I agreed with alot what fisher said last night (2 Viewers)

[grego_gee]

Senior councillor has said that they will not work with Sisu to my face

I'm not disputing that the council may have said they won't work with SISU.
I was disputing the hysteria that perpetuates that SISU are bad owners.

Anyway their reluctance to deal with SISU seems to be on and off as it suits them! Was your conversation with Maton before or after the council agreed a deal for SISU to buy the ACL mortgage off YB and then reneged on it when they got word of the Byng Dynasty?

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[James Smith]

They are?

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Think he means that ACL are part owned by a charity and the council.

 

[Otis]

Sorry, was meaning to say Higgs, who form part of this whole ACL/Higgs/Council trinity.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Think he means that ACL are part owned by a charity and the council.

So not a charity then.

 

[Otis]

I'm not disputing that the council may have said they won't work with SISU.
I was disputing the hysteria that perpetuates that SISU are bad owners.

Anyway their reluctance to deal with SISU seems to be on and off as it suits them! Was your conversation with Maton before or after the council agreed a deal for SISU to buy the ACL mortgage off YB and then reneged on it when they got word of the Byng Dynasty?

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Who reneged on it?

To be honest, it's all conjecture. Just cos ACL say something it doesn't make it true. Just because Fisher and Sisu say something, that also doesn't make it true either.

 

[James Smith]

I'm not disputing that the council may have said they won't work with SISU.
I was disputing the hysteria that perpetuates that SISU are bad owners.

Anyway their reluctance to deal with SISU seems to be on and off as it suits them! Was your conversation with Maton before or after the council agreed a deal for SISU to buy the ACL mortgage off YB and then reneged on it when they got word of the Byng Dynasty?

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Just to be on the safe side you might want to put:

Was your conversation with Maton before or after the council allegedly agreed a deal for SISU to buy the ACL mortgage off YB and then reneged on it when they got word of the Byng Dynasty?

 

[Otis]

Exactly!

It's all hearsay and rumour and conjecture.

None of us know what actually happened.

 

[torchomatic]

Oh, now I'm confused. I was always told on here that Fisher lied 100% of the time and ACL/PWKH told the truth 100% of the time. My poor brain will explode.

Who reneged on it?

To be honest, it's all conjecture. Just cos ACL say something it doesn't make it true. Just because Fisher and Sisu say something, that also doesn't make it true either.

 

[torchomatic]

Again, why write to Mutton begging him not to sell to SISU then?

The blame is not all on Sisu for sure. Everyone is culpable but we now are where we are.

All I want is simple. The club to play at the Ricoh and to receive all the revenue streams.

 

[Ashdown1]

No you couldn't! We have analysed discontent with SISU on another thread, and most of the reasons don't stand up!..

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threa...and-could-we-expect-any-better-off-new-owners

Unless you want to try again...

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No discontent whatsoever, everything is rosy in the garden !!! ..........................FFS !

 

[grego_gee]

Who reneged on it?

To be honest, it's all conjecture. Just cos ACL say something it doesn't make it true. Just because Fisher and Sisu say something, that also doesn't make it true either.

Just to be on the safe side you might want to put:

Exactly!

It's all hearsay and rumour and conjecture.

None of us know what actually happened.

I agree entirely but its common practice on here for many to recite what ACL/CCC say as gospel,
So I thought I'd try it!

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[James Smith]

So not a charity then.

No, although Sisu seem to think they're a charity case by all accounts.

 

[Otis]

Has anyone actually come out and said they 100% believe what ACL have said?

I can't recall anyone.

There's also not many who totally blame Sisu 100% either.

 

[torchomatic]

Ina similar way that ACL see CCFC as the fatted calf.

No, although Sisu seem to think they're a charity case by all accounts.

 

[torchomatic]

99.9% of posts by quite a few people on here.

Has anyone actually come out and said they 100% believe what ACL have said?

I can't recall anyone.

There's also not many who totally blame Sisu 100% either.

 

[Ashdown1]

Has anyone actually come out and said they 100% believe what ACL have said?

I can't recall anyone.

There's also not many who totally blame Sisu 100% either.

Well said Otis !

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Well said Otis !

Irony or what!

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Oh, now I'm confused. I was always told on here that Fisher lied 100% of the time and ACL/PWKH told the truth 100% of the time. My poor brain will explode.

That, erm...didn't actually happen, did it? :facepalm:


I know one fact though: I believe Fisher 0% of the time. I won't support CCFC if SISU remain as it's all basically as big stinking pile of bullshit!


PS CCFC isn't SISU as you asserted for about the 19th time earlier in this thread!

 

[Colin1883]

Well said Otis !

I blame bSKYb....

 

[Otis]

Who Torch?

I bet it's a very small minority.

Think there are an awful lot of people like myself who think Sisu have been bad for the club, have cocked up, but that also other parties are culpable too.

The bottom line for me is that Sisu need to go for the reason that the people they need to work with say they find them impossible to work with.

This then results in the nonsense of talking of playing elsewhere for at least 3 years and for a new stadium to be built that needs planning, planning permission, construction, public consultation etc. etc.

Think most level headed people on here will say they don't believe we will have a new stadium in 3 years, believing it to be much much longer in the making potentially.

And yet, we have a perfectly decent stadium here in Coventry that is available and is indeed where we should be playing.

 

[Ashdown1]

Irony or what!

Why ? Find some posts from me that state I have believed or agreed with everything ACL the council or any other interested party have said and done !
As I've said before they are culpable for perhaps 10% of the blame in all this, 50 % previous administrations and 40 % SISU !

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Why ? Find some posts from me that state I have believed or agreed with everything ACL the council or any other interested party have said and done !
As I've said before they are culpable for perhaps 10% of the blame in all this, 50 % previous administrations and 40 % SISU !

It's more the mindless abuse you dish out at anybody who tries to offer balance!

 

[torchomatic]

True, I wasn't told. Just reading posts by SBK, SBJ, cloughie, blugloucester, r_b, ashdown and many others show that's the case. So, no I wasn't told, I just worked it out for myself.

That, erm...didn't actually happen, did it? :facepalm:


I know one fact though: I believe Fisher 0% of the time. I won't support CCFC if SISU remain as it's all basically as big stinking pile of bullshit!


PS CCFC isn't SISU as you asserted for about the 19th time earlier in this thread!

 

[torchomatic]

True, I wasn't told. Just reading posts by SBK, SBJ, cloughie, blugloucester, r_b, ashdown and many others show that's the case. So, no I wasn't told, I just worked it out for myself.

That, erm...didn't actually happen, did it? :facepalm:


I know one fact though: I believe Fisher 0% of the time. I won't support CCFC if SISU remain as it's all basically as big stinking pile of bullshit!


PS CCFC isn't SISU as you asserted for about the 19th time earlier in this thread!

 

[Ashdown1]

It's more the mindless abuse you dish out at anybody who tries to offer balance!

Quite frankly you don't offer balance you offer bias and you know it !

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Quite frankly you don't offer balance you offer bias and you know it !

And there's my point well made:facepalm:

 

[Ashdown1]

Its not well made at all, you have a disturbing and suspicious pro hedge fund agenda, constantly defending their destruction of the club and you'd like to see more of them I don't doubt. You are vastly in the minority, most can see that things couldn't really get much worse under almost anyone else !

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Its not well made at all, you have a disturbing and suspicious pro hedge fund agenda, constantly defending their destruction of the club and you'd like to see more of them I don't doubt. You are vastly in the minority, most can see that things couldn't really get much worse under almost anyone else !

...and again

Interesting how 'balance' = 'pro hedge fund agenda'ointlaugh:

You could of course just say 'sorry I was wrong' and that would be the end of it

 

[Ashdown1]

607 posts defending the destroyers of our club ! You must be proud of yourself !

 

[NorthernWisdom]

607 posts defending the destroyers of our club ! You must be proud of yourself !

I'll stop now before noggin spanks me, I just want to make sure this defence of balance and an adult debate about the rights and wrongs of both sides is well recorded:thinking about:

 

[ajsccfc]

You can't criticise someone for being biased when you slag off Carl Baker for saying 'SISU have been alright with me, hopefully some people will still turn up'

 

[torchomatic]

Unfortunately, not everyone is blessed with your high calibre of moral fibre. You must be as equally proud of yourself for "liking" a post where someone said they'd rather the club was liquidated.

607 posts defending the destroyers of our club ! You must be proud of yourself !

 

[torchomatic]

A reminder Otis:

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/17192-Right-a-call-to-action!?

 

[Ashdown1]

You can't criticise someone for being biased when you slag off Carl Baker for saying 'SISU have been alright with me, hopefully some people will still turn up'

Err actually you mis read that or I wasn't clear. I was criticising someone for even bringing it up. Player debates are separate from the ownership debate altogether IMHO !

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

True, I wasn't told. Just reading posts by SBK, SBJ, cloughie, blugloucester, r_b, ashdown and many others show that's the case. So, no I wasn't told, I just worked it out for myself.

So the six years of lies from SISU and the 18 months of Fisher's reign still hasn't convinced you?
All Fisher did last night was "Duck and Dive" most questions by answering with a question.
The most flagrant "Swerve" from Fisher came when SBT offered to "Broker" a meeting between SISU and ACL. The Arsehole was asked approx 5/6 times and he never even answered that point with a question, because he disappeared up his own arse.
A point that should be put forward again tonight, and if not answered with a yes or no, should be asked again on Monday night!:facepalm: