stupot07
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cel...n-Crabbs-close-shave-with-gay-cure-group.html
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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (69 Viewers)
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clint van damme
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I have a similar opinion about been a tory.
dutchman
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Fred Karno - Governor of the Bank of England - said before the referendum that interest rates would have to rise if Britain voted to leave. He now says interest rates will fall. Was he lying then or is he lying now?
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...cut-likely-brexit-bank-of-england-mark-carney
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...cut-likely-brexit-bank-of-england-mark-carney
dancers lance
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Johnnythespider
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I suppose somebody's already done a joke about a cure for Crabbs
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oldskyblue58
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36678222
With attitudes like this is it any wonder people are frustrated by the bureaucracy of the EU.
This EU Commissioner would rather allow/accept damage (possibly major) to own economies than find a quicker solution to Brexit that would be in everyone's interest
With attitudes like this is it any wonder people are frustrated by the bureaucracy of the EU.
This EU Commissioner would rather allow/accept damage (possibly major) to own economies than find a quicker solution to Brexit that would be in everyone's interest
olderskyblue
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"Under EU law, the bloc cannot negotiate a separate trade deal with one of its own members, hence the commissioner's insistence that the UK must first leave. It is also against EU law for a member to negotiate its own trade deals with outsiders, which means the UK cannot start doing this until after it has left the EU"
I guess these are part of the same laws that other countries ignore when it suits them, and get a slapped wrist as punishment..?
I guess these are part of the same laws that other countries ignore when it suits them, and get a slapped wrist as punishment..?
Well, she cannot personally alter the rules. These things should have been mentioned in the debate beforehand. Why haven't the leavers planned for this before campaigning to leave? She is quoting rules which were in place before the campaign started - as far as I know. The U.K. Voted - knowing that this would happen ( ignorance of the law is no defence ). If is she is correctly stating the rules, she is not allowing anything - damage or otherwise - the rules are.
What a mess! Turkeys voted for Christmas....
I would disagree. Juncker is the main reason for discontent in the EU ( sneaking things in through the back door ) and he must go, but the farce that is unfolding in the UK is frightening others from doing the same. Look at the fate of Boris ( et tu Brutus? Comes to mind ). He led, with Farage, a campaign full of lies and omissions and then having won, was stabbed in the back by his own friend. All around the leavers are broken promises, grim realisations and a scramble for power - whilst the country sinks into political chaos. There won't be many takers for such scenarios.
And here's Martcov again................actually not in Cov or anywhere near, from Germany in fact..............still fucking telling people in England that everything is falling to bits here and everyone is regretting the vote. They're not you plank, there is a financial adjustment that was expected and a political clearout that was inevitable as you cannot have 'Losers' remaining in power. Other than that people are making minor adjustments to plans and timescales and looking forward to a brighter future !
lewys33
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R U OK hun?
My geographical positon is irrelevant - I come from Cov and what I say is what I am observing.
Politically everything is falling to bits - put the TV on or read a paper.
I mentioned Boris being stabbed in the back.... You describe this as "you cannot have losers remaining in power".
Have fun with your Minor adjustments and enjoy your bright future...
eastwoodsdustman
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Sorry Mart but I'd hazard a guess that the Eu falls apart before Britain does.
Boris knows the timing isn't right for him to be in charge. He will be the next leader of the conservatives after Theresa May.
He is a very calculated man despite what his appearance suggests.
We will see, but the fact that NI and Scotland voted to remain means that they won't accept the vote as a mandate to leave. The EU critics are watching this debacle as are their voters. Makes a good case for others not to leave the EU.
Do you mean that Boris' demise at the hands of Gove is only theatre? A calculated defeat?
eastwoodsdustman
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Pretty much so I reckon. He knows that there 'could' be tough times ahead (equally there might not be) and he knows that he polarizes peoples opinions. I see it as a tactical withdrawal for now. I'm sure he will push for the leadership in the future.
As for NI, I think its just the republicans shouting loudest at the moment and Scotland, well, Jimmy Krankie's had her day in the sun and it will all settle back down soon enough. The jocks know their place
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dutchman
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How can May negotiate the best deal for Britain's exit when she voted against it?
Captain Dart
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She'll appoint someone else to front it (a ready made scapegoat). Anyway, it is the civil servants that will do all the legwork.
The sticking points for the poor people doing the leg work will be free movement of labour and a passport for financial services for the city. The EU wants free movement and 'we' don't and the City will lose it's importance if we cannot do a deal for the financial services ( Frankfurt - and to a lesser extent, Dublin and Paris would gain some of the City's business ). It goes without saying that the UK will have to keep paying whilst all this is going on - but without a say in decisions.
The longer the uncertainty drags on the worse for the UK.
We should at least now have a general election whereby the parties can lay out their aims for dealing with the Crisis.
The UK Elected Cameron's tories and now Cameron is finished, the government they voted for is done for. Corbyn should resign and/ or Labour should either split up or nominate a leader capable of winning an election or providing a united opposition.
Yes, a historic decision, but historical for the wrong reasons.
SIR ERNIE
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She can't and she won't. Her election as leader will signal the start of the end of Brexit. It won't happen.
Along the way there will be a General Election and a lot of messy politics but the end result will be that the UK stays in the EU.
stupot07
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Why wouldn't she be able to negotiate the best deal for Brexit? Why does it matter if she voted for or against Brexit?
It could be that the EU negotiators might be more sympathetic to someone who hasn't been bashing them for the last 6 months.
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dutchman
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She already agreed to the terms that Cameron negotiated so she's hardly in a position now to demand better terms. Cameron himself gave that as the reason why he couldn't continue on the role.
Of course they'll be sympathetic since they already know she is a pushover.
stupot07
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Sorry don't get the logic. The leavers want to leave, have been making up lies about nhs and immigration, been quite derogative towards the EU. How does that put them in a strong negotiating position? They can't be in the single market without immigration and movement of people - having used this as the basis of the campaign Gove et al can't renege on this so it means no single market.
Brexit don't even have a plan, its clear from BoJos reaction since the vote, they never expected it to be successful and are panicking, and hoped Cameron would clean up after them.
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It comes to something when we're looking at May as the moderate option!
stupot07
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Johnnythespider
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Shows the shift to the right that has happened in British politics
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SIR ERNIE
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MORE PROBLEMS LOOMING FOR THE EU
Europe was plunged into fresh crisis on Friday as Austria’s courts ordered a re-run of the country’s presidential election.
The constitutional court ruled the election, in which a far-Right candidate was narrowly defeated, would have to be held again because of irregularities in counting postal votes.
The decision will send shockwaves through EU governments already grappling with the consequences of Britain’s vote to leave the bloc.
Mr Hofer campaigned on an openly anti-immigrant platform and carried a Glock pistol on the election trail.
While his party does not want Austria to follow Britain out of the EU, it is calling for radical reform of the bloc and has threatened to hold an “Auxit” referendum if it doesn’t get its way.
Europe was plunged into fresh crisis on Friday as Austria’s courts ordered a re-run of the country’s presidential election.
The constitutional court ruled the election, in which a far-Right candidate was narrowly defeated, would have to be held again because of irregularities in counting postal votes.
The decision will send shockwaves through EU governments already grappling with the consequences of Britain’s vote to leave the bloc.
Mr Hofer campaigned on an openly anti-immigrant platform and carried a Glock pistol on the election trail.
While his party does not want Austria to follow Britain out of the EU, it is calling for radical reform of the bloc and has threatened to hold an “Auxit” referendum if it doesn’t get its way.
The guy is, or almost is, a Nazi. His opponent is a decent guy and I think the Austrians will kick Hofer into touch. BoJo and Hove are mild in comparison. The shockwaves will only be felt if he wins. The error was a technical error in counting postal votes, and no manipulation was found. So Hofer lost the vote and will lose again. Nice to see you enjoying the chance of the extreme right winning something.
Kingokings204
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Martcov, I think the point was more that the far right is emerging all across the eu and that's due to the eu. Failed polices and increased tension over the migrant crisis is giving these types of people a platform.
Le pen in France is doing very well and this guy in Austria who lost by a whisker. That movement in Italy i forget its name now. Greece obviously have many forms now. These guys shouldn't be anywhere near politics or winning but they are.
I'm not gloating at all. It's worrying but Ask yourself why?
Le pen in France is doing very well and this guy in Austria who lost by a whisker. That movement in Italy i forget its name now. Greece obviously have many forms now. These guys shouldn't be anywhere near politics or winning but they are.
I'm not gloating at all. It's worrying but Ask yourself why?
CCFC Germany
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I do not think these right wing view are new and just come out with the so-called "refugee crisis" (wonder what would have happened, if it never had been called that way...) - people are just brave enough to show them again...
Right wing crimes numbers exploding in Germany...
Just a question of time until people have to die. Really scary.
Right wing crimes numbers exploding in Germany...
Just a question of time until people have to die. Really scary.
Almost happened in Cologne. The right wing nut just got 14 years for attempted murder of the mayor..
The brexit anti migration platform has given the closet racists confidence and they are insulting not just EU migrants. These people were always amongst us - the difference is that well known people are blaming immigrants for our problems.