Tony Mowbray (19 Viewers)

Hobo

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Oh come on - this is football not "society" and short term always is more important.

Yes just like our Olympic success just happened this summer. Magical.
 

fernandopartridge

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Oh come on - this is football not "society" and short term always is more important.
That's not correct though. It might be for the farce that is the Premier League, where teams can take a punt due to receiving a guaranteed windfall every season. Not so in our position. We need to stick with Mowbray imo beyond this season and with another summer behind us. The continuing churn of doing the same thing by sacking managers and expecting different results does not work.
 

Hobo

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Oh come on - this is football not "society" and short term always is more important.

Like Schweinsteiger 119,000 a week and played 18 games. . That is short term for you. Depay another. Look at some of the Man City loans!

That is where the disease lies.
 

Gazolba

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2 wins on trot and these threads dont happen

its understandable,but still kneejerk

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In our current position after two wins on the trot, we'll probably still be in the relegation zone.
 

stevefloyd

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I agree. The suggestion that an experienced manager would let oggy dictate systems, tactics, Subs, etc, is laughable.

Mowbray put oggy in charge of defending set pieces when he first arrived, the info in the folder what oggy shows players when they are coming on as sub is who they are marking and what positions they need to be in when defending set pieces.

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That explains a lot then no wonder we are shit at defending set pieces !!
 

higgs

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The results speak for themselves and the list of failed managers are as long as ur arm so the coaches can't be too good as a result. We are leaking goals. Apart from kirkland in tho last 30yrs how many goal keepers have we developed and got money for?

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baldy

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The results speak for themselves and the list of failed managers are as long as ur arm so the coaches can't be too good as a result. We are leaking goals. Apart from kirkland in tho last 30yrs how many goal keepers have we developed and got money for?

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Plus Mowbray used to be a defender so surely he'd know a fair bit about defending too as well as that other famous ex-centre half Oggy
 

steve82

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CCFC signed him from then league one side Carlisle for around 600k who as was said he was named in the league one team of the season. He had already spent 4 seasons at Carlisle when we signed him so was establishing himself in league one.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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We've always had good keepers at Ccfc.

Oggy
Hedman
Filan
Westwood
Murphy

It's only know you can see our wage bill can only afford youth players. Mogga said last season he doesn't want to spend the little money he has on getting a new goalkeeper. Aka an experienced one as that will cost more money.
 

Grendel

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We've always had good keepers at Ccfc.

Oggy
Hedman
Filan
Westwood
Murphy

It's only know you can see our wage bill can only afford youth players. Mogga said last season he doesn't want to spend the little money he has on getting a new goalkeeper. Aka an experienced one as that will cost more money.

Post Hedman we had

hydergard
Shearer
Debec
 

Fergusons_Beard

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Very interesting read from Mowbray about missing out on signings. Also should put a lot of this thread to bed.

There are loads of other clubs in the same situation-ones that couldn't get the signings they wanted.

I'd rather have no players than crap ones signed because we are desperate.

Keep the faith


It went in off Ferguson's beard....
 

Nick

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Just read it.

From reading that, I have a feeling he set his sights too high (like with Wilson) and tried to gamble on getting players above this level.

Also the budget is pretty much the same as last year.
 

chiefdave

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From reading that, I have a feeling he set his sights too high (like with Wilson) and tried to gamble on getting players above this level.
That's how it reads to me, looks like he was going after Championship level players and they were holding out for, and got, better offers. A dangerous game to play now that there are no loans once the window closes.

January is never great for recruitment, although given the new loan rules that may change, so this could be pretty much it for this season and we might have to lower our expectations. If we can get the kids some experience, get a top half finish and most importantly then not sell them all so we have to start again then perhaps this could be the start of the 2 year plan that was supposed to start last season.
 

Grendel

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He's been a huge disappointment.

From the position we were in last season at the turn if the year their is no excuse for failing to make the play offs. It was unacceptable and the recovery at the end made it even worse.

His decision to then let players go and have no alternatives in place was almost amateurish.

The club have always plundered the market after the transfer deadline in August with various managers - he knew that option was not available. So he had to maximise the budget. To not do so is criminal.

What we have is a competent enough defence and a mediocre midfield. We have an untried attack force all trying to adapt to a system that's clearly not targeted at getting the best from them.

It's a cluster fuck.
 

Captain Dart

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mowbray confirms budget is same as last year

once again council lovers shown up as liars

He did not answer the question directly. He said budget has "not changed significantly", what that means is unclear.
 

chiefdave

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"not changed significantly", what that means is unclear
What he actually said was “You’d have to ask Mark (Venus) but if it has changed it hasn’t changed significantly”. To me that says that Venus handles the details of the budget but there is no real difference from Mowbrays POV so he's looking at players of the same calibre, or at least cost, he could look at last season.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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Mowbray is overseeing a shocking spell of from since last December.
He is a manager on the decline and it shows.
Why can't we ever have an upcoming manager?
 

rupert_bear

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When we initially got Mowbray a mate a West Brom fan praised his time at Albion and said he played good easy on the eye football but did did say he's as stubborn as a mule and will not alter the way he plays or his system it looks like that's the case now
 

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