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cloughie

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Just to prove to the doubters on here that we are the same person I actually admired Richardson and I am convinced if that clown mcginnity had not succeeded him we'd have got back up and we certainly would have a better deal at the Ricoh.


You actually admired Richardson, oh it explains so much about you, I am gobsmacked that anyone could say something like this about the man that stole Highfield Road from CCFC

Unbelievable
 
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John Clark.

John Clarke OBE was a bit of a nonentity in my opinion, a PR guy who bailed when the going got tough, hence one might conclude his nerves are not made of steel.
 

shmmeee

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It's a tough one. On the pitch Richardson and Fisher have probably delivered the most. But off it both have done more damage than the rest put together.

I'd say Richardson just for running up the debt and getting us relegated the first time. Starting our downward spiral in footballing terms, which ultimately is all I care about.
 

Grendel

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You actually admired Richardson, oh it explains so much about you, I am gobsmacked that anyone could say something like this about the man that stole Highfield Road from CCFC

Unbelievable

I am sure you were saying that when we were playing the best football certainly in my lifetime in 1998
 

cloughie

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It's a tough one. On the pitch Richardson and Fisher have probably delivered the most. But off it both have done more damage than the rest put together.

I'd say Richardson just for running up the debt and getting us relegated the first time. Starting our downward spiral in footballing terms, which ultimately is all I care about.

What about the theft of highfield road with cohort hover
 

shmmeee

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What about the theft of highfield road with cohort hover

Not sure about theft to be honest. Like I say all I really care about if I'm honest is how we do on the pitch and I don't think moving from HR was a bad thing. Richarse gave me the best City team in my lifetime, but did it at the expense of the next 15-20 years.
 

cloughie

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I am sure you were saying that when we were playing the best football certainly in my lifetime in 1998


You admire the thief who stole Highfield Road,

you complain about ricoh rent yet Highfield road rent paid was very similar to the sale price to whom?

Think most intelligent people know who 'bought' it first in one guise or another.

You continue in your deluded state
 

CJ_covblaze

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CJ_covblaze

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What about the theft of highfield road with cohort hover

What ever happened to him? Wasn't he the one that came up with the crap badge?

It was announced he was on gardening leave (think that was the term used) and more would be announced in "7 days". Nothing else was ever said about him. He ended up at Gillingham IIRC.

Anyway I think Orange Ken's up there. Pointon and Brody too. Also who could forget Fletcher?
 

Grendel

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You admire the thief who stole Highfield Road,

you complain about ricoh rent yet Highfield road rent paid was very similar to the sale price to whom?

Think most intelligent people know who 'bought' it first in one guise or another.

You continue in your deluded state

Emotional guff.

Half of the original members of the Premier League are no longer there. CCFC is a relatively small club. Like or not Richardson's strategies kept the club punching above its weight far more than clubs of a similar size. It allowed the signing of relatively big name players and some exciting times.
Many of the Chairmen at that time were of similar character. Richardson had a swagger and he had some delusion in his ambition. There are of course also some of the interesting accusations which we are all aware.
I suggest, however, you actually start to look at what his successor achieved. He cost cutted on a scale which made Dulieu look profligate. He destroyed anyhope of a return to the Premiership not only by swinging cuts but a trigger happy style regarding managers which saw two of the best prospects in management we had bulleted for very unsuitable "big name" replacements. Then of course there was the disastrous deal with the Ricoh.
Richardson would, I am sure, have reacted differently. He would not have had the "moral dilemna" faced by his successor in pulling the administration trigger at a time when there was no penalty whatsoever. Then he would under a new guise have fought to get a better deal over the new ground. Oh no doubt he would have had a pay rise as well but that's the way it goes.
I dare any Coventry fan to tell me they wouldn't rewind the clock back 15 years and return to Dublin, Huckerby etc. when a certain chairman even received some votes for Player of The Year.
 

SkyBlueSid

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What about the theft of highfield road with cohort hover

You were the first to mention Graham Hover. But he was the one behind several 'regimes' including Richardson and McGinnity. He seemed fireproof, and the wisdom amongst the small shareholders was that they could never get rid of him because he was the one who knew where all the bodies were buried.

He never took a high profile, but watching him operate at shareholders meetings it was clear that he was behind most of what happened at the club. Shrewd or conniving - who knows?
 

shmmeee

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Agree with a lot of what Grendel says, in hindsight we needed to push to become at least a yoyo club after relegation. Selling the family silver (players and the stake in the Ricoh) fucked us over as did terrible manager selection. Who can forget "instant success"?

On another note I actually liked Brody. Wasn't afraid to think outside the box, was approachable. I think being foreign and a bit flash went against him a lot. Also I don't think he appreciated how conservative football fans can be and could've kept some of his crazier ideas quiet. But new ideas of themselves aren't a bad thing.
 

wingy

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Agree with a lot of what Grendel says, in hindsight we needed to push to become at least a yoyo club after relegation. Selling the family silver (players and the stake in the Ricoh) fucked us over as did terrible manager selection. Who can forget "instant success"?

On another note I actually liked Brody. Wasn't afraid to think outside the box, was approachable. I think being foreign and a bit flash went against him a lot. Also I don't think he appreciated how conservative football fans can be and could've kept some of his crazier ideas quiet. But new ideas of themselves aren't a bad thing.

Wonder what happened to his stake ? Ten % was'nt It? Who took that on and has It carried through into the New structure ?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Maybe. But at the end of the day he was harmless enough. He didn't help to destroy our club like Richardson and Fisher.

Yea, when I think of Dulieu I get the image of him topping up his fake tan sitting in his Portugal villa 24/7 just generally not giving a crap.
 

CJ_covblaze

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Yea, when I think of Dulieu I get the image of him topping up his fake tan sitting in his Portugal villa 24/7 just generally not giving a crap.

How anyone that's only permitted to be in the country for 90 days a year was allowed to run a football club is beyond me.
 

CJ_covblaze

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Wonder what happened to his stake ? Ten % was'nt It? Who took that on and has It carried through into the New structure ?

He gave it up when he left. Unlike a certain Canadian.
 

RedSalmon

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In have to agree as much as loved Jimmy Hill the manager I disliked Hill the chairman even as manager he left us in the shite when he resigned. People seem to forget under his chairmanship we sold star players galore, Ian Wallace to build the white elephant connexion, virtually a whole team of home grown talent, the disastrous all seater stadium which was just putting seats on terracing, reducing an average gate of 25000 to a maximum 21000. Sorry would have been no statue for JH if it was up to me

Think it was Jimmy Hill who invested a lot of the clubs money in the US footbal league, only to see the bottom fall out and CCFC with a huge debt. Did the club have some tie up with Detroit Express?
 

skybluesam66

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Think it was Jimmy Hill who invested a lot of the clubs money in the US footbal league, only to see the bottom fall out and CCFC with a huge debt. Did the club have some tie up with Detroit Express?

Washington Diplomats - we played them in a friendly at HR
 

torchomatic

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Washington Diplomats. JH lost a fortune. Hence the "Kill! Kill! Jimmy Hill!" chants that used to ring around HR.

Think it was Jimmy Hill who invested a lot of the clubs money in the US footbal league, only to see the bottom fall out and CCFC with a huge debt. Did the club have some tie up with Detroit Express?
 

skybluesam66

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Washington Diplomats. JH lost a fortune. Hence the "Kill! Kill! Jimmy Hill!" chants that used to ring around HR.

coventry city lost a fortune

it was similar to when he announced at the start of a game v Notts county over the tannoy that he had turned down Steve hunts transfer request (first hunt knew of it) - we lost 5-1

All seater stadium (whilst still watching through fences)


however - sorry, none of these match to the bad in the current bunch of charlatans
 

RedSalmon

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I suppose that what ever Jimmy Hill did, most people would accept that he did with the best interests of the club at heart.

The current owners have another agenda that they will persue at whetever cost to the club and fans.
 

Grendel

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I suppose that what ever Jimmy Hill did, most people would accept that he did with the best interests of the club at heart.

The current owners have another agenda that they will persue at whetever cost to the club and fans.

Hill was a gambler and a high risk one at that.

He created a 12,000 stadium
He wanted a name change and dispose of Coventry city as a name
He wanted to move to the NEC
He blew all our funds on an absurd venture abroad
He bought record transfer signings in high wages who played under 12 games between them

Him and joy would have got on well.
 

RedSalmon

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Hill was a gambler and a high risk one at that.

He created a 12,000 stadium
He wanted a name change and dispose of Coventry city as a name
He wanted to move to the NEC
He blew all our funds on an absurd venture abroad
He bought record transfer signings in high wages who played under 12 games between them

Him and joy would have got on well.

Not a fan?
 

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