letsallsingtogether
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I was thinking more her choice 
With Just a Little Success Our Club Could Really Take Off... (2 Viewers)
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mds
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I cant believe any football fan could honestly need to be sold the benefits of the Premier League over Championship football, its right there, Premiere League Football.
Seriously, as a fan?
letsallsingtogether
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SkyBlue_Bear83
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It's always a question I've asked myself, I've been supporting for about 11 years and I've always thought is our support just generally poorer compared to other clubs of similar size or is it because they've been worn down over the years of the club consistently performing from average to very poor in their respective division
Samo
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I don't understand it at all. Aim for the dizzy heights of mediocrity and then hope against hope that we don't accidentally make the play offs?
I'd prefer to lose regularly in the prem than in L1 while watching some of the best players in the world. And if we got relegated there are parachute payments and a good chance of championship promotion push.
At least something is happening ffs.
Would I rather piss about mid championship for all eternity? No I fucking wouldn't!
fernandopartridge
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It's a genuine question.
fernandopartridge
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Samo
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Please see my previous post.
Samo
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Convenient team choices... How about Man City than say Rotherham? Or Chelsea than say Brentford?
Grendel
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The marketing gurus have done a great job which I think is ferns point.
Crystal palace vs stoke
Burnley vs hull
West ham vs Sunderland
West brom vs Swansea
Leicester vs Qpr
Half the fixtures as above is hardly the best league in the world.
Its contributed to the worsening of the national team and pays obscene salaries to many mediocre players - it's certainly not the best league in the world
fernandopartridge
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I've seen City play Chelsea and Man City more than the other teams you mention. As a City fan what is so great about playing them now?
Samo
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I've no argument with any of that. But Fern's point was that he would rather we rose no further than the championship and I cannot understand that stunted ambition. Its a little like taking up golf but deliberately trying to be a bit shit so you never have to play anyone really good.
And by the way, those fixtures you mention are all the more reason we should aim to be there.
stupot07
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No not really, I don't consider myself hardcore, and don't resent the part timers coming out for a big day. I just get frustrated by them, had they turned up a little more often we probably wouldn't be where we are now.
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Hobo
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Very few teams have had the long run of mediocracy Coventry fans have had to endure. I have seen Southampton, Derby Wolves, Villa Forest Wednesday Blackburn Leeds Leicester...all have piss poor gates yet all have more success for us.
i can understand why some have drifted away, we have not been the most affluent city over the years. Grendel said our ticket prices were one of the cheapest the other night, but a survey taking in disposable income of fans shows we are one of the most expensive.
People like Fernado really piss me off, because they crow about fair weather support and then when the fans turn out they are just glory hunters.
The club has a good potential fan base, the club needs to be more positive and competitive and shake the survival will do attitude. Regular flirtatious with success and a belief in entertaining football will bring people back.
fernandopartridge
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It's not that I don't want City playing at the 'top' it's more about what the current top is and what it represents. The whole thing is overhyped in order to sell TV rights. The attending paying fan is an after thought.
mds
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Which are the great leagues, the ones where every week its a "big" game, played by "big" teams?
Samo
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Would you like to answer my earlier question first and tell me when these periods of fair weather occurred that our fairweather fans have been enjoying?
Samo
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Well that I cant dispute. We've been well looked after in L1 though right?
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bigfatronssba
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If you defended the right of the individual to go or not go to Sixfields then the same has to apply now and in the past.
To say it was an individual's right to go against the majority and attend sixfields but then bemoan people who for whatever reason don't go to a Ricoh game is hypocritical.
To say it was an individual's right to go against the majority and attend sixfields but then bemoan people who for whatever reason don't go to a Ricoh game is hypocritical.
fernandopartridge
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34 years in the top flight with a cup win in the middle?
Only in your opinion, just one of many examples. Try and chill-out and not to be so rude & offensive.
Football is all about opinions.
Samo
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Yes the sun did come out briefly in 87 but that aside I think its very harsh to call fans fairweather considering the crumbs they've been given to feed any devotion.
bigfatronssba
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Which did increase attendances as you would expect.
Hype from Scudamore, when will he be strong enough to admisiter domestic points reduction to those sides breaching FIFA - FFP rules?
IE. Man. City fined £49 million & enforced Champions League squad reduction (from 25 to 21).
They should have started this domestic season with at least a 3 or 6 point deduction for breaching those rules but unfortunately those running the game are in the pockets of their pay masters.
Tragic and it's gradually killing the game, as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Where will it end? In disaster IMHO!
bigfatronssba
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We all hear about how fans want to watch a winning team, win more games, the more enjoyable it is as a fan (to some extent regardless of the division).
Below is a list I come across of the long serving FL clubs points per game ratio over their history. Teams like Fleetwood etc aren't included as for a clear picture you need to see it over a long period. We don't fair well at all:
Club Points Per Game
1 Manchester U 1.364262747
2 Liverpool 1.336340504
3 Arsenal 1.307033781
4 Ipswich Town 1.246938776
5 Leeds United 1.239800167
6 Chelsea 1.236308316
7 Peterborough U 1.235755574
8 Reading 1.214547357
9 Tottenham Hot 1.206436421
10 Millwall 1.199840975
11 Everton 1.178812416
12 Scunthorpe U 1.178270042
13 Huddersfield T 1.178247734
14 Manchester C 1.176296633
15 Newcastle U 1.17478181
16 Sheffield U 1.172413793
17 Colchester U 1.170266379
18 Aston Villa 1.170031404
19 Brentford 1.166188364
20 Brighton 1.165479018
21 Bristol City 1.165124884
22 Queens Park Ra 1.162154846
23 Sunderland 1.153966132
24 Wolverhampton W 1.153579176
25 Bournemouth 1.152565136
26 Swindon Town 1.152293578
27 Plymouth Argyle 1.151955603
28 Tranmere Rovers 1.150421496
29 Cardiff City 1.145591804
30 Preston North E 1.14261242
31 Norwich City 1.140718563
32 Hull City 1.139635317
33 Southampton 1.139244024
34 Watford 1.138742072
35 Blackburn R 1.136092056
36 West Ham United 1.135833333
37 Shrewsbury Town 1.134429746
38 Bristol Rovers 1.132100396
39 Crystal Palace 1.131847476
40 Nottingham For 1.128542736
41 Sheffield Wed 1.12759313
42 Chesterfield 1.127237542
43 Swansea City 1.127229172
44 Northampton T 1.126506024
45 Southend United 1.125714286
46 Burnley 1.124865447
47 West Bromwich 1.123634775
48 Gillingham 1.122032027
49 Fulham 1.121410579
50 Bolton W 1.120140567
51 Rotherham U 1.119453925
52 Charlton Ath 1.116991643
53 Birmingham City 1.114215467
54 Derby County 1.113496933
55 Leicester City 1.11045722
56 Oldham Athletic 1.107931118
57 Middlesbrough 1.105737316
58 Blackpool 1.104487761
59 Portsmouth 1.101824122
60 Bury 1.101709776
61 Stoke City 1.10102183
62 Bradford City 1.100440733
63 Carlisle United 1.09751773
64 Notts County 1.091780239
65 Port Vale 1.090148699
66 Walsall 1.087129699
67 Barnsley 1.08027884
68 Doncaster R 1.075056433
69 Coventry City 1.074344417
70 York City 1.069367909
71 Rochdale 1.06005291
72 Crewe Alexandra 1.050346776
73 Leyton Orient 1.050191205
74 Hartlepool Utd 1.035864979
75 Exeter City 1.029615278
Below is a list I come across of the long serving FL clubs points per game ratio over their history. Teams like Fleetwood etc aren't included as for a clear picture you need to see it over a long period. We don't fair well at all:
Club Points Per Game
1 Manchester U 1.364262747
2 Liverpool 1.336340504
3 Arsenal 1.307033781
4 Ipswich Town 1.246938776
5 Leeds United 1.239800167
6 Chelsea 1.236308316
7 Peterborough U 1.235755574
8 Reading 1.214547357
9 Tottenham Hot 1.206436421
10 Millwall 1.199840975
11 Everton 1.178812416
12 Scunthorpe U 1.178270042
13 Huddersfield T 1.178247734
14 Manchester C 1.176296633
15 Newcastle U 1.17478181
16 Sheffield U 1.172413793
17 Colchester U 1.170266379
18 Aston Villa 1.170031404
19 Brentford 1.166188364
20 Brighton 1.165479018
21 Bristol City 1.165124884
22 Queens Park Ra 1.162154846
23 Sunderland 1.153966132
24 Wolverhampton W 1.153579176
25 Bournemouth 1.152565136
26 Swindon Town 1.152293578
27 Plymouth Argyle 1.151955603
28 Tranmere Rovers 1.150421496
29 Cardiff City 1.145591804
30 Preston North E 1.14261242
31 Norwich City 1.140718563
32 Hull City 1.139635317
33 Southampton 1.139244024
34 Watford 1.138742072
35 Blackburn R 1.136092056
36 West Ham United 1.135833333
37 Shrewsbury Town 1.134429746
38 Bristol Rovers 1.132100396
39 Crystal Palace 1.131847476
40 Nottingham For 1.128542736
41 Sheffield Wed 1.12759313
42 Chesterfield 1.127237542
43 Swansea City 1.127229172
44 Northampton T 1.126506024
45 Southend United 1.125714286
46 Burnley 1.124865447
47 West Bromwich 1.123634775
48 Gillingham 1.122032027
49 Fulham 1.121410579
50 Bolton W 1.120140567
51 Rotherham U 1.119453925
52 Charlton Ath 1.116991643
53 Birmingham City 1.114215467
54 Derby County 1.113496933
55 Leicester City 1.11045722
56 Oldham Athletic 1.107931118
57 Middlesbrough 1.105737316
58 Blackpool 1.104487761
59 Portsmouth 1.101824122
60 Bury 1.101709776
61 Stoke City 1.10102183
62 Bradford City 1.100440733
63 Carlisle United 1.09751773
64 Notts County 1.091780239
65 Port Vale 1.090148699
66 Walsall 1.087129699
67 Barnsley 1.08027884
68 Doncaster R 1.075056433
69 Coventry City 1.074344417
70 York City 1.069367909
71 Rochdale 1.06005291
72 Crewe Alexandra 1.050346776
73 Leyton Orient 1.050191205
74 Hartlepool Utd 1.035864979
75 Exeter City 1.029615278
skybluefred
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The problem with Coventry is it was always a cosmopolitan City--people coming from all over the UK to work in the car factories.
If City where winning a few games these fans would turn up just to watch a game of football. Now the industrial heart has been
ripped out of the City and there are many more jobless hence the lower attendances.
The premier league has to be the ultimate goal if you want to see good players playing for our team.
If City where winning a few games these fans would turn up just to watch a game of football. Now the industrial heart has been
ripped out of the City and there are many more jobless hence the lower attendances.
The premier league has to be the ultimate goal if you want to see good players playing for our team.
We don't always have to agree, as I said it's about opinions and just because yours may be different to mine doesn't mean we do not respect the others point of view.
skybluefred
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That's an unfair comparison, how many of those teams spent 34 years playing in the premiership.