Who was saying he didnt want to come ? (1 Viewer)

ccfcway

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COVENTRY City missed out on another of their prime targets yesterday as the club’s transfer embargo sabotaged manager Andy Thorn’s rebuilding plans for the second time in the space of a few days.

Having seen Bradford midfielder David Syers sign up for Doncaster Rovers on Friday, Thorn suffered a fresh and even bigger blow when Shrewsbury striker James Collins opted to join Swindon Town.

It was a particularly depressing setback because Cov Kid Collins was keen on joining the club he supported as a schoolboy and still holds dear to him.

And supporters will be alarmed at the Sky Blues’ inability to compete for free-transfer prospects while owners Sisu stall on confirming a budget, leaving City in trading limbo.

The former City Academy player, who made his name with 16 goals to help Shrewsbury gain promotion from League Two last season, is understood to have been Thorn’s top striking target to spearhead his team’s attack alongside Cody McDonald.

It is understood that up until last week he was all set to sign for his boyhood club but despite assurances that the club were coming out of their transfer embargo, Collins couldn’t wait any longer and opted to join Paolo Di Canio, who also announced the signing of 17-goal Andy Williams from Yeovil and winger Gary Roberts from Huddersfield at a press conference yesterday afternoon.
 

ccfcway

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oh, forgot this bit !!


The 21-year-old’s agent Joe Kennedy confirmed: “He had various options and there were talks with Andy Thorn.

"James has always spoken highly of the club.

"It’s his boyhood club and somewhere that has a special place in his career and he would like to go back there and it was definitely an option for him to sign for them this year.”

Collins’ decision could affect the club’s bid to convince centre-back pairing Richard Keogh and Martin Cranie to sign new contracts.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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COVENTRY City missed out on another of their prime targets yesterday as the club’s transfer embargo sabotaged manager Andy Thorn’s rebuilding plans for the second time in the space of a few days.

Having seen Bradford midfielder David Syers sign up for Doncaster Rovers on Friday, Thorn suffered a fresh and even bigger blow when Shrewsbury striker James Collins opted to join Swindon Town.

It was a particularly depressing setback because Cov Kid Collins was keen on joining the club he supported as a schoolboy and still holds dear to him.

And supporters will be alarmed at the Sky Blues’ inability to compete for free-transfer prospects while owners Sisu stall on confirming a budget, leaving City in trading limbo.

The former City Academy player, who made his name with 16 goals to help Shrewsbury gain promotion from League Two last season, is understood to have been Thorn’s top striking target to spearhead his team’s attack alongside Cody McDonald.

It is understood that up until last week he was all set to sign for his boyhood club but despite assurances that the club were coming out of their transfer embargo, Collins couldn’t wait any longer and opted to join Paolo Di Canio, who also announced the signing of 17-goal Andy Williams from Yeovil and winger Gary Roberts from Huddersfield at a press conference yesterday afternoon.

No need to worry - everyone is working hard to get the embargo lifted!!
 

ccfcway

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"we're going down, BANG BANG
SISU dont pay for the ground, BANG BANG
We dont have a pound, BANG BANG
SISU are taking us down....

BANG BANG, BANG BANG"
 

Donnie Brasco

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This is a complete joke. I know some of you blindly support CCFC till you die, but this isn't CCFC this is SISU destroying something that was once great.
 

Astute

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This is probably not a player that doesn't want to join us. It is a player that is after another club, and one of the clubs he is interested in can't offer him a contract to sign.

What agent would advise a player to wait for us to get out of our embargo so they could join us? Why have an agent if you don't listen to them?
 

aodea

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Sigh. It shows that we really are between a rock and a hard place. There will be nobody left by time transfer embargo gets lifted if it gets lifted. Best of luck to him at swindon. Cant blame a lad for putting his future first and working with paulo Di Canio seems more attractive than working with Andrew Thorn.
 

dongonzalos

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Sigh. It shows that we really are between a rock and a hard place. There will be nobody left by time transfer embargo gets lifted if it gets lifted. Best of luck to him at swindon. Cant blame a lad for putting his future first and working with paulo Di Canio seems more attractive than working with Andrew Thorn.

Classic,

So the whole article is about how our owners stalling on getting us out of a transfer embargo has led to us losing a player who wanted to come to us.

You make the above comment.
 

Disorganised1

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Can I despair yet ? :(
 

valiant15

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I seem to be the only that couldn't care less about us trying to sign yet more lower league nobodys,we tried that in the championship,look where it got us. Yes i know were skint blah blah. If only shitsu would spend some of the millions that they've got for the stadium eh.
 

Astute

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I seem to be the only that couldn't care less about us trying to sign yet more lower league nobodys,we tried that in the championship,look where it got us. Yes i know were skint blah blah. If only shitsu would spend some of the millions that they've got for the stadium eh.

We are lower league now. Do you expect us to sign only Prem and Championship players?

It would be good just to be able to sign someone at the minute. If they could score goals it would be a massive bonus.
 

valiant15

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Experienced championship players yes. Are we serious about getting out of this league or not? We've tried flooding the team with players from the league below before. It doesn't work. Put it this way,if we were a championship team going for promotion to the prem would you fill squad with players from league 1? We're not getting out of this league for years,if ever imo,well not with these scumbags in charge.
 

Grendel

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Experienced championship players yes. Are we serious about getting out of this league or not? We've tried flooding the team with players from the league below before. It doesn't work. Put it this way,if we were a championship team going for promotion to the prem would you fill squad with players from league 1? We're not getting out of this league for years,if ever imo,well not with these scumbags in charge.

We are in League One so the correct analysis is a club in the championship needs championship players. We therefore need League One players. Norwich were promoted and survived in the Premiership with a squad with no experience at that level. We will sign League One players and we will do well.
 

Astute

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If we couldn't afford Championship players whilst we were in the Championship how are we supposed to afford them in Div3?
 

valiant15

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I thought these 2 were league 2. What makes you so sure we will do well? Where's the evidence to suggest we will? Ffs we cant even sign players from league 2. Get your head out of the sand.
 

Grendel

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If we couldn't afford Championship players whilst we were in the Championship how are we supposed to afford them in Div3?

We can't and on this I agree with you. Players like McSheffrey, Bell, Baker, Cameron, Wood, Hussey, Clark will all do very well in this league. We definately need new strikers but people should spend some time analysing some squads in this league, they look very poor to me.
 

valiant15

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A bit like when we came down from the prem and thought the squads in the championship were poor? Now look wherw we are.
 

Astute

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We can't and on this I agree with you. Players like McSheffrey, Bell, Baker, Cameron, Wood, Hussey, Clark will all do very well in this league. We definately need new strikers but people should spend some time analysing some squads in this league, they look very poor to me.

Absolutely spot on.

We need to cover some positions and replace lost players with players that can occasionally score. A striker or two would be a good place to start.
 

Astute

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A bit like when we came down from the prem and thought the squads in the championship were poor? Now look wherw we are.

You mean after we lost our Championship squad before the start of last season and never replaced them?
 

dongonzalos

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We can't and on this I agree with you. Players like McSheffrey, Bell, Baker, Cameron, Wood, Hussey, Clark will all do very well in this league. We definately need new strikers but people should spend some time analysing some squads in this league, they look very poor to me.


Thats where you are right, those type of players should give us an advantage. Also their wages dont count towards to FFP.

However that is only an advantage if you then have a squad. Supplement them with the free transfers the Collin's, the Sear's.

This is where it is frustrating. We have a real opportunity for the first time in 10 years to finaly taste some success, and it seems they wont even give us the free transfers to do it, such a shame!
 

SkyBlueM

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Perhaps the club will have to have some open trial days at Ryton - anyone with a pair of boots who fancies a go and doesn't want paying more than the minimum wage can turn up and AT will pick the best 15 or so to complete the squad for the new season :)
 

dongonzalos

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And i mentioned that if we ever get it lifted we will have no players to pick up. Whats your point? I realise he wanted to play for us but you cant wait around for ever.

It was a clear dig at Thorn. Yet there was no mention in the article that he wanted to work for Di Canio over Thorn. Thats my point.
 

aodea

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Classic,

So the whole article is about how our owners stalling on getting us out of a transfer embargo has led to us losing a player who wanted to come to us.

You make the above comment.

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And i mentioned that if we ever get it lifted we will have no players to pick up. Whats your point? I realise he wanted to play for us but you cant wait around for ever.​
 

valiant15

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I have no confidence in the likes of bell,baker,mcsheffrey etc. If anything i think theyll be even worse thinking they're to good for this league. I have no faith in sisu to pay for any new player or bring any in on free's whatsoever and i have no faith in thorn we would under normal circumstances be lucky to get a job managing a sunday pub team.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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Perhaps the club will have to have some open trial days at Ryton - anyone with a pair of boots who fancies a go and doesn't want paying more than the minimum wage can turn up and AT will pick the best 15 or so to complete the squad for the new season :)

That's just stupid!

You think he'd be allowed to have 15............
 

ICHAN

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We can't and on this I agree with you. Players like McSheffrey, Bell, Baker, Cameron, Wood, Hussey, Clark will all do very well in this league. We definately need new strikers but people should spend some time analysing some squads in this league, they look very poor to me.

If some of these teams look very poor to you, what will that make us when we get beat by some of these very poor teams.

Surely no-one really believes this is going to be a stroll in the park, even if AT is given money?
Remember going down from the prem, people saying we will be back next year etc, well 10 years of struggling and under achieving we finally get relegated again, 10 years time of under achieving will we be saying the same again?
 

mark82

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I have no confidence in the likes of bell,baker,mcsheffrey etc. If anything i think theyll be even worse thinking they're to good for this league. I have no faith in sisu to pay for any new player or bring any in on free's whatsoever and i have no faith in thorn we would under normal circumstances be lucky to get a job managing a sunday pub team.

Nigel Adkins was a physio at Scunthorpe before he was promoted to manager. He was relegated a couple of times with Scunthorpe with squads that were arguably much better than we had last year. He is now managing Southampton in the Premier League. I expect you would say he has no right to be a manager.
 

mark82

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If some of these teams look very poor to you, what will that make us when we get beat by some of these very poor teams.

Surely no-one really believes this is going to be a stroll in the park, even if AT is given money?
Remember going down from the prem, people saying we will be back next year etc, well 10 years of struggling and under achieving we finally get relegated again, 10 years time of under achieving will we be saying the same again?

Won't be a stroll in the park but most clubs would kill for some of the players we still have. Yes we need to add to it, and add to it well, but the core of a good league 1 team is already there. It will all come down to the embargo being removed and getting some bulk to the squad. If that doesn't happen who knows where we could be. We may at times not be able to field a complete team/squad.
 

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