Would robins Be our greatest ever manager if we were promoted (1 Viewer)

[Grendel]

Dave Bassett?

 

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[Grendel]

Alan ashman I think is another

 

[Evo1883]

Did Wimbledon do it with 1 manager?

Dave bassett

 

[Evo1883]

Actually looking Eddie howe did it with Bournemouth but it wasn't a straight spell , he left then came back .

Let's say the unthinkable happened we would have done it in 6 seasons

 

[bigfatronssba]

John Toshack with Swansea

 

[PVA]

You can't compare the modern era to eras gone by... But here are some managers from 50 years ago to prove Robins is rubbish.

Classic.

 

[Evo1883]

John Toshack with Swansea

Bill shankley said he was the manager of the century for doing it , in 4 years too

Atm we have 2 in toshak and Bassett

 

[Deleted member 5849]

You can't compare the modern era to eras gone by... But here are some managers from 50 years ago to prove Robins is rubbish.

Classic.

Eh?!?

 

[Grendel]

Eh?!?

And he accuses others of not understanding basic comprehension

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Bill shankley said he was the manager of the century for doing it , in 4 years too

Led them to sixth in their first season in the top flight too, they were challenging for the title for a while. Damn good manager was Toshack.


Also provided entertainment.

He's back: JB, mangler of metaphors

The British know him as John Toshack. The Spanish call him John Benjamin. Whatever his name, he's back - and he's trying to help Real Murcia avoid relegation. Sid Lowe looks at one of football's great mangler of metaphors.

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[Evo1883]

Led them to sixth in their first season in the top flight too, they were challenging for the title for a while. Damn good manager was Toshack.


Also provided entertainment.

He's back: JB, mangler of metaphors

The British know him as John Toshack. The Spanish call him John Benjamin. Whatever his name, he's back - and he's trying to help Real Murcia avoid relegation. Sid Lowe looks at one of football's great mangler of metaphors.

www.theguardian.com

I just remember him managing Wales

 

[EalingSB]

Was going to say Graham Turner with Wolves but he won 4th and 3rd division titles in successive seasons but didn’t take them into the top flight.

 

[Grendel]

Alan ashman did but over two spells - can PVA confirm if that counts?

 

[PVA]

Eh?!?

Grendel said it's impossible to compare Robins' achievements against previous eras.

Then lists a load of successful managers from bygone eras to play down Robins' achievements.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Grendel said it's impossible to compare Robins' achievements against previous eras.

Then lists a load of successful managers from bygone eras to play down Robins' achievements.

I think you're letting your hatred of him colour this conversation, or are Evo me and bigfatron in on it too?

 

[PVA]

I think you're letting your hatred of him colour this conversation, or are Evo me and bigfatron in on it too?

I don't think you and Evo said you can't compare against previous eras did you?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I don't think you and Evo said you can't compare against previous eras did you?

But we're all responding to Evo's question about what managers did it with one club.

 

[Grendel]

I think you're letting your hatred of him colour this conversation, or are Evo me and bigfatron in on it too?

And Evo raised the question

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

But why pick Wycombe? Why not pick the (at least seven) teams who didn't win the title despite having a bigger budget? Why ignore the fact we won a title playing in Birmingham?

Becuase Wycombe had the smallest budget in the league and got promoted.

I’m not knocking how impressive it was. Considering Sunderland, Ipswich and Portsmouth had bigger budgets - robins was a better manager than they had.

I’m saying it weren’t a miracle as some make out. League one is a surprisingly evenish league

it was a great achievement but to say he wasn’t backed or was completely hamstrung is just wrong - Pressley for instance had to deal with a 10 point deduction and was playing in Northampton with a fanbase totally against the club. At one stage we looked liked we’d gatecrash the top 6 then. That was arguably just as good an achievement

 

[Grendel]

@PVA does Jimmy Sirrell count - now there is a true legend

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Graham Taylor of course did it with Watford, then led them to runners up in the top flight, and an FA Cup final.

Not bad.

 

[PVA]

@PVA does Jimmy Sirrell count - now there is a true legend

The real question is who's the better manager, Mark Robins, Kenny Jackett or Gareth Ainsworth?

 

[Boosh]

The real question is who's the better manager, Mark Robins, Kenny Jackett or Gareth Ainsworth?

Who’s the better striker Callum Ball or Callum Wilson?

 

[procdoc]

The real question is who's the better manager, Mark Robins, Kenny Jackett or Gareth Ainsworth?

Ainsworth wears tight trousers on the touch line so I’ll say him

 

[Finham]

I'd say he's the 3rd to 5th best. If he takes us to a top half Premier League finish, that will change.

 

[Ian1779]

Don't care if he is or isn't just build the statue and get one of George and John too.

A Mount Rushmore style one behind the Tesco.

Robins, Hill, Curtis, Sillett

 

[Deleted member 5849]

A Mount Rushmore style one behind the Tesco.

Robins, Hill, Curtis, Sillett

On wheels though, in case we move again!

 

[Speedie's Head]

A Mount Rushmore style one behind the Tesco.

Robins, Hill, Curtis, Sillett

Hard to beat George and John. I liked Wee Gordon too

 

[PVA]

Ainsworth wears tight trousers on the touch line so I’ll say him

Minus points for the cowboy boots though.

 

[Great_Expectations]

Ainsworth wears tight trousers on the touch line so I’ll say him

I like his little beard

 

[shmmeee]

I like his little beard

Didn’t realise the trousers were that tight!

 

[Evo1883]

I'd say he's the 3rd to 5th best. If he takes us to a top half Premier League finish, that will change.

Even after 3 promotions ? Name the 3-5 potentially better

 

[Finham]

No is is disparaging the FA Cup win. Just that it was easier for Sillett to take an established top flight team and win the cup than it was for Robins to take a club on the verge of extinction back to the PL.

The top ten thing is a bit silly. Bobby Gould & Phil Neal were only 1 point off getting us a top ten finish in 1994, but I doubt they will be appearing on any greatest ever managers list. And if we did go on that, it would have to be Noel Cantwell

We were certainly not "established" in the slightest bit-you must surely know that, we had many Great Escapes! JS & GC saved us from relegation under Mackay and then transformed us not into just FA Cup winners, but a side that challenged for a title not long after (we were 3rd for much of the season). If anything we became established under JS but at no other time during the 80's-90's.

 

[Evo1883]

We were certainly not "established" in the slightest bit-you must surely know that, we had many Great Escapes! JS & GC saved us from relegation under Mackay and then transformed us not into just FA Cup winners, but a side that challenged for a title not long after (we were 3rd for much of the season). If anything we became established under JS but at no other time during the 80's-90's.

It was our 20th season in the top flight

 

[bigfatronssba]

We were certainly not "established" in the slightest bit-you must surely know that, we had many Great Escapes! JS & GC saved us from relegation under Mackay and then transformed us not into just FA Cup winners, but a side that challenged for a title not long after (we were 3rd for much of the season). If anything we became established under JS but at no other time during the 80's-90's.

Sorry but a club that had been in the top flight for 20 years is established.