Out with of interested is there any fans that have Nuneaton as there second team as there local non league side.... a question for them.
Is Nuneaton's ground up to league standard? And could the pitch actually hold up to play 2 teams home games and the rugby team too?
Look at a state of the art pitch at the Ricoh and how with a good full time grounds team working on it, look how that cuts up.
How is a "traditional" pitch realistically gonna hold up to 3 teams playing on it.
What totally fucks me off is Wasps are getting an easy ride.
If SISU stop the legal action and put in a PR savvy negotiating team there's a chance of a decent deal for the club. The last thing Wasps need is bad PR and CCFC's team could exploit this.
Protests with the intensity shown by SOME of our fans at Northampton but now outside the Ricoh when Wasps play, confrontation football types getting in the faces of their posh and fickle Warwickshire fans is Wasps worst night mare.
This was to be our last season in the city of Coventry for many a year?
I know there has been a 'will you get a season ticket next year' thread and many said they definitely wouldn't renew, but just wondered if the goalposts move for you if you understood that this would be our last season here? Kicked out by Wasps, having to groundshare again the year after.
I think it would definitely effect my thinking. I have pretty much said I think I probably will renew again next season, but I most definitely would if I thought this was our last season in the city and faced the prospect of a far away groundshare.
Would it change your thinking?
Depends if they are worried about the outcome of Jr2 if everything is as it should be then there is no reason to not renew our tenure
Totally agree with you I would'nt deal with them either I even made sure my pension fund had no dealing with them as wellThere are no guarantees with everything in life. If there was a mistake that's the council's doing not Wasps. All Wasps will be worried about is if SISU surprises us all and win. An unlikely remedy available to the judge is to the reverse the decision made by the Council. If that happened, that would adversely affect Wasps' business.
At the same time you are facing that threat, even if you were 90% certain it wouldn't come to that. In order to manage the risk, when the person who causing that risk needs something from you. You must admit you would be a pretty poor business person if you didn't say 'yep I will do business with you, once you drop that action that is causing a risk to my business.'
first chance I gotThey're taking the right stance, if my tenant was trying to take me to court, then why on Earth would I agree to an extension on the lease when it runs out? I'd kick the cheeky fucker out..
There are no guarantees with everything in life. If there was a mistake that's the council's doing not Wasps. All Wasps will be worried about is if SISU surprises us all and win. An unlikely remedy available to the judge is to the reverse the decision made by the Council. If that happened, that would adversely affect Wasps' business.
At the same time you are facing that threat, even if you were 90% certain it wouldn't come to that. In order to manage the risk, when the person who causing that risk needs something from you. You must admit you would be a pretty poor business person if you didn't say 'yep I will do business with you, once you drop that action that is causing a risk to my business.'
It's SISU taking Wasps to court isn't it? The owners of CCFC, do we have a choice ffs?So if you personally were pulling the strings at wasps you would kick ccfc out?
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No its sisu talking the council to court.It's SISU taking Wasps to court isn't it?
Which effects Wasps and CCFC, both effectively on opposite sides of the court battle...No its sisu talking the council to court.
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There are no guarantees with everything in life. If there was a mistake that's the council's doing not Wasps. All Wasps will be worried about is if SISU surprises us all and win. An unlikely remedy available to the judge is to the reverse the decision made by the Council. If that happened, that would adversely affect Wasps' business.
At the same time you are facing that threat, even if you were 90% certain it wouldn't come to that. In order to manage the risk, when the person who causing that risk needs something from you. You must admit you would be a pretty poor business person if you didn't say 'yep I will do business with you, once you drop that action that is causing a risk to my business.'
And perfectly illustrates what an easy ride Wasps get. Imagine if it was SISU acting that way, people would be up in arms.It is a negotiating position by Wasps nothing more imo. It puts pressure on Fisher & SISU to make a decision
And perfectly illustrates what an easy ride Wasps get. Imagine if it was SISU acting that way, people would be up in arms.
Out with of interested is there any fans that have Nuneaton as there second team as there local non league side.... a question for them.
Is Nuneaton's ground up to league standard? And could the pitch actually hold up to play 2 teams home games and the rugby team too?
Look at a state of the art pitch at the Ricoh and how with a good full time grounds team working on it, look how that cuts up.
How is a "traditional" pitch realistically gonna hold up to 3 teams playing on it.
But the jr2 only covers the council shares so wasps remain with the 50% they got off the charity and would have a say in who has the other 50%.
The best I think Sisu would get if they would be the judge telling Council to look at the disposal again so it complies with what he decides.
Sisu might well make a claim if they win but what about the one wasps could make not to mention a potential one from the charity.
It could get very very messy and take years to sort out........... and the implications for Ccfc are not great as it means Sisu stay in all probability
Still think the chances of Sisu winning is remote which might explain why jr2 hasn't progressed very far as yet
Interesting thought. The council will have to argue the lease extension was a separate deal to the ACL sale. While the ACL is far too complicated to undo the lease extension could be reversed very easily. CCC give Wasps their £1m back and the lease reverts to the remaining 40 years of the original lease.Does JR2 not have an issue with the the decision to extend the lease to 250 years?
If the judge finds the lease extension should not have happened at that price.
Is it not in the judges power as a remedy option to have that decision reversed and the lease reverted to the original time frame at point of sale.
With SISU also separately taking legal action for compensation?
What is long term?Wasps stance is to insist on a long term deal which is clearly in their interests looking at their own financial position.
Interesting thought. The council will have to argue the lease extension was a separate deal to the ACL sale. While the ACL is far too complicated to undo the lease extension could be reversed very easily. CCC give Wasps their £1m back and the lease reverts to the remaining 40 years of the original lease.
That would put Wasps in a very tricky situation with their bonds as they are secured against the lease. The value of that would surely drop massively
When you have a relative dying in a hospice you know you're only going through the motions and a sense of responsibility wanting them to be put out of their misery. You go out of guilt and perhaps not as often as you should but still want to be there to say goodbye.
And perfectly illustrates what an easy ride Wasps get. Imagine if it was SISU acting that way, people would be up in arms.
Well I didn't ask your opinion so fuck you too!No. It's fucking not like that at all . What a fucking awful metaphor.
There is 0% chance the courts will reverse the decision made by the council.
The only outcome if sisu win is the council get a slap on the wrist and a fine. Then sisu will sue the council for damages.
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Will Robins taking over the managerial reins make any difference to renewing for anyone?
I don't believe thats an option either. Too much time has moved on since that decision, and it wouldn't be in the public interest, given the bonds are intrinsically linked to the lease.Interesting thought. The council will have to argue the lease extension was a separate deal to the ACL sale. While the ACL is far too complicated to undo the lease extension could be reversed very easily. CCC give Wasps their £1m back and the lease reverts to the remaining 40 years of the original lease.
That would put Wasps in a very tricky situation with their bonds as they are secured against the lease. The value of that would surely drop massively
I don't believe thats an option either. Too much time has moved on since that decision, and it wouldn't be in the public interest, given the bonds are intrinsically linked to the lease.
I maintain, the worst that will happen is the council gets a fine.
I suspect wasps already know this, but its a handy excuse to use, given everyone hates sisu.
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Well I am sure Wasps will sleep easy at night and won't perceive any risk to their £35 million. As long as you maintain that the option the judge has as a remedy of reverting the lease length to 40 years , won't be utilised by the judge.
Why on earth would Wasps not try and stop this risk as source if they have the option to use our future at the Ricoh as an angle. They would be very very poor business people if they didn't. If I had money invested in the hedge fund who owns Wasps. I would be totally peeved off if they didn't use their position as Landlord to protect my investment against any such risk.
Your right but it is all of our own doing they obviously run a better fund then our owners.Why is he legal point bullshit?
Do you think Wasps would prefer that the legal action stopped?
They have something to hold against us to try and achieve that, you think very lowly of them do you not think they are capable of subtly blackmailing us?
Why do you think they will agree a short term deal?
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