Astute
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Was that nobody wanted it or was it didn't want to pay the full asking price?
Or was it ever for sale?
Was that nobody wanted it or was it didn't want to pay the full asking price?No. Stadium is too big and we are too poor to buy it or create a team that will fill it.
Wasps bought a piece of real estate no one else wanted. If us not owning the Ricoh is damaging (and I don't think it is for reasons stated) then it was our choice not to go after it that did the damage.
If I choose not to buy an umbrella, it's not the guy who does buy it's fault I get wet.
No. Stadium is too big and we are too poor to buy it or create a team that will fill it.
Wasps bought a piece of real estate no one else wanted. If us not owning the Ricoh is damaging (and I don't think it is for reasons stated) then it was our choice not to go after it that did the damage.
If I choose not to buy an umbrella, it's not the guy who does buy it's fault I get wet.
3) there's already a main tenant at the arena who needs all the naming rights themselves.
No chance.
It was nothing to do with that.
No they bought a football stadium built for the Club we support remember. Were we ever offered a 250 deal at the same price? Not that you'll care. SiSU OUT!!
How many times have you said that? Shop in the concourse for instance. Never happen according to you.
There may well be a main tenant but it's their tenant (CCFC) who can bring the main exposure and increase the potential revenue from that. This is what's happened with West Ham. They dont get all the naming rights but they do get some and it's been directly attributed to the increased value that they brought to the table by being a tenant at the stadium. They have a rental agreement not so different from our's (match day use only and no income from other events) plus the right's to the revenue streams on match days and naming rights. All things that could be negotiated under the right circumstances. Circumstances that dont seem to include SISU.
Why you keep perusing this line of nonsense is beyond me.
Have you actually read the contract was ham have? It's nothing like ours
“If this matter cannot be resolved by the turn of the year, then I and all of my colleagues on the Labour group on Coventry City Council will look to put in place a process which ensures the best possible deal for the people of Coventry in relation to the Ricoh Arena.”
This for me was the turning point.
This is when we should have bid if we were serious.
Unfortunately I think we felt the council had no other options so we only had one to plan to starve out ACL (IMO)
It was that decision that caused this damage and let Wasps in.
Was that nobody wanted it or was it didn't want to pay the full asking price?
Or was it ever for sale?
What did we try to negotiate after we were invited to and AL went to see JS on the train? Who's fault is that. We were never going to get offered a deal that was negotiated under a confidentiality agreement. Why you keep perusing this line of nonsense is beyond me.
When we came back Tim Fisher immediately said that it was temporary and that we were still building our own stadium. Council at fault or Sisu at fault?What about when we came back and CCC hinted at future ownership?
Despite SISU there was no excuse to sell the stadium to Wasps. Remember Lucas saying no team should be ripped from its community. She obviously didn't mean Wasps.
I wont go into her statement regarding only agreeing to sale as she'd had assurances indigenous teams wouldn't be adversely affected.
Pardon my French but that was bollocks although I'm sure you can spin it differently.
Unfortunately they'd already sold to wasps well before then
Both.When we came back Tim Fisher immediately said that it was temporary and that we were still building our own stadium. Council at fault or Sisu at fault?
That statement was October 2013
What date did they sell to Wasps?
Spot on stupot. Everything that SISU had done, no matter how bad, was reversible to that point. New owners could have come in and there could have been a brighter future. Now we either have the next 250 years making do with what scraps Wasps will throw our way or someone has to stump up millions for a new stadium.Yes of course renting the stadium will damage the club. We can blame sisu all we want but selling to wasps was the final nail in the sky blue coffin that will almost certainly be irreversible.
If that was the case why did they waste money on shit players instead of starting on taking the 50% of ACL?Sisu only took ccfc on for the land around the ground.
Talks with derek Richardson started a year before that about acquiring the property I would say.
If that was the case why did they waste money on shit players instead of starting on taking the 50% of ACL?
Have you actually read the contract was ham have? It's nothing like ours and the stadium owner isn't a sports franchise so the comparison is irrelevant.
As for naming rights we have no influence on that at all and we are a league one club. The only chance of having a really rights deal is as a premier league club. Given these deals last 10 years what do you think wasps will do - tie up a deal and if we end up in the premier league lob a bit our way?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/sep/15/west-ham-details-olympic-stadium-dealThese things tend to be confidential.
Talks with derek Richardson started a year before that about acquiring the property I would say.
I haven't read the West Ham contract. I doubt you have either. These things tend to be confidential. Only know what's been disclosed to the media and that is pretty much as I've described it.
The comparison isn't irrelevant. Regardless of it's a sports franchise or not both parties need to maximize revenue. It's the crux of their business so the comparison is totally relevant.
Of course we have an influence on naming rights. We give the Ricoh exposure and that is the point of naming rights. No I don't expect Wasps to "lob a bit our way" if we reach the premier league. Same as l don't expect West Ham to hand any back if they get relegated. Why do you talk such nonsense.
That probably explains why I haven't read the contract. Doesn't explain how Grendull apparently has.
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