Where are ACL? (4 Viewers)

Astute

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He we go again 'sisu apologist'


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So what have they added to the thread other than taking it off subject?

Of course you won't answer as the 3 of you with a few others are always doing it.
 

stupot07

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So what have they added to the thread other than taking it off subject?

Of course you won't answer as the 3 of you with a few others are always doing it.

They may be wumming but that doesn't mean they are sisu apologists.

Me, I do it to play devils advocate, if it makes you feel better i do it at home too - it drives the missus nuts. I try not to wum anyone as I've been on the end of it and I didn't like it. See I did answer :p


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Astute

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They may be wumming but that doesn't mean they are sisu apologists.

Me, I do it to play devils advocate, if it makes you feel better i do it at home too - it drives the missus nuts. I try not to wum anyone as I've been on the end of it and I didn't like it. See I did answer :p


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And if I call them WUM's like I have in the past they will say they are not. Then some wonder why this site is going downhill very fast.

It is good to see both sides of the coin. But how can you have a serious debate with someone if they don't say what they believe? These are the same people that take threads off track to have a go at people that actually agree with their real thoughts.....but have a persona to keep up. And whilst doing this they stop people from posting as they feel that there are some waiting to jump on their back.
 

Grendel

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Ironically they actually are Shmmeee's beloved Sisu.

They've just had a bit of a lovers tiff at the minute, but he'll kiss and make up with them again soon.

I know him and Italia used to fight to crawl up the sisu orafice first - only to find Ginetta blocking the way
It's hysterical.
 

covmark

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Ah another SISU apologist taking the subject off track I see.
haha sisu apologist, oh dear. I wasn't wumming, the last post I read from you was an essay about your skyblue life followed by the fact that you weren't going to post here anymore. I guess you were just attention seeking
 

Grendel

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And if I call them WUM's like I have in the past they will say they are not. Then some wonder why this site is going downhill very fast.

It is good to see both sides of the coin. But how can you have a serious debate with someone if they don't say what they believe? These are the same people that take threads off track to have a go at people that actually agree with their real thoughts.....but have a persona to keep up. And whilst doing this they stop people from posting as they feel that there are some waiting to jump on their back.

Your right we need people contributing little else big say my beloved sisu - that is really helping the quality.
 

Astute

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haha sisu apologist, oh dear. I wasn't wumming, the last post I read from you was an essay about your skyblue life followed by the fact that you weren't going to post here anymore. I guess you were just attention seeking

No. Was how I felt at the time. And now feeling the same again with this normal bullshit. You may enjoy it. The vast majority of us don't. I went wrong by loitering on this site.....which is what I said I would be doing. I made the mistake of posting again and getting the stupid comments like what you have just done. Well done to you as well. Carry on like this and there will just be you few left. Just like what happened with GMK. I tip my hat to you. You are doing a good job of it if it is what you intended to do. This site is the main way for a lot of us to keep informed of what is going on. But what can we find out if you want to just turn every post and thread into an anti ACL thread?
 

Astute

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I know him and Italia used to fight to crawl up the sisu orafice first - only to find Ginetta blocking the way
It's hysterical.

Well said Grendull. As truthful as ever I see.
 

Covstu

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No. Was how I felt at the time. And now feeling the same again with this normal bullshit. You may enjoy it. The vast majority of us don't. I went wrong by loitering on this site.....which is what I said I would be doing. I made the mistake of posting again and getting the stupid comments like what you have just done. Well done to you as well. Carry on like this and there will just be you few left. Just like what happened with GMK. I tip my hat to you. You are doing a good job of it if it is what you intended to do. This site is the main way for a lot of us to keep informed of what is going on. But what can we find out if you want to just turn every post and thread into an anti ACL thread?

Personally I have not seen many anti ACL threads, I have seen a lot of people being very aggressive to people attending games saying they are wrong etc, there have been months of that and maybe people are slowly getting fed up with the same droaning threads which have actually convinced people to start attending games, maybe they can see that standing on the hill in protest isn't working and that the trust are not doing anything of stature to help the club back to Coventry??
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

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So who has ever said that ACL are guilt free? 99% of us know they are not. But 95% of us also know that SISU are more at fault than ACL. There is no ignorance that I have ever seen on this matter. But always see comments from yourself and about 6 others always having a go at ACL. It isn't as simple as that.

Only one side took us out of Coventry. Only one side......or shall we say Joy......won't get round the table and negotiate. Only one side was unhappy when CCC refinanced the mortgage on the Ricoh so the rent could be reduced to an affordable level for both sides. Only one side went for a judicial review. Only one side appealed once the judge figured out what they were up to. Only one side kept making comments when no comments should have been made during the administration process. Only one side has been proved to be lying by a judge.

Only one side can bring us back to Coventry. The other side is willing to talk. Do ACL need the money? We can only guess. Would SISU be better off bringing our club back to the Ricoh? Of course they would unless they are trying to send ACL to the wall.

You can keep on having a go at ACL. It won't help our cause. They won't be able to just give the ground to SISU. With the amount of effort you put into having a go at ACL all the time you would be of great benefit to our cause if you did the same against SISU.

Astute good to have you back- too many SISU apologist are afraid to stand behind their true beliefs and fall behind the 'equal blame' ambiguity argument... equal blame?..sorry not a hope in hell... to paraphrase the great Orwell....(again)

"All sides are to blame but some sides are more to blame than others"....In my opinion that is undoubtedly SISU.

If you see it the other way i.e ACL are more to blame just say so, come out of the closet.... its ok to have an opinion. Nail your colours to the mast. No harm done and if you change your opinion why is that a bad thing?, isnt that the responsible thing to do as an adult, if on your "journey" your conscience drives you to an alternate conclusion to one as held before?
Whatever view we hold now-or tomorrow, none of us will ever be proven to be right or wrong- because non of us will really truly ever know. Its just opinions?

Ultimately when this is all over- and one day it will be- for good or bad, irrespective of where we all presently stand in our opinions- lets please make sure we reunite and support CCFC in whatever guise they return to the city in; CCFC or CCFC1983 or...? For CCFC(?) will return at some point to this fair city, with a 32,000 seater stadium, football will once again play its part in this City's rich culture.

:blue:;)
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
No. Was how I felt at the time. And now feeling the same again with this normal bullshit. You may enjoy it. The vast majority of us don't. I went wrong by loitering on this site.....which is what I said I would be doing. I made the mistake of posting again and getting the stupid comments like what you have just done. Well done to you as well. Carry on like this and there will just be you few left. Just like what happened with GMK. I tip my hat to you. You are doing a good job of it if it is what you intended to do. This site is the main way for a lot of us to keep informed of what is going on. But what can we find out if you want to just turn every post and thread into an anti ACL thread?

You flouncing off like a great big girl again?
 

mark82

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The thread was started as a criticism of ACL so not sure why people criticising ACL on it is a problem. Both sides need to be held accountable.
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

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Yes... Nick I've asked before.. why is there no 'ACL OUT' emocion... I wouldnt use it of course from my ANTI SISU position(opinion) but to be fair there are some who might.... but then again when challenged most who might- just fall back on an "equal blame" ambigous response?
 

letsallsingtogether

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What is the point we now have the land sorted and a new ground is only weeks away so what have ACL got to do with it Fisher has stated today that they have no interest in thee Ricoh


Yes... Nick I've asked before.. why is there no 'ACL OUT' emocion... I wouldnt use it of course from my ANTI SISU position(opinion) but to be fair there are some who might.... but then again when challenged most who might- just fall back on an "equal blame" ambigous response?
 

Matty_CCFC

New Member
Yes... Nick I've asked before.. why is there no 'ACL OUT' emocion... I wouldnt use it of course from my ANTI SISU position(opinion) but to be fair there are some who might.... but then again when challenged most who might- just fall back on an "equal blame" ambigous response?

Why?
They are just a business getting the best deal for there clients.
They do no not need the club, they may want Coventry as they have the facilities but no longer aqctrually need them
 

Nick

Administrator
Yes... Nick I've asked before.. why is there no 'ACL OUT' emocion... I wouldnt use it of course from my ANTI SISU position(opinion) but to be fair there are some who might.... but then again when challenged most who might- just fall back on an "equal blame" ambigous response?

Nobody has requested one like they did the sisu one. People have given reasons for thinking acl have to shoulder some of the blame over and over again, most of the time people aren't anti or pro anybody they can see that nobody is innocent in all of this.

My favorite is that there is no way sisu should own a stadium as they will charge us high rent and they will be baddies but when acl.charged is high rent it was sisus fault for agreeing to it.

I think if people tried to look at all sides of it (you can without being pro or anti anybody) then people would see other bits they don't want to.

I don't think there is actually anybody pro sisu on here but the most hard core sisu out people used to love them...
 

Spionkop

New Member
Remind us again, what was the name of the company that took our football club out of the city?
ACL are surely not blameless, I'd apportion them about 10% of blame, but ooohh, what's the name of the reallllly bad guys?
Been known to lie, steal, cheat, even bluster and harm eagles and turkeys.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
Nobody has requested one like they did the sisu one. People have given reasons for thinking acl have to shoulder some of the blame over and over again, most of the time people aren't anti or pro anybody they can see that nobody is innocent in all of this.

My favorite is that there is no way sisu should own a stadium as they will charge us high rent and they will be baddies but when acl.charged is high rent it was sisus fault for agreeing to it.

I think if people tried to look at all sides of it (you can without being pro or anti anybody) then people would see other bits they don't want to.

I don't think there is actually anybody pro sisu on here but the most hard core sisu out people used to love them...

Well said Nick. That is exactly the point. People seem blinded by hate for Sisu. I have to admit I was for a while, but the silence from ACL should tell you everything you need to know.

Wonder what will happen to the Ricoh now? Surely cannot sustain itself without a primary tenant.
 

Nick

Administrator
Remind us again, what was the name of the company that took our football club out of the city?
ACL are surely not blameless, I'd apportion them about 10% of blame, but ooohh, what's the name of the reallllly bad guys?
Been known to lie, steal, cheat, even bluster and harm eagles and turkeys.

You don't get it, where has anybody said sisu have done nothing wrong or said it is right that we have been moved?

Remind us again of the company who charged us stupid amounts of rent with no income and refused to lower it and only started to budge slightly when it looked like the club were moving out?

People mostly say all sides have to take some of the blame so the action should be aimed at everyone rather than just sisu.to keep the pressure on, but some people don't grasp that with their blind hate.
 

Steve.B50

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Nobody has requested one like they did the sisu one. People have given reasons for thinking acl have to shoulder some of the blame over and over again, most of the time people aren't anti or pro anybody they can see that nobody is innocent in all of this.

My favorite is that there is no way sisu should own a stadium as they will charge us high rent and they will be baddies but when acl.charged is high rent it was sisus fault for agreeing to it.

I think if people tried to look at all sides of it (you can without being pro or anti anybody) then people would see other bits they don't want to.

I don't think there is actually anybody pro sisu on here but the most hard core sisu out people used to love them...


Good Comment Nick !
 

Sky Blue Kid

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Covstu......"maybe they can see that standing on the hill in protest isn't working and that the trust are not doing anything of stature to help the club back to Coventry??">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And the ones who go into Sixfields are??????
 

Sky Blue Kid

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Nick says.........What does this thread actually benefit? It would be the same if it said "where are ACL?">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hang on a sec! isn't there a thread that says that already???....Be careful guys, I've had a thread closed called Where are SISU? Closed because of complaints from other posters,(Pro SISU by any chance?)
 

Nick

Administrator
Nick says.........What does this thread actually benefit? It would be the same if it said "where are ACL?">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hang on a sec! isn't there a thread that says that already???....Be careful guys, I've had a thread closed called Where are SISU? Closed because of complaints from other posters,(Pro SISU by any chance?)

Or just fed up of your arrows?
 

Sky Blue Kid

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@ Astute...You're right mate. Because some posters don't like a thread, Uncle Nick closes it down!...What happened to freedom of speech? I said nothing derogatory, or didn't swear at anyone (The one who did swear gets away with it) Anyway, for a forum where the Owner and moderators show their true colours, and close threads because they don't agree with the content(Once again, nothing offensive or personal in it)......Does it remind you of other forum sites, "GMK" "CET forum"..............................................."Big Brother or what!"
 

Sky Blue Kid

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Nick...Or just fed up of your arrows?/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////Is that better?
 

covmark

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@ Astute...You're right mate. Because some posters don't like a thread, Uncle Nick closes it down!...What happened to freedom of speech? I said nothing derogatory, or didn't swear at anyone (The one who did swear gets away with it) Anyway, for a forum where the Owner and moderators show their true colours, and close threads because they don't agree with the content(Once again, nothing offensive or personal in it)......Does it remind you of other forum sites, "GMK" "CET forum"..............................................."Big Brother or what!"
what are you going on about, seems though you're suffering from a bout of verbal diarrhea my friend
 

Nick

Administrator
@ Astute...You're right mate. Because some posters don't like a thread, Uncle Nick closes it down!...What happened to freedom of speech? I said nothing derogatory, or didn't swear at anyone (The one who did swear gets away with it) Anyway, for a forum where the Owner and moderators show their true colours, and close threads because they don't agree with the content(Once again, nothing offensive or personal in it)......Does it remind you of other forum sites, "GMK" "CET forum"..............................................."Big Brother or what!"

Does it not say something that all forums probably ban you?

It isn't freedom of speech, it is just pointless. Read the forum rules. If it had an actual point it would stay.

It wasn't that I didn't agree with the content, there was no content to disagree with.

It is just pointless ranting about nothing trying to cause trouble. It is people like you that ruin forums. If you don't like it, delete your account.
 

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