The 3 of them together put this squad together. MR with him pushing for Binks, Kitching, Asante and Rudoni, the scouting team for the other recommendations, even Viveash for Palmer, Collins and Dasilva you could argue. King with the cherry on top prioritising the ability to make a profit over everything else.So how do we know that's down to Robins?
Oh yeah, he said something in the local media so it must be true. The same media King made his comments in that we should just ignore!!
I think the truth is a bit more nuanced than on Robin, not on Robins but people seem to want to blame every bit of adversity on a man who rebuilt the club. It's weird.
If that form (0.8 PPG) continues under Lampard for the 24 remaining games of this season then we'll finish with about 44 points and will likely be relegated. So yes, I'd expect people to call for Lampard to go under that scenario.I'm happy to debate it either way, include or exclude last season.
But if you include the end of last season then Robins bad run started after we best Leeds, so 6 games.
Add that on to the 14 we got this season that's 20 games, are the people who were calling for Robins going to start calling for Lampard after 20 games if it carries on in this vein?
I know I won't, but I'm just hilighting the hypocrisy
His comments when Binks and Kitching were signed were that both were there to provide leadership, 'maturity beyond their years', talented on the ball etc etc. Qualities that plainly put neither have shown during their time here.I've changed my mind on a few things through this saga and apportioned blame on Robins for stuff I previously exonerated him for but it will take a lot to convince me that stripping the squad if experience is on him.
The 3 of them together put this squad together. MR with him pushing for Binks, Kitching, Asante and Rudoni, the scouting team for the other recommendations, even Viveash for Palmer, Collins and Dasilva you could argue. King with the cherry on top prioritising the ability to make a profit over everything else.
It doesn't go this badly wrong for it to just be one person's fault.
Lampard has his managerial career on the line here, I can see him at least making the argument. As for King, it depends on how much he stands to lose if things really went downhill from here.I don't know if that's 100% accurate but I think it's a fair assessment.
I just hope King allows Lampard to bring in some experience.
Lampard has his managerial career on the line here, I can see him at least making the argument. As for King, it depends on how much he stands to lose if things really went downhill from here.
I just think that some of the biggest piss takers in the squad need bombing out and replacing with consistent performers. If Collins really is starting on Thursday though, well, I don't know what to say.
Threw money at the previous manager who this season had shown no ability to get the best out of the players TBHMental to throw money at a manager who has shown no ability to get the best out of players TBH.
If that form (0.8 PPG) continues under Lampard for the 24 remaining games of this season then we'll finish with about 44 points and will likely be relegated. So yes, I'd expect people to call for Lampard to go under that scenario.
Threw money at the previous manager who this season had shown no ability to get the best out of the players TBH
I can't find my post but I'd worked out we have had one good 4.5 month spell in the league in something like 15-16 months of football.The fact remains from last summer's overhaul to now the squad has only sustained one period of decent form in the space of 1.5 seasons. Whatever Lampard said, there is no leadership at all out there to help when the tide is turning or to guide the more inexperienced players through.
We have assembled a group of technically talented players who shit the bed at the drop of a hat. What Chris Wilder said was so true-he can count on an acceptable minimum from his players every week, the Coventry manager whoever it is cannot.
20 games is almost half a season. To your final question I rather suspect that your hypocrisy comment would prove to be bollocks if Lampard's record over that period is identically bad compared to that of Robins .I'm happy to debate it either way, include or exclude last season.
But if you include the end of last season then Robins bad run started after we best Leeds, so 6 games.
Add that on to the 14 we got this season that's 20 games, are the people who were calling for Robins going to start calling for Lampard after 20 games if it carries on in this vein?
I know I won't, but I'm just hilighting the hypocrisy
Actually bang on .
People will be calling for Lampard to go if the next 10 games go badly, let alone 20.20 games is almost half a season. To your final question I rather suspect that your hypocrisy comment would prove to be bollocks if Lampard's record over that period is identically bad compared to that of Robins .
20 games is almost half a season. To your final question I rather suspect that your hypocrisy comment would prove to be bollocks if Lampard's record over that period is identically bad compared to that of Robins .
People will be calling for Lampard to go if the next 10 games go badly, let alone 20.
Actually bang on .
Disagree. I think Saturday’s performance was a new low. The only comparable game under Robins this season was the 3-0 defeat to Leeds but then you have to consider that Leeds are possibly the best team in the league while Portsmouth are one of the worst.100% Robins was sacked because we were putting in perfomances like yesterday most weeks, and then the same is happening under Lampard. We might has some nice attacking talent, but defensively the "deck" is shite.
Just actually read the conversation thread properly , consider the context and don't introduce variables not specific to the actual point being debatedLet’s see how we do this season before declaring 9th and a cup semi a disaster.
it’s been five games…At this rate we’ll be renewing Lampards contract cos it’s too early to tell.
He is a crybaby and cannot be reasoned withit’s been five games…
it’s been five games…
Disagree. I think Saturday’s performance was a new low. The only comparable game under Robins this season was the 3-0 defeat to Leeds but then you have to consider that Leeds are possibly the best team in the league while Portsmouth are one of the worst.
There were many mediocre performances this season but in general those games ended in a draw or losing by a goal. We also had some cracking performances, Oxford, Spurs, Watford, Luton and Middlesbrough being cases in point.
Would Robins have played Collins on Saturday? Doubtful, and by common consent it was Collins who was the architect of our downfall.
Robins has proved time and time again that he has the ability to turn things around. I think he would have done the same again this season. Making out that performances like Saturday were standard for the season under Robins is just factually wrong.
I accept he has gone. I want us to succeed under Lampard. But there’s no need to wrongly rewrite history.
Is this why you keep referring to last season only in terms of the 3-month period when we actually looked any good, rather than the season as a whole?
The season as a whole we played badly for two thirds of the season. So far we’ve been bad virtually all season.The season as a whole we finished 9th and got to a cup semi with what increasingly looks like a bunch of L1 players.
The season as a whole we played badly for two thirds of the season. So far we’ve been bad virtually all season.
Yes, because for one third of the season we were on 2 points a game or slightly better. The cup run aside from Wolves was pretty generous too.And still finished 9th and got a cup semi.
Shmeee back playing defence for Robins as soon as his turkey’s digestedAnd still finished 9th and got a cup semi.
Kitching has put on a few stone come to think of itShmeee back playing defence for Robins
Shmeee back playing defence for Robins as soon as his turkey’s digested
You yourself have questioned whether or not the one decent bit of form was just a flash in the pan and the truth is that we just don't have a good team.He's stated facts.
You may think that wasn't good enough, but that's what we achieved last season.
Or are you go and try and argue we didnt?
You yourself have questioned whether or not the one decent bit of form was just a flash in the pan and the truth is that we just don't have a good team.
The evidence supporting that view grows by the week up to the point where now half the season we have been playing poorly yet most still seem unconcerned by a relegation battle.
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