Where now Mr Khan? (1 Viewer)
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johnniericoh
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Yes, all the hype, dreams, hopes are now firmly on the back burner as the result of his this latest bout with the ref clearly not helping the cause BUT Amir should have put this guy away comfortably.
My estimation that he was going to be a superstar cannot now be fullfilled - he has been exposed as good but not very good - keeps getting severely tagged when attempting to brawl.
Should have used the jab more and kept his distance then counter with swift combinations.
Quite where Amir goes from here is debatable - the big pay cheques may not now be attainable in the near future and he may have to start again to gain credibility as a worthy contender.
Amir reminds me of Ricky Hatton who reached a certain level but could not bridge that gap to superstardom.
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My estimation that he was going to be a superstar cannot now be fullfilled - he has been exposed as good but not very good - keeps getting severely tagged when attempting to brawl.
Should have used the jab more and kept his distance then counter with swift combinations.
Quite where Amir goes from here is debatable - the big pay cheques may not now be attainable in the near future and he may have to start again to gain credibility as a worthy contender.
Amir reminds me of Ricky Hatton who reached a certain level but could not bridge that gap to superstardom.
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Kuklinski
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The main difference being Ricky Hatton lost to the two best fighters at his weight division in the world, two of the best of all time, whereas Khan lost to two fighters that will never be classed any where near the best of their division, let alone going down in history a-la Mayweather and Pacquiao.
Forget the hype, Khan is a good fighter, but that's it. He lost to Prescott who most had never heard of at the time, and he's now lost to a guy ranked number 12 in the world. He is a poor loser, and disrespectful to his opponents. Talking of taking on Mayweather should cease now.
johnniericoh
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kuklinski,
Good observation ref Hatton's two losses compared to Amir's; I now cannot see him giving creditable opposition to Mayweather and / or the Pacman as he was and still is very vulnerable against accurate big punchers.
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Good observation ref Hatton's two losses compared to Amir's; I now cannot see him giving creditable opposition to Mayweather and / or the Pacman as he was and still is very vulnerable against accurate big punchers.
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SkyBlueScottie
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If I was Khan I would take the rematch that he has already been offered, without the points deductions he would have won. Best thing for young fighters is to lose, as long as you learn and come back better from it, which Khan has done once. Hamed could not cope with having lost, and ultimately lost his way.
As for his career being over.... no chance, this is boxing, he has a good trainer behind him and a big strong promotion backing him.
As for his career being over.... no chance, this is boxing, he has a good trainer behind him and a big strong promotion backing him.
Covstu
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i agree he should rematch but saying that 'without the points deduction he would have won' is like saying if we scored two more goals on saturday we would have won! I have a friend who i play golf with and he comes out with the if i did not put those two balls in the water i would have gotten a par! Pointless!!!
Kuklinski
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Amir is a sore loser. He was warned repeatedly in each round regarding his constant pushing. It was a close fight but the points deducted and subsequent loss were merited.
He is fast but not that good a boxer - most of his fights have been handpicked to flatter him. He talks about wanting to fight Mayweather - but I think he is deeply delusional. Maybe he should try a rematch with Breidis Prescott 1st.
He is fast but not that good a boxer - most of his fights have been handpicked to flatter him. He talks about wanting to fight Mayweather - but I think he is deeply delusional. Maybe he should try a rematch with Breidis Prescott 1st.
rob9872
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Do any of you really know how boxing works?
His camp and pr are savvy enough to know that it won't be overturned and that this changes nothing. This is merely part of the spin exercise to 'prove' it was a miscarriage and and that the long awaited grudge rematch will generate an even bigger purse for the cash-cow of both fighters. They have turned him into the victim and the crowd will be on his side, not in Washington, probably Vegas.
His camp and pr are savvy enough to know that it won't be overturned and that this changes nothing. This is merely part of the spin exercise to 'prove' it was a miscarriage and and that the long awaited grudge rematch will generate an even bigger purse for the cash-cow of both fighters. They have turned him into the victim and the crowd will be on his side, not in Washington, probably Vegas.
Kuklinski
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I think I know how boxing works having fought 127 amateur bouts and winning 115 of them.
It's never Khan's fault is it? He should accept he was beat, simple. The only surprise is he hasn't claimed Prescott had a horse shoe in his glove when he sent Khan into the middle of next week.
It's never Khan's fault is it? He should accept he was beat, simple. The only surprise is he hasn't claimed Prescott had a horse shoe in his glove when he sent Khan into the middle of next week.
Disorganised1
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Do you think it was a 2 point deduction ? Can't see it myself.
LastGarrison
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Rematch allegedly confirmed.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jan/07/amir-khan-mystery-man-rematch
I think Khan was well within his right to question who this chap is and clearly he shouldn't have been where he was regardless of the result. For said chap to then be seem in the ring celebrating with Peterson is slightly suspicious.
On the flip side as said Khan ignored the ref's warnings so can't really complain and paid for going into this fight overlooking Peterson.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jan/07/amir-khan-mystery-man-rematch
I think Khan was well within his right to question who this chap is and clearly he shouldn't have been where he was regardless of the result. For said chap to then be seem in the ring celebrating with Peterson is slightly suspicious.
On the flip side as said Khan ignored the ref's warnings so can't really complain and paid for going into this fight overlooking Peterson.
rob9872
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Obviously your way of being able to get in about your boxing record, but that wasn't the question I asked. The pro game works completely different and I don't mean the rules, the fighters or even boxing itself but the wealthy and corrupt money men that surround it.
Astounded that a record of 115/127 at amateur level would never have tried going pro at any stage during that. Assume you never went to the Olympics either? Seems odd unless you were in the armed forces.
Astounded that a record of 115/127 at amateur level would never have tried going pro at any stage during that. Assume you never went to the Olympics either? Seems odd unless you were in the armed forces.
Kuklinski
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My ability was never going to make me enough money at pro level to make it worthwhile turning pro. Only a select few are lucky enough to make a very good living at the professional game.
I decided it would be more worthwhile training & fighting to keep myself in condition, and doing some personal training to top up my income amongst other interests.
Turning pro is no guarantee of the path to riches, and I was bright enough to recognise this.
LastGarrison
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I'd say that you're clearly lying about your amateur record then............
We'll_live_and_die
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Maybe you could tell us your name so we can look at your amateur records. I'll be honest and say that is an astounding record and I would be impressed to view your fight stats.
LastGarrison
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Wasn't Mayweather 60 something with 6 losses and Hatton 50 odd with 5 losses.
For you to have that many amateur fights, where the scoring is much more subjective, and win over 90% of them is pretty good going for someone with, as you put it, limited ability.
Did you fight the same chap 127 times?
For you to have that many amateur fights, where the scoring is much more subjective, and win over 90% of them is pretty good going for someone with, as you put it, limited ability.
Did you fight the same chap 127 times?
DH - Sky Blue
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He was always the red one
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LastGarrison
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Ha ha {cringe}.
LastGarrison
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Rematch confirmed for 19 May at Mandalay Bay.
We'll_live_and_die
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I wish he would fight over here. It'll be on dead late again and I aint staying up to watch it.
LastGarrison
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He did well to wangle a re-match so don't think he is any position to try and negotiate for the fight to be over here as much as we'd like it to be.
I missed the first so will definitely be staying up for this one. Will be interesting to see how the fight goes and whether Roach has been working on Khan's inside fighting.
I missed the first so will definitely be staying up for this one. Will be interesting to see how the fight goes and whether Roach has been working on Khan's inside fighting.
We'll_live_and_die
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I haven't seen Khan fight for a while as I personally don't see him as a good value PPV fighter. Looking forwards to the prize fighters this weekend.
mark82
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Don't think the original Khan-Peterson fight was on PPV
We'll_live_and_die
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No but as per my prior post " I aint staying up that late to watch it".
SkyBlueScottie
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I get the feeling that the IBF dont really want Khan as their Champion......