Mediation talks underway (2 Viewers)

skybluetony176

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I have simply said that entering discussions to stop legal wranglings must be a good thing for WASPs ( if they are intended to be involved in such )
I assume you disagree?

Ate you expecting a SISU victory in JR2 then?
 

KG7

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What about the land on the other side of the train track? That belongs to ACL doesn't it? Any reason why another stadium with academy can't be built there?


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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
I have simply said that entering discussions to stop legal wranglings must be a good thing for WASPs ( if they are intended to be involved in such )
I assume you disagree?
As I see it the legal battle will go on regardless of discussions.
In fact I be pretty certain there might be legal implications if the parties are talking while legal battle is going on.
Also would the legal battle be watered down if parties are talking outside th courts.

For me (and Wasps) nothing can move on until the legals are out the way. The sooner they start the better and hopefully they can complete before the existing deal finishes.
 

oldfiver

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Surely it must meet their approval if they can avoid any legal or other disputes

Why does he say that? How would he know? Or why say that legal costs can be avoided if CCFC are going for the Butts? It is supposed to be SISU and not CCFC JR2. Joy's thing rather than Tim's.
I did not mention legal costs and their avoidance by going to Butts and the article says "It is understood the Football League, Coventry City Council, and the football club’s parent company Sisu have agreed to take part in the process."
 

oldfiver

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As I see it the legal battle will go on regardless of discussions.
In fact I be pretty certain there might be legal implications if the parties are talking while legal battle is going on.
Also would the legal battle be watered down if parties are talking outside th courts.

For me (and Wasps) nothing can move on until the legals are out the way. The sooner they start the better and hopefully they can complete before the existing deal finishes.

You need to read up on the Court's current thinking on Mediations.
 

shmmeee

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All this shit smack talk on behalf of rival news organisations makes me think of a low rent version of this:

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oldfiver

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What about the land on the other side of the train track? That belongs to ACL doesn't it? Any reason why another stadium with academy can't be built there?


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Can the Council afford to fund them?
Any way at the Council meeting approving the sale to WASPS, Lucas said WASP's would develop an Academy THERE not at Higgs
 

Moff

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Whats benefitting financially from Wasps got to do with saying CCFC at the Ricoh is the only option? It makes no difference financially to me whether CCFC are here or not.
Hardly a Wasps mouthpiece posting on here.
You need to show me where I talk Wasps up as well. My reasoning is what is realistic for CCFC.
If slagging off Sisu and pointing out there shit policies is the reason the I'm guilty as charged.
Love to be advised how discussions can take place between all parties when Sisu are taking CCC and Wasps to court ?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

That is the funniest thing you have ever posted, and that is saying something amongst your ramblings.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
Why don't you grow up and stop accusing anyone who disagrees with your turgid monotonies that they either agree with Tim or are a Sisu supporter.
Just like everyone who hates sisu and backs the Ricoh being a Wasps fan.
Fuck me I have even been accused of that a few times.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
What have I made up? I asked a question, I didn't make a statement. The clue was the question mark at the end of the sentence.
That is the usual answer they throw at you when they have no answer or are against the wall.
Nicks favorate comment:)
 

dongonzalos

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EXCLUSIVE: Mediation talks under way to keep Coventry City in city involving MPs

Interesting part of the article:

Coventry City have already taken part in preliminary discussions and have set a three-point remit in notifying the MP they are calling for “active not passive support from Coventry City Council” regarding…

  • “Putting Coventry City front and centre-stage in the community.”
  • A future stadium solution for the football club, with the club’s preferred option remaining a return to an inner-city home at an expanded Butts Park Arena, groundsharing with Coventry rugby club in a stadium of potentially 15,000 to 25,000 capacity.
  • A future home for the club’s ‘lifeblood’ youth academy, with one potential aim of relocating it next to a new training facility.
It is understood the Football League, Coventry City Council, and the football club’s parent company Sisu have agreed to take part in the process.

Like the idea of this but don't trust SISU to obtain the planning permission for 25k or even starting with 15k capacity.
Two requirements I would hope would be demanded before anything happens.
 

italiahorse

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Why don't you grow up and stop accusing anyone who disagrees with your turgid monotonies that they either agree with Tim or are a Sisu supporter.
It's a statement based on Reid regurgitating the Sisu line after every headline and old fiver going along with it.
Nothing to do about growing up although it is a bit monotonous you keep saying that rather than make your own contribution.
 
I don't wish to p**s on anyone's chips (especially Mr Reid's), but if we are aiming to ground share at The Butts, the fact that CRFC aren't involved in the talks would seem a bit odd.
Also, CRFC chairman Mr Sharpe clearly stated, in public and only a month or so ago, that there was "no way he would make any deals with SISU".
Methinks this is a genuine attempt at mediation, which our owners are hijacking, as a smokescreen, to make it look like they are 'trying to find a solution' (yet again).
 

Liquid Gold

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Italia is only in it for his own financial gain and will twist any argument to suit his needs. Of all the people I disagree with on here, and there are many, his is the only opinion that can be disregarded. Especially when talking about wasps. Stick him on block as he is brilliant at taking a thread off track to defect negative attention away from his favourite London rooted sporting team.
 

dongonzalos

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I don't wish to p**s on anyone's chips (especially Mr Reid's), but if we are aiming to ground share at The Butts, the fact that CRFC aren't involved in the talks would seem a bit odd.
Also, CRFC chairman Mr Sharpe clearly stated, in public and only a month or so ago, that there was "no way he would make any deals with SISU".
Methinks this is a genuine attempt at mediation, which our owners are hijacking, as a smokescreen, to make it look like they are 'trying to find a solution' (yet again).

Most important point.
How are the rugby club not involved.
Also this has been leaked as it will become the whole agenda of tonight's meeting
 

1940oldfive

Active Member
I did not mention legal costs and their avoidance by going to Butts and the article says "It is understood the Football League, Coventry City Council, and the football club’s parent company Sisu have agreed to take part in the process."
so which team are you going to kick out of the butts? has there are already three teams playing there,
 

Captain Dart

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Well giblet your 5am exclusive has gone for a shitter
Which was only a rehash of the Wasps Feb interim accounts with an opinion from this Carvell bloke about refinancing etc.
 

Captain Dart

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Can the Council afford to fund them?
Any way at the Council meeting approving the sale to WASPS, Lucas said WASP's would develop an Academy THERE not at Higgs
How on earth can Wasps finance their £7M barn thing? I think they have to find grants or a benefactor from somewhere.
 

Grendel

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Which was only a rehash of the Wasps Feb interim accounts with an opinion from this Carvell bloke about refinancing etc.

You follow Gilbert on Twitter don't you? Suggest you tell him to stop making you look like an idiot by starting threads on here about absolutely nothing.
 

chiefdave

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How on earth can Wasps finance their £7M barn thing? I think they have to find grants or a benefactor from somewhere.
The original plan was to get someone else to pay for it via sponsorship. As work in it has now been delayed I presume they haven't been very successful finding a sponsor.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
these starting requirements put forward - all stuff we can get behind

  • “Putting Coventry City front and centre-stage in the community.”
  • A future stadium solution for the football club, with the club’s preferred option remaining a return to an inner-city home at an expanded Butts Park Arena, groundsharing with Coventry rugby club in a stadium of potentially 15,000 to 25,000 capacity.
  • A future home for the club’s ‘lifeblood’ youth academy, with one potential aim of relocating it next to a new training facility.

Just to play devils advocate turn it around and consider what the response could be (not saying its my view, fact or what will be)

“Putting Coventry City front and centre-stage in the community.” Well a good sentiment but what does it mean. Does it conflict with City of Rugby that CCC /CSF etc are invested in? Why would CCC tone down its support for Rugby or Wasps? What does CCFC offer that Wasps do not other than history & heritage? What are CCFC prepared to fund to achieve this? What are the CCFC plans and ideas that CCC could get behind

"A future stadium solution for the football club, with the club’s preferred option remaining a return to an inner-city home at an expanded Butts Park Arena, ground sharing with Coventry rugby club in a stadium of potentially 15,000 to 25,000 capacity" Show us the plans. Proof of funds. What are the infra structure improvements required. How much will it cost CCC. Why is it that option viable. What are the plans & commitments to rebuilding CCFC. How will it work between CCFC & CRFC how does CCC fit in. Timescales. How does it make CCFC better off

"A future home for the club’s ‘lifeblood’ youth academy, with one potential aim of relocating it next to a new training facility." Is it viable. Can club afford Academy in L2. What is going to happen to the funds from sale of Ryton. What site has been identified. Proof of funds to build it. is anywhere suitable available/affordable

Finally and probably vital is what are CCFC/SISU prepared to compromise on

Given the very public stance of CCC and Wasps regarding no talks whilst legals are going on then I cant help thinking activating the JR2 now makes mediation cosmetic at this stage. But that's just my opinion
 

dongonzalos

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these starting requirements put forward - all stuff we can get behind

  • “Putting Coventry City front and centre-stage in the community.”
  • A future stadium solution for the football club, with the club’s preferred option remaining a return to an inner-city home at an expanded Butts Park Arena, groundsharing with Coventry rugby club in a stadium of potentially 15,000 to 25,000 capacity.
  • A future home for the club’s ‘lifeblood’ youth academy, with one potential aim of relocating it next to a new training facility.
Just to play devils advocate turn it around and consider what the response could be (not saying its my view, fact or what will be)

“Putting Coventry City front and centre-stage in the community.” Well a good sentiment but what does it mean. Does it conflict with City of Rugby that CCC /CSF etc are invested in? Why would CCC tone down its support for Rugby or Wasps? What does CCFC offer that Wasps do not other than history & heritage? What are CCFC prepared to fund to achieve this? What are the CCFC plans and ideas that CCC could get behind

"A future stadium solution for the football club, with the club’s preferred option remaining a return to an inner-city home at an expanded Butts Park Arena, ground sharing with Coventry rugby club in a stadium of potentially 15,000 to 25,000 capacity" Show us the plans. Proof of funds. What are the infra structure improvements required. How much will it cost CCC. Why is it that option viable. What are the plans & commitments to rebuilding CCFC. How will it work between CCFC & CRFC how does CCC fit in. Timescales. How does it make CCFC better off

"A future home for the club’s ‘lifeblood’ youth academy, with one potential aim of relocating it next to a new training facility." Is it viable. Can club afford Academy in L2. What is going to happen to the funds from sale of Ryton. What site has been identified. Proof of funds to build it. is anywhere suitable available/affordable

Finally and probably vital is what are CCFC/SISU prepared to compromise on

Given the very public stance of CCC and Wasps regarding no talks whilst legals are going on then I cant help thinking activating the JR2 now makes mediation cosmetic at this stage. But that's just my opinion

Thats all been leaked as it will be the mantra for tonight.
Unfortunately the odd one will be taken in, not many mind but the odd one will.

Hope the folks going tonight don't get fobbed off with this leaked story about mediation and

CCFC want the council to put them front and centre
Want the Butts to be their stadium option.

Please point out the fact that SISU have changed this rhetoric so many times.

Never return to Coventry
Plan A new stadium Coventry area
Plan A Long term at Ricoh
Plan B new stadium Coventry area
Plan B the Butts
The preferred option is the Butts but there is another site identified.
Plan A new stadium and training/ Academy facility.

Why is your preferred option one that CRFC are saying they are not interested in?
Where is your submission of planning permission for the Butts?
With the apparent knock back at the Butts, why haven't you purchased the other land.
If you went to the Butts you still need to build the separate training centre and academy so what have you not bought the land for this?

The smokescreen has well and truely been set don't fall for it.

How is MR going to get more funds next year when revenue will go down and you arevadament about breaking even?

How have you repeatedly identified the wrong managers, could it be your decision making that is actually the problem not managers?

Do SISU understand that by not breaking even and actually spending a relatively small amount next year we could have one of the best budgets in division 4. For once we would then raise revenue as oppose to cutting it to try and breakeven.

What are your plans for raising revenue all you ever do is cut?
 
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