment everything seemed fine, then he had a meeting with Dear Joy and suddenly he is gone! Well - here is MR himself absolutely confirming what happened and why:


“It was a considered decision,” said Robins, who alluded to the current rent dispute between the club and Arena Coventry Ltd – the owners of the Ricoh Arena.
“I spoke to the owner, I sought assurances and didn’t get any assurances from the owner of Coventry,” he said as he was unveiled today as the Terrier’s fifth manager in as many years


Read More http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/co...t-coventry-city-92746-32812037/#ixzz2Kuo0iefS

If Huddersfield paid less than us would he have gone?

 

[Moff]

How wrong do you want to be Grendel/torch/ SBT etc. Could MR state any plainer that the rent dispute and the owners (SISU) are the reason he left?

Yeah like he's going to admit the truth and say, "Im a greedy b'stard and now im rolling in it. Loyalty....my arse"

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I don't deserve the mess we're in!!!