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SkyBlueZack

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Ok, this has what to do with my post?

You appear to think the book will cover all goings on such as what I mentioned as you asked why wouldn't they be mentioned. Therefore torch was merely pointing out that Les Reid had asked if his gagging order would be covered in the book. Do you think it will be?
 

armybike

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You appear to think the book will cover all goings on such as what I mentioned as you asked why wouldn't they be mentioned. Therefore torch was merely pointing out that Les Reid had asked if his gagging order would be covered in the book. Do you think it will be?

Yes.
 

Captain Dart

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armybike

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So the chief reporter for the telegraph will reveal in his book that the telegraph he works for gagged a fellow journalist. Which resulted in fellow journalist winning an out of court settlement. Ok.

Yes.

The out of court settlement was regarding unfair dismissal.
 

Nick

Administrator
Yes.

The out of court settlement was regarding unfair dismissal.
Why was he dismissed? Why did he get a pay out? Why did the editor suddenly leave the day les reid stopped his gardening leave and "spoke" again?

That's what makes it look dodgy, unless you know something different?
 

armybike

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Why was he dismissed? Why did he get a pay out? Why did the editor suddenly leave the day les reid stopped his gardening leave and "spoke" again?

That's what makes it look dodgy, unless you know something different?

He wasn't dismissed he resigned.

He'd been suspended as it was viewed he was “too obstinate and arguably insubordinate”. I thought the payout was following him bring his suspension to a hearing which found in his favour.

From what I read, the former editor got a new job and moved on - nothing I'm aware of to suggest the two things are intrinsically linked.
 

Nick

Administrator
He wasn't dismissed he resigned.

He'd been suspended as it was viewed he was “too obstinate and arguably insubordinate”. I thought the payout was following him bring his suspension to a hearing which found in his favour.

From what I read, the former editor got a new job and moved on - nothing I'm aware of to suggest the two things are intrinsically linked.

linked apart from being on the same day wasn't it?

Where is the link for the reason for him being suspended?
 

Nick

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Two things happening on the same day doesn't automatically make them intrinsically linked.

Link as requested - http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/unsac...ho-left-coventry-telegraph-joins-rival-title/
No but after 9 months or whatever it was it makes it a bit of a co incidence doesn't it?

Interesting though as the telegraph will surely be taking action for the libel etc he is tweeting, after all Simon did try a thinly vieled threat once about his editor not liking something on here and action.
 

armybike

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No but after 9 months or whatever it was it makes it a bit of a co incidence doesn't it?

Interesting though as the telegraph will surely be taking action for the libel etc he is tweeting, after all Simon did try a thinly vieled threat once about his editor not liking something on here.

It makes it a coincidence if you want it to I guess. However, the fact there's nothing to support any such link, unless you know different, would just make it opinion.

Why would they surely be taking action? Also not sure how this has ended up with SG being brought into the conversation, when the subject at hand is LR.

Reid wasn't sack, he resigned. He'd been suspended, but following this going to a hearing they found in his favour and he got a pay out. The editor moved to a different role and there's nothing to show this was intrinsically linked with the LR situation - it's possible he thought, sod this for a game of soldiers and decided to move on, but he wasn't sack, dismissed or suspended from his role at CT.
 

Otis

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Yup,a bit premature, the dust hasn't settled yet. And why are there a load of posters slagging it off when then haven't read it or have a clue what it says? It may be nonsense, it may be interesting, I can't tell unless I've read it or at least someone I trust has and publishes a review.
Reminds me of the Life of Brian scenario with local and parish councils! ;)
 

Astute

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Reid wasn't sack, he resigned. He'd been suspended

he wasn't sack, dismissed or suspended from his role at CT.

And you want us to believe what you say when you can't even agree with yourself in the same post :D
 

Nick

Administrator
What I don't get is why if there are some unknown revelations in it, they aren't in the telegraph as exclusives? How does that work, if he knows something amazing and puts them in his book rather than the telegraph
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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What I don't get is why if there are some unknown revelations in it, they aren't in the telegraph as exclusives? How does that work, if he knows something amazing and puts them in his book rather than the telegraph

I bet the Sisu lawyers are sharpening their pencils already as they are due a win soon
 

Astute

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What I don't get is why if there are some unknown revelations in it, they aren't in the telegraph as exclusives? How does that work, if he knows something amazing and puts them in his book rather than the telegraph
1, What would the book be of use to anyone if it had all been in the CET already.

Or

2, His paymasters at the CET wouldn't let certain things go to print because of their closeness to Wasps /CCC. But they can't stop what is going in the book. Maybe he is after an unfair dismissal ;)
 

armybike

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And you want us to believe what you say when you can't even agree with yourself in the same post :D

Honestly, it really helps if you actually read all of the words before firing back comments like this.
 

Astute

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Honestly, it really helps if you actually read all of the words before firing back comments like this.
Well there you go.

I saw what I wanted to see. I could see what you put but made it look different.

You saw the editor leave the same day as one of the people working under him got a settlement for the way he had been treated. And being the editor the odds are that the way he was treated was down to him. But you only see it as a coincidence.
 

torchomatic

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Well there you go.

I saw what I wanted to see. I could see what you put but made it look different.

You saw the editor leave the same day as one of the people working under him got a settlement for the way he had been treated. And being the editor the odds are that the way he was treated was down to him. But you only see it as a coincidence.
I presume he works at Trinity Mirror and knows all the details.

I should think Les will be sued then as he is obviously wrong. Armybike says so.

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JimmyHillsbeard

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Well there you go.

I saw what I wanted to see. I could see what you put but made it look different.

You saw the editor leave the same day as one of the people working under him got a settlement for the way he had been treated. And being the editor the odds are that the way he was treated was down to him. But you only see it as a coincidence.

Similarly it might be a coincidence that despite the assumption from the original press release (new role in the northwest) the ex-editor left journalism to work as a spin doctor (wonder if any of the experience from his CT days was helpful in providing evidence of his ability to spin positive stories for a large organisation?).
 

armybike

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Well there you go.

I saw what I wanted to see. I could see what you put but made it look different.

You saw the editor leave the same day as one of the people working under him got a settlement for the way he had been treated. And being the editor the odds are that the way he was treated was down to him. But you only see it as a coincidence.

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You said I'd disagreed with myself in the same post. No, I was talking about two people.

Also, the editor didn't leave the same day as the settlement.
 

Astute

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You said I'd disagreed with myself in the same post. No, I was talking about two people.

Also, the editor didn't leave the same day as the settlement.
And I suppose the smilie meant nothing.

So you don't find it strange that the editor wad given time to find a job before a settlement was made?
 

italiahorse

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Yes. He's cheer leader for the new breed who prefer London wasps and want the club to die.
Unlike those that follow Sisu and bask in their success ?

Both clubs can be successful it's not either or. It's just CCFC needs to work a little harder at it. Oh yea and get rid of Sisu.
 

armybike

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And I suppose the smilie meant nothing.

So you don't find it strange that the editor wad given time to find a job before a settlement was made?

Right, OK explain in the context of saying "And you want us to believe what you say when you can't even agree with yourself in the same post" the smilie meant? You've tried to call me out for contradicting myself but had actually misread what I said because it was about two people - how does you now highlighting the smilie take away from that.

Make your mind up! First you're trying to say it happened the same day and now that it was strange he was given time to find a job. The editor had moved to a new job before LR had taken the matter to a hearing. The settlement happened several months afterwards.
 

SkyBlueZack

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Unlike those that follow Sisu and bask in their success ?

Both clubs can be successful it's not either or. It's just CCFC needs to work a little harder at it. Oh yea and get rid of Sisu.

Bask in their success? What success would that be? We did well last year for a bit. Didn't hear any songs praising sisu. Meanwhile how many are basking in wasps business success etc? People such as yourself. Stop talking shit. Stick to horses and car parks.
 

Astute

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Unlike those that follow Sisu and bask in their success ?

Both clubs can be successful it's not either or. It's just CCFC needs to work a little harder at it. Oh yea and get rid of Sisu.
What a load of bollocks. So wanting what is best for CCFC is following SISU?

CCFC will have to work a lot harder. Wasps are taking over everything that our club needs but you still preach on the side of Wasps. How are we supposed to be successful without a ground to play in if Wasps continue to refuse to have talks? How are we supposed to be successful if our academy loses its home?
 

Astute

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Right, OK explain in the context of saying "And you want us to believe what you say when you can't even agree with yourself in the same post" the smilie meant? You've tried to call me out for contradicting myself but had actually misread what I said because it was about two people - how does you now highlighting the smilie take away from that.

Make your mind up! First you're trying to say it happened the same day and now that it was strange he was given time to find a job. The editor had moved to a new job before LR had taken the matter to a hearing. The settlement happened several months afterwards.
There you go again. You only see what you want to or won't admit that you see more.
 

italiahorse

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Bask in their success? What success would that be? We did well last year for a bit. Didn't hear any songs praising sisu. Meanwhile how many are basking in wasps business success etc? People such as yourself. Stop talking shit. Stick to horses and car parks.

The nonsense being talked is from those that think Wasps need to fail before CCFC can succeed.
From those that blame Wasps for moving here rather than Sisu for not wanting to buy the stadium fairly.
You guys can keep passing the hair shirt around but at some point Sisu will need to be challenged on here as part of a concerted effort to get rid of the incompetent idiots.
 

armybike

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There you go again. You only see what you want to or won't admit that you see more.

"There you go again." What are you on about?

You've tried to pick fault with my posts, despite actually misreading what I'd said and have also failed to respond to the points I've raised about your subsequent comments.

Also, what does "won't admit that you see more" mean?
 

olderskyblue

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How exactly was les reid gagged?
 

clint van damme

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Unlike those that follow Sisu and bask in their success ?

Both clubs can be successful it's not either or. It's just CCFC needs to work a little harder at it. Oh yea and get rid of Sisu.
First point in bold, can't see it.
2nd point in bold, we all want that, the problem is the way the cartel are behaving means it will soon be irrelevant as the club won't exist.
 

Captain Dart

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How exactly was les reid gagged?
He did not publish anything until the industrial tribunal passed judgement.
Don't know if that was caution or something else stopping him.
Whatever happened the book Les Reid was going to publish about all this?
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/coven...ent-resigns-and-threatens-publisher-tribunal/
Coventry Telegraph political correspondent Les Reid has resigned and warned he may sue publisher Trinity Mirror.

Reid also said it was “good news” editor Alun Thorne is leaving the paper this month.

Announcing his resignation on Twitter, Reid said he was planning a book on the “decline of public interest journalism”.

Reid also said he would be writing more on the subject of Coventry City Football Club, which announced it had sold its stadium to London Wasps.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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What a load of bollocks. So wanting what is best for CCFC is following SISU?

CCFC will have to work a lot harder. Wasps are taking over everything that our club needs but you still preach on the side of Wasps. How are we supposed to be successful without a ground to play in if Wasps continue to refuse to have talks? How are we supposed to be successful if our academy loses its home?

I agree with the fact that CCFC will have to work harder. Problem as I see it though Astute is SISU, let alone CCFC, don't have a pot to piss in so no matter how hard the club and their owners work they will never be able to compete. Sisu are holding out for a result from either this or the next JR as their only means of making some money, their gambling again on our future and if they loose they will just walk away as the club is self sustaining at the moment. The cycle will never break until the litigation comes to a natural conclusion, were in Limbo until then or someone decides to take a punt on us and then its only if they want to sell.
 

Astute

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Also, what does "won't admit that you see more" mean?
You defend CCC. You defend Wasps. You defend CET. You try to blame SISU for everything. Yet you think that you have an unbiased view. Or at least say that you do.
 

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