The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

Discussion in 'Off Topic Chat' started by jimmyhillsfanclub, Jun 8, 2016.

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
  1. Remain

    23 vote(s)
    37.1%
  2. Leave

    35 vote(s)
    56.5%
  3. Undecided

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
  4. Not registered or not intention to vote

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  1. Kingokings204

    Kingokings204 Well-Known Member

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    So you agree juncker is a gravy trainer yes?
     
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    Grendel Well-Known Member

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    Are you for real? you have zero interest in the uk just a slavish and deluded obsession with the EU
     
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  3. martcov

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    I think he is handsomely rewarded for what he does. Yes, he is a gravytrainer, but he does at least attend the meetings.
     
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    Grendel Well-Known Member

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    Why? What would happen?
     
  5. Kingokings204

    Kingokings204 Well-Known Member

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    It will do. You're right non eu was more than eu but the big difference is control. You will find that people from non eu countries to come here like my good sri lanken friend studying here tells me.

    He had to pass hard English language exams. Have medical insurance cover and pay for his 4 year uni degree in full (around 70k)
    He also agreed he finds it unfair that a Romania can do everything he is doing but without all of the above. I think that's a fair comment. Don't you?

    That's the point make an immigration system that is fair to everyone and doesn't deter people from further afield. All it shows is how the EU is protectionist again.
     
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  6. martcov

    martcov Well-Known Member

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    I have a big interest in the UK. My family are still there and I am a British Citizen. I am up against delusion, fact twisting and hate of something which some people don't even understand on here, so it might seen as if I'm obsessed when I try and point out facts and other viewpoints. But, you can have your opinion, it is often enough wrong anyway.
     
  7. Kingokings204

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    So does farage? We are constantly told how he berates the EU presidents so he must be attending to do that?

    Both are gravy trainers at least we are agreed.
     
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    Grendel Well-Known Member

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    You haven't quoted any facts - just Euro spin and drivel
     
  9. martcov

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    Could the Romanian study in Sri Lanka? The point is that the Romanian is an EU citizen, the same as you or I and shares the same rights with us. You could study in Romania if you wanted to.
     
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    I see a difference between people having a home and not having a home. It crosses across all nationalities and ages.
     
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    I have loads of times and posted links. I'm not getting involved in this bollocks because you have run out of steam and are on a side show deflection trip.
     
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    yeah, and its all solely due to Juncker and his EU.... we've heard you.
     
  13. Kingokings204

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    I'm guessing the Romanian could but it would be bloody difficult but he can come to the U.K. No questions asked. In the U.K. We have world recognized degrees and qualifications also. Better living standards etc.

    That's again my point why would I want to go to Romania but I can certainly see why he or she would want to come here.
     
  14. Astute

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    So the UK would have to open borders to everyone that lives in India but the EU wouldn't?
     
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    Juncker has a big say in everything. Farage is irrelevant. Or at least I thought that the racist vote is irrelevant to you.
     
  16. martcov

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    You might not want to go to Romania, but you could. That's the point. There may be good reasons to go to Romania now, or in the future. It is a massive country with various different climates. Mountains, the sea, history, countryside, nature... loads of potential.
     
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    Many guess so. Most admit that we don't know. But they are not 100% pro EU like yourself.
     
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    If it is so good why are you in Germany?
     
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    Farage was obsessed with the EU and getting out of it. He was shouting from the rooftops and still turns up with right wing clowns like Bannon and Moor in Alabama and the AfD in Berlin, so as propaganda mouthpiece who has some influence on public opinion, he is relevant.
     
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    You have said a lot of nothings considering you say you won't get involved in bollocks.
     
  21. Kingokings204

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    It also has massive corruption well known and massive poverty. I don't know about health and education but I bet they are not our standards. I don't just want to go to look at the sea in Romania. May as well go skeggy if I want sea.

    Yes I accept your point is I can go to Romania but how many Eastern Europeans are in the U.K. And vice verse. Massive massive difference. Why?

    I'm not against anyone coming here but again the major point is control it and don't discriminate others from New Zealand say. It's not unreasonable to ask they have medical insurance and money and no criminal record surely?
     
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    I cannot be everywhere and I am over 60, so it is too late to start again in another country. But, I have been on holiday there a few times and have driven from the Black Sea through the whole country to Hungary and on to Berlin a couple of times. A mate of mine has a hotel on the Black Sea and I have often visted him there. Great times.
     
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    So the only irrelevance in anything is the Nazi/racist vote in Germany that was an eighth of the voters.
     
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    Not even Romanians want to live in Romania.
     
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    They have reciprical medical insurance and are supposed to find a job within 3 months or leave. With the number of people needed to work in Britain which has full employment you would have a job checking everyone anyway. What is a criminal record - at which level of crime do you refuse a Eurpean entry? He could say he's a tourist and come in anyway.
     
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    There are plenty there.
     
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    413,000 from Romania and Bulgaria disagree they prefer the uk
     
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    I don't know how you get there. Let's see what the AfD say and do now.
     
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    Yes. No doubt doing crap jobs that you wouldn't dream of doing. And, yes there are some scum amonst them. Usually the Roma and Sinti. The Romanians are quite pleased they've gone. I don't understand how they get away with their life style and why no one seems to be able to send them back. All I can say, is that the Romanians that I have had dealings with have been great.
     
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    Not open our borders but make it easier for 1.3 billion Indians to travel, migrate and settle in the UK as part of a free trade agreement between a post brexit UK and India. Not sure why you think a trade deal from a non EU member state and India will effect the EU, it won’t. They already have a free trade deal in place with India and tight controls on movement of people from India to the EU as part of that, nothing is going to change the EU’s relationship with India because we’ve decided to leave. The only parties that us leaving the EU can effect is us and India. India want a free trade agreement but they want a different one to the one they have with the EU and they want that to include a relaxing of the restrictions on movement of people that we currently impose on them as an EU member state.
     
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    An 80% increase in two years
     
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    Interesting. Are they all working? What do you think is happening?
     
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    I think unrestricted labour is entering the uk - I wouldn't know if they are all working. Highly unlikely as I assume many are family units. Some may work for a while then claim citizen status and live here under eu section 28. I wouldn't know.
     
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    So nothing to do with the Irish at all then?

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    Yea it is all Ireland's fault that Britain is leaving the EU.
     
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