Investment on the Horizon? (1 Viewer)

[torchomatic]

Why only copy and paste half my post. Not quite so divisive then, is it.
If people want to go, then good luck to them. I choose not to anymore.
You must disagree with me regarding the comment about the worlds best business people then.

Yes it is divisive. You are saying anyone that goes to see the club they support is lickng up to the owners. You've made your decision and let others make theirs. There are many luke you who try and stamp their POV on others and it is wrong and shouldn't happen.

The bit i didn't quote was just your opinion, which you are entitled to. Let others make up their own minds without the childish accusations.

 

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[sky blue john]

Speaking of vanishing and making things up.

So by selling our top scorer at the time wasn't suicide ?

 

[stupot07]

I don't agree with that. I just don't think they don't care either way. Its an asset on a balance sheet and it has to break even.

It was also inevitable at some point given we had one of thr lowest 3-4 turnovers in the league and were losjng £5-6m pa, just scraping relegation.

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[Sky Blue Kid]

Speaking of vanishing and making things up.

Fisher himself has stated that, higher the league, the harder to be self sufficient, the lower the league the easier it is.

 

[stupot07]

Fisher himself has stated that, higher the league, the harder to be self sufficient, the lower the league the easier it is.

It is, the FFP rules are different in league one and two (limit player spend to 60% turnover) compared to championship (lose up to £13m pa). Thats completely different to what John is saying. And the breakeven strategy is only a recent one.

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[Sick Boy]

It doesn't bother some fans though, that Sisu purposefully got us relegated from the championship, in the attempt to get a bigger compensation payout !

Some fans fully endorsed it with their unwavering support of a clueless manager.

 

[bawtryneal]

It's here:

You're the chairman

Save typing it all out again!

Thanks
Will read over my coffee and crumpets.

 

[sky blue john]

Some fans fully endorsed it with their unwavering support of a clueless manager.

Would they be the 2,300 regulars to sixfields ?

 

[Grendel]

So by selling our top scorer at the time wasn't suicide ?

Somewhat old news but the club actually got more points post sale - still always nice to see care in the community in action over Christmas

 

[Nick]

Would they be the 2,300 regulars to sixfields ?

Seemed to be the opposite if I remember.

 

[Kilclines curly mullet]

Back to the original post, Are there any updates ?

 

[Sick Boy]

Would they be the 2,300 regulars to sixfields ?

No, those fans who backed Thorn and abused anyone who dared to speak out. The decision to employ him for a major factor in our relegation. It was interesting that some regarded him as one of the best managers in the country, yet refused to praise Sisu for hiring him.

 

[Nick]

No, those fans who backed Thorn and abused anyone who dared to speak out.

It was the majority card that got played, his hands were tied because the majority said so.

Even if you pointed out tactically a mistake he made it was "the majority".

 

[Grendel]

No, those fans who backed Thorn and abused anyone who dared to speak out.

Sky Blue John said his diamond formation was ahead of its time and said there were comparisons with thorn to Sir Alex Ferguson.

 

[Sick Boy]

Haha the West Ham moment was a classic.

 

[bawtryneal]

Yes it is divisive. You are saying anyone that goes to see the club they support is lickng up to the owners. You've made your decision and let others make theirs. There are many luke you who try and stamp their POV on others and it is wrong and shouldn't happen.

The bit i didn't quote was just your opinion, which you are entitled to. Let others make up their own minds without the childish comments

Somewhat old news but the club actually got more points post sale - still always nice to see care in the community in action over Christmas

Will be interesting to see if you think this comment is divisive Torchmatic.

 

[sky blue john]

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No, those fans who backed Thorn and abused anyone who dared to speak out. The decision to employ him for a major factor in our relegation. It was interesting that some regarded him as one of the best managers in the country, yet refused to praise Sisu for hiring him.

Lol who employed him and who sold our leading goal scorer ?
I rest my case that relegation was all part of their master plan !

 

[Sick Boy]

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Lol who employed him and who sold our leading goal scorer ?
I rest my case that relegation was all part of their master plan !

If they hadn't of employed him there would have been major uproar from the fans/experts. As has already been said, we scored more after LJ was sold. I'm a bit surprised I didn't see you pointing all of this out when Thorny was taking us closer and closer to relegation.

Ahh...it's so much fun living in a post truth world.

 

[Nick]

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Lol who employed him and who sold our leading goal scorer ?
I rest my case that relegation was all part of their master plan !

Weren't plenty of fans calling for him to be our manager?

 

[bawtryneal]

Somewhat old news but the club actually got more points post sale - still always nice to see care in the community in action over Christmas

Will be interesting to see if you think above comment is divisive Torchmatic.

 

[Grendel]

Sorry - quote marks so not work - regarding SBJ and divisive;
Sky Blue John is a long absent regular who was extremely divisive - constantly mocking the sixfields attendees as the sisu social club and anyone who attended games as being part of a sisu posee.

I can assure you he will give out as much as he gets back

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

not necessarily. Keep running at break even and keep the court cases going. If they lose, doesnt really matter, as its peanuts to them and the club is breaking even, whatever league we are in.

Win one case though, and its pay off time. Ironically, the lower down the leagues we are, the higher the compensation claim would be, as we were a "established championship club" before the stadium issue.

True - if they win one case then they really will win big! However, SISU strategy is more like a gambler who keeps gambling despite a long losing streak

 

[sky blue john]

Sorry - quote marks so not work - regarding SBJ and divisive;
Sky Blue John is a long absent regular who was extremely divisive - constantly mocking the sixfields attendees as the sisu social club and anyone who attended games as being part of a sisu posee.

I can assure you he will give out as much as he gets back

The fans who went to sixfields cost the club any chance of owning a share in the Ricoh !

 

[stupot07]

The fans who went to sixfields cost the club any chance of owning a share in the Ricoh !

Lol, I never went to sixfield, but that sir is possibly one of the most cuntish things I've ever read on here.

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[hutch1972]

Haha. You cannot be serious. He was Joys first puppet.

Unlike the current tosspot RR resigned when he realised they had no intentions of meaningful investment.
With our experience over the last few years regarding sisu I believe what he said about getting ,Andy Carroll, Jordan Henderson and Jack Cork all for the princely sum of around 2 mill.
The man gets an lot of unfair stick imo.

 

[sky blue john]

Grendull and co following the sisu piped piper to sixfields cost the club dearly !

 

[bawtryneal]

Sorry - quote marks so not work - regarding SBJ and divisive;
Sky Blue John is a long absent regular who was extremely divisive - constantly mocking the sixfields attendees as the sisu social club and anyone who attended games as being part of a sisu posee.

I can assure you he will give out as much as he gets back

Okay with me but same applies to my post, which was not directed at him.
Double standards.

 

[Nick]

Unlike the current tosspot RR resigned when he realised they had no intentions of meaningful investment.
With our experience over the last few years regarding sisu I believe what he said about getting ,Andy Carroll, Jordan Henderson and Jack Cork all for the princely sum of around 2 mill.
The man gets an lot of unfair stick imo.

What about him financing Cardiff while he was here?

There is no way we would have had all of them for 2m. He spent more than half that on Freddie Eastwood and the other half to David Bell on wages.

 

[torchomatic]

Will be interesting to see if you think above comment is divisive Torchmatic.

Don't really understand what your point is. What has that got to do with fans attending football matches. He's having a go at someone, I'm not his keeper.

You'll have noticed no one commented on your decision to stop attending but you don't extend that courtesy to those that choose to still attend, you say they are licking up and supporting the owners, not their team. It's an attitude that just causes division, but I presume that's why you do it. Why not ring up after the next game and tell Juggy what he is doing. I'm sure he will appreciate your comments as will others who go to simply cheer on their team.

 

[sky blue john]

If nobody had followed Sisu to sixfields we would have been back at ricoh within half a dozen games. Which would have made it impossible for the council to sell the ricoh to Wasps.

 

[Grendel]

Unlike the current tosspot RR resigned when he realised they had no intentions of meaningful investment.
With our experience over the last few years regarding sisu I believe what he said about getting ,Andy Carroll, Jordan Henderson and Jack Cork all for the princely sum of around 2 mill.
The man gets an lot of unfair stick imo.

No he resigned when the football league started sniffing round his loans to Cardiff City.

His loans to he club were at twice the interest rates of sisu loans.

 

[Grendel]

Grendull and co following the sisu piped piper to sixfields cost the club dearly !

Been working on the joke book while out of action? That's a new one isn't it?

 

[Otis]

And what winds me up the most is when Fisher says " the club cannot survive without year round revenues and owning its own ground". THEN F@@KING DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Where do you suggest the club gets the money from to build its own stadium?

They won't get the money and that's why we know they will not build a new stadium, so it's time to just stop the pretence and say there IS no new stadium. This is why we try to piggy back ourselves on stuff like the Butts development.

They dare not say that though. It's all smoke and mirrors and they have to keep up the pretence.

For the life of me I don't know why we keep talking of new stadiums on here. Never going to happen while Sisu are in charge.

They have been looking for investors for years now. No-one is interested.

The only way we will have a new stadium is under new ownership.

 

[MatthewWallis]

Unfortunately the only way I see SISU going is if nobody went to the games, which isn't going to happen. Attendances will drop over the next few years but they'll still be here alongside that. When you sit back and think we've had 2 points deductions, administration e.t.c and these tramps are still in charge, it beggars belief.

The worst thing that could've happened is us 'breaking even' as now they're happy to sit and wait for an offer, whereas if we were still losing money they wouldn't have that 'luxury'.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

It is, the FFP rules are different in league one and two (limit player spend to 60% turnover) compared to championship (lose up to £13m pa). Thats completely different to what John is saying. And the breakeven strategy is only a recent one.

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Absolute rubbish stupot07.... Have you got selective memory or what?... Almost at the beginning of SISU tenure(When Coleman was brought in) RR/SISU quotes of "22k is break even" or do you conveniently forget that "Famous quote"

This taken from a forum... not my words...
Penshaw Eagle
11-02-2011, 09:48 AM
I heard a few years ago they need gates of 22,000 -23,000 just to break even they are no where near these ...