Would it effect your working performance (1 Viewer)

dongonzalos

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Your boss announces in the national press that next week the company you work for may go into liquidation?
 

lordsummerisle

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Yep, it would obviously affect it for every game I didn't win, but not for every game that I did win.

It would be the sole factor affecting results for a whole season..
 

Grendel

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Your boss announces in the national press that next week the company you work for may go into liquidation?

Well it clearly didn't this team as they had enough desire to fight their way to a draw and come back from two down for the first time I can remember for a while.

So clearly no.
 

lordsummerisle

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Would it affect you and how you performed at work?

It might concentrate the mind a bit, which, if you could ever believe that footballers take much of an interest in anything that goes on outside their own bubble, you could say has happened with coming from behind to win on Saturday, and coming back to get a draw from 2-0 down tonight.

However if you want to believe that our team plays better with the Sword of Damocles hanging over their heads you're more than entitled to think that, and maybe suggest that Fisher should have pulled this tactic at the start of the season.
 

SBS

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Not if I was a footballer. Strong individual performance will be noticed by other clubs.

Football is not the same as other workplaces. Nearly every footballer at this club would get signed up in the football league. Yes some would take pay cuts, but its not as if they're losing a job in manufacturing at the age of 50. As you say, it should give them a kick up the arse.
 

torchomatic

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What about the 40 years before tonight?

Your boss announces in the national press that next week the company you work for may go into liquidation?
 

dongonzalos

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Well it clearly didn't this team as they had enough desire to fight their way to a draw and come back from two down for the first time I can remember for a while.

So clearly no.

I think it would effect anybody.

Potentially you may stop getting paid. Your contract may not be honoured.
You will need to find a new club. Try to match your current wages due to your financial commitments.
You will need to consider moving to another part of the country.
I think it may effect some people's desire and motivation (not all)
But these players are only human.
 
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dongonzalos

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Football is not the same as other workplaces. Nearly every footballer at this club would get signed up in the football league. Yes some would take pay cuts, but its not as if they're losing a job in manufacturing at the age of 50. As you say, it should give them a kick up the arse.

When you have to up sticks and move when you are not expecting it and lose a lot if money when you have financial commitments.
You will need to find clubs who still have a budget to offer you wages for the last ten games.
I would be amazed if it did not affect some of them
 

Grendel

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When you have to up sticks and move when you are not expecting it and lose a lot if money when you have financial commitments.
You will need to find clubs who still have a budget to offer you wages for the last ten games.
I would be amazed if it did not affect some of them

When was the last time we came from 2 goals down?
 

dongonzalos

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When was the last time we came from 2 goals down?

It's very rare that we go 2-0 down
I remember the freak match against Crewe where we destroyed them.

Then I think we may be going back to Notts County, where we pulled one back?

I maybe wrong this if off the top of my head.

It is very very rare that someone in this league takes a two goal lead against us.
 

Grendel

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It's very rare that we go 2-0 down
I remember the freak match against Crewe where we destroyed them.

Then I think we may be going back to Notts County, where we pulled one back?

I maybe wrong this if off the top of my head.

It is very very rare that someone in this league takes a two goal lead against us.

Its happened at least 3 times this season and this is the only time we have fought back to get a result so your rather juvenile post is disproven
 

dongonzalos

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Its happened at least 3 times this season and this is the only time we have fought back to get a result so your rather juvenile post is disproven

3 times including this one?

So very rare then.

Juvenile to think that if someone is on the verge of losing their job. With the possibility of no compensation and the new job if they get one is likely to involve a move and possibly will be for less money. To think that this may play on their mind and affect their performance at work be it as a physio, a player training or a coach coaching is a juvenile consideration.
Yes think you are right there.....
 

lordsummerisle

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3 times including this one?

So very rare then.

Juvenile to think that if someone is on the verge of losing their job. With the possibility of no compensation and the new job if they get one is likely to involve a move and possibly will be for less money. To think that this may play on their mind and affect their performance at work be it as a physio, a player training or a coach coaching is a juvenile consideration.
Yes think you are right there.....

I'm sorry, but did we actually lose the last two games in Dongles alternate World?

The one where Andy Thorn is flying high at the top of the Premiership with West Ham after romping through the Championship with them last season after he was poached from us?

In the real World, we have won one and drawn one(both coming from behind) since the "L" word was used.

Really do fail to see your point.
 

dongonzalos

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I'm sorry, but did we actually lose the last two games in Dongles alternate World?

The one where Andy Thorn is flying high at the top of the Premiership with West Ham after romping through the Championship with them last season after he was poached from us?

In the real World, we have won one and drawn one(both coming from behind) since the "L" word was used.

Really do fail to see your point.

There has only been one game since Tim's
Statement.
I can see why you fail to see the point.
 

Grendel

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There has only been one game since Tim's
Statement.
I can see why you fail to see the point.

No one can see your point is more the point. A draw at home versus 4 straight losses?
 

dongonzalos

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Crazy parallel universe. Where the threat of losing your job and you can do nothing to impact it, has a negative effect in your mindset.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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Of course it would influence their motivation. If they are playing quite well despite this fact is another issue. But to admit it's anything other than positive would be for Grenduffy to divorce himself from the notion that Fisher's playing a blinder
 

dongonzalos

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Of course it would influence their motivation. If they are playing quite well despite this fact is another issue. But to admit it's anything other than positive would be for Grenduffy to divorce himself from the notion that Fisher's playing a blinder

It's kinda a bit embarrassing to have to try and argue that it does play on people's minds.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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It's kinda a bit embarrassing to have to try and argue that it does play on people's minds.

These are people who may soon be out of a job:looking for new clubs, moving house, taking kids out of school. To pretend it won't even be on their minds, which has to be to the detriment of some focus is a fanciful opinion. At best
 

ashbyjan

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When Steve Waggott was asked about this at the Trust meeting the other week he stated that it isn't affecting the players at all. Players were basically selfish and as long as they were getting paid they stayed in their insulated bubble away from the outside world. I am sure they are being told not to worry about it - its all just posturing etc.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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When Steve Waggott was asked about this at the Trust meeting the other week he stated that it isn't affecting the players at all. Players were basically selfish and as long as they were getting paid they stayed in their insulated bubble away from the outside world. I am sure they are being told not to worry about it - its all just posturing etc.

I would, for balance, be interested in hearing a candid view from a player with kids settled in a local school. Whilst they may in the medium term find employment elsewhere, it simply has to be unsettling until clarity prevails
 

dongonzalos

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When Steve Waggott was asked about this at the Trust meeting the other week he stated that it isn't affecting the players at all. Players were basically selfish and as long as they were getting paid they stayed in their insulated bubble away from the outside world. I am sure they are being told not to worry about it - its all just posturing etc.

Tim had not made his statement by then.
Now they are getting told they may not be getting paid over the next couple of weeks.
If I was them I have my agent making phone calls just in case.
 
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fernandopartridge

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I would, for balance, be interested in hearing a candid view from a player with kids settled in a local school. Whilst they may in the medium term find employment elsewhere, it simply has to be unsettling until clarity prevails

The response would be "My kids are settled but if I could get a few hundred quid a week more in the Outer Hebredes I'd go there"
 

dongonzalos

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Why would you do that in any case? You can't move on because the club is under a transfer embargo.

Making plans, I would not want the club to go insolvent then I begin trying to find a new club.

I would want my agent to put the feeders out if Coventry went bust next week would you take my player, these are his wages.
 

dongonzalos

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I think it would be naive, to think that footballers sit there in a bubble and have not thought about.... What if our boss is telling the truth and we go bust next week.

Maybe in the prem I could see it but these are league one teams.

Fleck had to move from Glasgow to Coventry when this happened to him
 

Grendel

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Tim had not made his statement by then.
Now they are getting told they may not be getting paid over the next couple of weeks.
If I was them I have my agent making phone calls just in case.

No one has told them they are not getting paid - what is this comedy hour?
 

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