What's the possibility of us being at The Butts next season? (15 Viewers)

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Irish Sky Blue

Irish Sky Blue

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The Ricoh is an identikit stadium but over time would have been developed no doubt into a more personalised one. It is very similar to the King Power Stadium and loads of times I have heard pundits say what a great atmosphere the Leicester fans generate. The difference is that they have had success and fill the stadium and we have got Sisu and don't. A bit of success, starting this season and things can begin to change.
 
Irish Sky Blue

Irish Sky Blue

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Ranjit Bhurpa said:
Agree with all that, had similar thoughts at the time. However that was when we were a middling Championship team with aspirations of the Premier League.
The game changer for me was when the rug was pulled from under our feet. Not the move to Sixfields but the arrival of W*sps to a stadium that was built for us. And every time I go, it's the constant reminders that we are the second rate tenants. The first thing I see when rounding the corner from Rowleys Green Lane is the W*sps club shop, formerly the CCFC club shop and the hackles start to rise.
So whatever love I had for the Ricoh has long since gone I'm afraid - and it's nothing to do with low crowds or the lack of any atmosphere.
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I know what you mean about all the Wasps stuff. They shouldn't be there. Interesting to see how loyal their "fan base" will be if they continue losing. Wouldn't it be great if they got relegated and Cov (rugby) got promoted? I wonder how some of the Coventry Wasps "fans" would feel about supporting "their" team against Coventry's historic and proper rugby team?
I think that one day that stadium which was built for Coventry City will belong to Coventry City. I hope that when the change over happens we are owned by people who love the club and not Fisher and his mates.
 
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Ashdown

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clint van damme said:
For me it's an identikit bowl and there is nothing going on around it to enhance the day out. That won't change whether there's 3,000 or 30,000 in it.

Having said that, I'd be over the moon to read tomorrow that we'd signed a long term deal to play there.
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If there was 30,000 in it regular, then trust me the facilities around the stadium would all improve too.
 
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RB1992

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Otis said:
Yeah, who ever heard of a football fan eating before or after a game.
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skybluetony176 said:
Football fans gambling? Never.
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So you judge a stadium based on how many fast food chains or franchise restaurants are nearby? Or whether or not it has a casino attached that serves watered down, pissy £5 lager?

No wonder the match day experience at the Ricoh is so stale with cretins like you in there.
 
Otis

Otis

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RB1992 said:
So you judge a stadium based on how many fast food chains or franchise restaurants are nearby? Or whether or not it has a casino attached that serves watered down, pissy £5 lager?

No wonder the match day experience at the Ricoh is so stale with cretins like you in there.
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Nice. Thanks for that.

Please point to where I have said I judge a football stadium based on fast food places or restaurants...... oh, that's right, you can't, because I never said it.

I merely responded to someone saying there was nothing there around the Ricoh.

Now who appears to be the cretin?

And then of course we have Grendel liking it. Priceless. Ha!! :cigar:
 
Otis

Otis

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Otis said:
Nice. Thanks for that.

Please point to where I have said I judge a football stadium based on fast food places or restaurants...... oh, that's right, you can't, because I never said it.

I merely responded to someone saying there was nothing there around the Ricoh.

Now who appears to be the cretin?

And then of course we have Grendel liking it. Priceless. Ha!! :cigar:
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The actual quote was from Clint and it said 'there was nothing around to enhance the day.' I just pointed out that there was stuff around and I would say getting something decent to eat would indeed help enhance your day.

So, again I say, nowhere have I said I judge the stadium based on restaurants and fast food places.

Cretin.

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skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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RB1992 said:
So you judge a stadium based on how many fast food chains or franchise restaurants are nearby? Or whether or not it has a casino attached that serves watered down, pissy £5 lager?

No wonder the match day experience at the Ricoh is so stale with cretins like you in there.
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I’m the sort of cretin who sings every word of every song, applauds and cheers everything, never boo’s, never goes down early for halftime, never leaves early and isn’t precious about what competition we’re playing at. I get to as many games as I can and if the atmosphere is flat this cretin isn’t contributing to it being flat. The opposite in fact.

You’re talking bollocks. It’s cretins like you who are going out their way to be negative about the ground who probably contribute nothing to the atmosphere that bring the match day experience down but rather than make it what you want it to be you’d rather sit around feeling sorry for yourself blaming everything else. Cheer up for fucks sake and while you’re doing that try growing up at the same time.
 
Ranjit Bhurpa

Ranjit Bhurpa

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Otis said:
The actual quote was from Clint and it said 'there was nothing around to enhance the day.' I just pointed out that there was stuff around and I would say getting something decent to eat would indeed help enhance your day.

So, again I say, nowhere have I said I judge the stadium based on restaurants and fast food places.

Cretin.

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I'm not really bothered about the peripheral stuff, it's more what's on offer once I've gone through the turnstiles Otis. Many of the bars and food outlets with the shutters down, overpriced rubbish at the ones that are open and the feeling that the whole concourse area, toilet facilities etc could do with a lick of paint.
 
Otis

Otis

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Ranjit Bhurpa said:
I'm not really bothered about the peripheral stuff, it's more what's on offer once I've gone through the turnstiles Otis. Many of the bars and food outlets with the shutters down, overpriced rubbish at the ones that are open and the feeling that the whole concourse area, toilet facilities etc could do with a lick of paint.
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Yeah agree.

I never have bought anything at the ground. Never bought a drink, or food and have never been in the casino. For me it is all about the football. I go up, watch the game and go back home.

All I look for in a football stadium is a good atmosphere and a good view. The views at the Ricoh are excellent and I'm convinced that if we had success the atmosphere would be great too.

Takes me 45-50 mins to walk it to the ground, but that doesn't bother me in the slightest. I just want to go and watch the City play.

Used to park in Tesco, but they clamped down, so now I walk. Doesn't change anything for me.
 
letsallsingtogether

letsallsingtogether

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skybluetony176 said:
I’m the sort of cretin who sings every word of every song, applauds and cheers everything, never boo’s, never goes down early for halftime, never leaves early and isn’t precious about what competition we’re playing at. I get to as many games as I can and if the atmosphere is flat this cretin isn’t contributing to it being flat. The opposite in fact.

You’re talking bollocks. It’s cretins like you who are going out their way to be negative about the ground who probably contribute nothing to the atmosphere that bring the match day experience down but rather than make it what you want it to be you’d rather sit around feeling sorry for yourself blaming everything else. Cheer up for fucks sake and while you’re doing that try growing up at the same time.
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Yes quite funny that they moan about the idiots in block 15 and 16 but without them there would be no atmosphere at all.
Btw I am one of those idiots.
 
Ranjit Bhurpa

Ranjit Bhurpa

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letsallsingtogether said:
So where can we go to feel at home surely not the Butts.
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I don't feel anywhere feels like home and hasn't done for some time. For many reasons, the Butts would be a total no no for me.
The best hope I think is as suggested by Irish Sky Blue in #109 where one day, the Ricoh will be owned by CCFC and run by people who love the Club. Yes, much needs to change before that could happen, but without hope we don't really have a lot else whilst in limbo.
 
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RB1992

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Otis said:
Yeah agree.

I never have bought anything at the ground. Never bought a drink, or food and have never been in the casino. For me it is all about the football. I go up, watch the game and go back home.

All I look for in a football stadium is a good atmosphere and a good view. The views at the Ricoh are excellent and I'm convinced that if we had success the atmosphere would be great too.

Takes me 45-50 mins to walk it to the ground, but that doesn't bother me in the slightest. I just want to go and watch the City play.

Used to park in Tesco, but they clamped down, so now I walk. Doesn't change anything for me.
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You sound like a barrel of fun.
 
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Ashdown

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Otis said:
I am. Everyone says so. A very happy, smiley friendly chap.

I apologize profusely for only wanting to go and watch a football match and then go home to my wonderful 13 year old daughter to spend happy times together.
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Don't forget the wife mate !
 
Otis

Otis

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Ashdown said:
Don't forget the wife mate !
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I deliberately left her out on purpose.:)

I would travel the entire globe just to spend half an hour with my daughter.

With my wife? Maybe 10 seconds on the outskirts of Exhall.
 
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oldskyblue58

oldskyblue58

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really do not understand the ambition to be at the BPA in its current state or with temporary stands. If it were a nice new 12000 capacity stadium with all the infra structure in place then fair enough to a degree, but it isn't and it is a long way from that. It certainly has no great history attached to it. I very much doubt that anything will be available next season at BPA that is even close to suitable or what we expect, especially if we get promoted.

You could put up temporary stands perhaps but what about the facilities to support them ? Let alone the issues surrounding access and exit for pedestrians and traffic

It still wouldn't be ours, which still means paying a rent. We would still be the junior partner with CRFC branding taking precedence on their ground

I can remember many games at HR where the atmosphere was poor, it generally got better when the bigger teams turned up

The biggest downside of the Ricoh is the atmosphere at CCFC matches. Is that the stadium or the people in it? Primarily people make the atmosphere and that's far easier with a successful team. Have been there at the Olympic events and the place rocked with atmosphere. CCFC has never had success there other than last season - was the atmosphere at the semi final that bad? was the ground full? The place is what you make of it...... sadly in and behind the scenes we make very little of it, never have. The CCFC owners have quite deliberately encouraged a detachment from it helped by failure where it really counts - on the pitch

Will we be at the BPA next season ? I wouldn't have thought so. If we are I certainly do not see it as a step forward or for the better.
 
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Colin Steins Smile

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oldskyblue58 said:
really do not understand the ambition to be at the BPA in its current state or with temporary stands. If it were a nice new 12000 capacity stadium with all the infra structure in place then fair enough to a degree, but it isn't and it is a long way from that. It certainly has no great history attached to it. I very much doubt that anything will be available next season at BPA that is even close to suitable or what we expect, especially if we get promoted.

You could put up temporary stands perhaps but what about the facilities to support them ? Let alone the issues surrounding access and exit for pedestrians and traffic

It still wouldn't be ours, which still means paying a rent. We would still be the junior partner with CRFC branding taking precedence on their ground

I can remember many games at HR where the atmosphere was poor, it generally got better when the bigger teams turned up

The biggest downside of the Ricoh is the atmosphere at CCFC matches. Is that the stadium or the people in it? Primarily people make the atmosphere and that's far easier with a successful team. Have been there at the Olympic events and the place rocked with atmosphere. CCFC has never had success there other than last season - was the atmosphere at the semi final that bad? was the ground full? The place is what you make of it...... sadly in and behind the scenes we make very little of it, never have. The CCFC owners have quite deliberately encouraged a detachment from it helped by failure where it really counts - on the pitch

Will we be at the BPA next season ? I wouldn't have thought so. If we are I certainly do not see it as a step forward or for the better.
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Spot on Old Sky Blue. I can remember games at Highfield Road with 14,000 in the crowd and a very flat atmosphere. However, the good days of seeing us make the "great escapes" like beating Man Utd at home 2-0 with Curtis & Blockley dominating their forward line was magical!

I'm not sure if I've missed something, but what makes people think that BPA is a realistic option for the club? The last reports I saw stated that the Rugby Club were not interested.....have I missed some new discussions?
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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In fairness to the Ricoh, when the crowd is over 12-13k as long as they're together the atmosphere is decent. The JPT games against Preston in 2013 and Wycombe last year showed that.

The acoustics are far better than Highfield Rd's as the relatively high roof helps noise reverberate.
 
Otis

Otis

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oldskyblue58 said:
really do not understand the ambition to be at the BPA in its current state or with temporary stands. If it were a nice new 12000 capacity stadium with all the infra structure in place then fair enough to a degree, but it isn't and it is a long way from that. It certainly has no great history attached to it. I very much doubt that anything will be available next season at BPA that is even close to suitable or what we expect, especially if we get promoted.

You could put up temporary stands perhaps but what about the facilities to support them ? Let alone the issues surrounding access and exit for pedestrians and traffic

It still wouldn't be ours, which still means paying a rent. We would still be the junior partner with CRFC branding taking precedence on their ground

I can remember many games at HR where the atmosphere was poor, it generally got better when the bigger teams turned up

The biggest downside of the Ricoh is the atmosphere at CCFC matches. Is that the stadium or the people in it? Primarily people make the atmosphere and that's far easier with a successful team. Have been there at the Olympic events and the place rocked with atmosphere. CCFC has never had success there other than last season - was the atmosphere at the semi final that bad? was the ground full? The place is what you make of it...... sadly in and behind the scenes we make very little of it, never have. The CCFC owners have quite deliberately encouraged a detachment from it helped by failure where it really counts - on the pitch

Will we be at the BPA next season ? I wouldn't have thought so. If we are I certainly do not see it as a step forward or for the better.
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Totally agree.
 
oldskyblue58

oldskyblue58

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copy of the BPA planning history
Reference number Received date Valid Date Site location Proposed development
R/2005/7540 21/11/2005 21/11/2005 Butts Park Arena Butts Coventry Felling of sycamore marked as part of G3 on Tree Preservation Order 213 (Butts No. 1)
FUL/2010/1823 18/11/2010 02/12/2010 Coventry Rugby Club Butts Park Arena The Butts COVENTRY CV1 3GE Change of use of part of existing ground floor hospitality facility forming part of rugby stadium to a mixed use as hospitality facility forming part of rugby stadium and private members club.
TP/2016/2206 05/09/2016 05/09/2016 Butts Park Arena Butts Coventry CV1 3GE All trees identified to plan - Crown lift to approx. 6m.
FUL/2017/2081 16/08/2017 21/08/2017 Butts Park Arena Butts Coventry CV1 3GE Retention of portacabins and proposed new gym in relation to the arena

Hardly convincing of a CCFC move there
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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It was summer when we confirmed Sixfields wasn't it? So can't be before the end of the season.
 
Londonccfcfan

Londonccfcfan

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fernandopartridge said:
In fairness to the Ricoh, when the crowd is over 12-13k as long as they're together the atmosphere is decent. The JPT games against Preston in 2013 and Wycombe last year showed that.

The acoustics are far better than Highfield Rd's as the relatively high roof helps noise reverberate.
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Excellent examples, felt the crowd of 11k was as one stunning atmosphere especially wycombe in the semi final.

Just gos to show.
 
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