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lifeskyblue
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Good luck to him. Can affect anyone. Hope he and his family fight it together and come out stronger.
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skybluetony176
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Horrible condition. Wish him all the best and hope he can keep on top of it.
clint van damme
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it's great that more and more people feel comfortable to speak out about this condition in public and fair play to him for doing so. Hopefully it's a small step on the road to at least coping with his illness.
stevefloyd
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Poor chap depression is really really shite
covcity4life
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good man chris, keep fighting the good fight brother
Sky Blue Pete
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Absolutely right
MusicDating
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And the hope is that in the future because of brave people like Chris and Flintoff and Helen Richardson-Walsh, it's just seen as normal to discuss mental health issues.
Covstu
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Very emotional piece, heart really goes out to him. A lot is said about the life of a footballer and the vast riches that they get etc... I think the fact that they have to compact their whole life into basically 10 years puts a lot of pressure on each individual and for a depression sufferer this must be awful.
He was a great goalkeeper for us and deserved his big move (albeit still cannot believe we got £8M) but goes to show that there isn't enough due diligence around mental issues as there is around physical.
I hope his academy is successful and would be great to have someone like CK back at Cov when oggy finally calls it a day.
He was a great goalkeeper for us and deserved his big move (albeit still cannot believe we got £8M) but goes to show that there isn't enough due diligence around mental issues as there is around physical.
I hope his academy is successful and would be great to have someone like CK back at Cov when oggy finally calls it a day.
Liquid Gold
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I can't believe Liverpool left him in Istanbul and gave his medal to someone else. Fucking disgraceful behaviour.
mechaishida
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I believe depression has a definite spectrum. At the higher end, the darkness is choking, and from experience, it can only be managed; not cured.
I have been unfortunate to meet many people who believe depression is either an excuse, or over exaggerated. Nothing could be further from the truth, and what I find worrying is the sharp incline of cases of clinical depression in this so-called 'modern age'.
Everyone is touched by depression in their lives, either personally or directly; if you're fortunate, both instances will be minor.
All the best to Chris, by the way.
I have been unfortunate to meet many people who believe depression is either an excuse, or over exaggerated. Nothing could be further from the truth, and what I find worrying is the sharp incline of cases of clinical depression in this so-called 'modern age'.
Everyone is touched by depression in their lives, either personally or directly; if you're fortunate, both instances will be minor.
All the best to Chris, by the way.
shmmeee
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As a sufferer, this thread gives me hope TBH. I remember the reaction when Collymore came out as a depressive: “what’s he got to be sad about!?” Compare that to the reactions in this thread. Massive improvement.
shmmeee
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Agree with most of that, but I don’t buy the “career is only ten years” crap TBH. There’s loads of professions with an average career expectancy of a few years: finance and teaching spring to mind. It’s just accepted that you’ll burn out and do something else. Being moderately famous as most footballers are, even if just locally, provides more opportunity than most career changers. So, illnesses like Kirkland’s aside, they don’t get any sympathy from me.
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RB1992
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I think it all boils down to that question though - is depression real? Or is he just saying this to make a few bob now he's packed in playing?
Greggs
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You prick
covmark
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Just hope that you never have the misfortune of having to deal with anxiety or depression you nob.
What he says is real. Glad he's on the mend.
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RB1992
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Excuse me? This was a genuine question and was in fact the topic for a particularly heated debate on LBC just a few weeks ago.
I know many people who claim to suffer from mental illness and would never do anything to belittle or play down their conditions.
How dare you respond to me like that?
Here here.
What a knob you really are.
Nick
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Fair play to him for speaking about it.
I know a lot of the emphasis is on people who are suffering to speak out but I think there should be more on how to help people who are suffering. When I was a bit younger I don't think me or my mates would have a clue on how to really help, it would have been a jab on the arm and tell them to stop being gay and let's go down the pub for a few games of pool and a pint or a FIFA / PES tournament round one of our houses. It wasn't that we didn't want to help or didn't care, that would have just been our way of trying to help without really knowing the best way to deal with it properly.
I can see why footballers do have issues and turn to things like gambling or drinking to take their mind away from things, especially when they are injured.
Apart from Lennon, there aren't really many footballers I can think of where they have publicly not been able to play because of a mental issue, imagine for a minute Jodi Jones (just an example) was really suffering and couldn't physically play at the weekend because of battling a mental issue. There is no way the club would say it was that, it would be that he had a bug or something like that so missed the game.
I don't think GP's are really geared up for an everyday bloke going in and saying he is really struggling either. Obviously being a footballer there will be access to the best therapists, councillors and treatments but as with Clarke Carlisle sometimes not even that can help so it is so much harder for Ian the plumber who wants to get help through the NHS and can't afford to go private.
I know a lot of the emphasis is on people who are suffering to speak out but I think there should be more on how to help people who are suffering. When I was a bit younger I don't think me or my mates would have a clue on how to really help, it would have been a jab on the arm and tell them to stop being gay and let's go down the pub for a few games of pool and a pint or a FIFA / PES tournament round one of our houses. It wasn't that we didn't want to help or didn't care, that would have just been our way of trying to help without really knowing the best way to deal with it properly.
I can see why footballers do have issues and turn to things like gambling or drinking to take their mind away from things, especially when they are injured.
Apart from Lennon, there aren't really many footballers I can think of where they have publicly not been able to play because of a mental issue, imagine for a minute Jodi Jones (just an example) was really suffering and couldn't physically play at the weekend because of battling a mental issue. There is no way the club would say it was that, it would be that he had a bug or something like that so missed the game.
I don't think GP's are really geared up for an everyday bloke going in and saying he is really struggling either. Obviously being a footballer there will be access to the best therapists, councillors and treatments but as with Clarke Carlisle sometimes not even that can help so it is so much harder for Ian the plumber who wants to get help through the NHS and can't afford to go private.
Moff
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Link to a BBC article and interview with him here.
Chris Kirkland: Former England goalkeeper on dealing with his anxiety
As someone who has suffered with depression/anxiety in the past, I wish him all the best for his future and fighting the condition. He has been incredibly brave to bring this into the public gaze and I hope it has been cathartic for him, and it has helped.
Chris Kirkland: Former England goalkeeper on dealing with his anxiety
As someone who has suffered with depression/anxiety in the past, I wish him all the best for his future and fighting the condition. He has been incredibly brave to bring this into the public gaze and I hope it has been cathartic for him, and it has helped.
Hobo
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Go to the back of the class. If you can't detect the genuine despair and fear to voice how you feel in this article...How he tried to battle and suppress his emotions because he felt embarrassed by them, How he shut down from contact with others, how he became detached from the supportive family he loved:
You either lack emotion or any empathy or you couldn't be bothered to actually read the article!
mechaishida
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Definitely.
Awareness has undoubtedly been improved in the last 20 years, which is a relief, however I'd like to see a concerted effort by parliament to address the issue; the NHS is on it's arse, GP's are sympathetic but restricted on treatment options.
Quibbling about Brexit and ploughing tax revenue into Defence budgets is all well and good, but a shift in feasible priority would be nice to see.
mechaishida
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When you belittle a chronic, terminal, incurable mental ailment, expect a few emotional replies.
Kirkland has never been an attention seeker, so I doubt he's fabricating it.
Greggs
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Fuck off you c**t. How dare I? Cheeky fucking weasel
Joy Division
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How much money do you think he makes from admitting he's suffering from depression? Genuine question.
Esoterica
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The very fact you say they 'claim to suffer' is already playing down their condition. You think he packed in playing years early and then made up a story so he could make a couple of hundred quid from a guardian article on depression? You're either trolling, a massive ignorant or just an absolute idiot. Either way, you're getting the responses such a ridiculous statement deserves.
robbiekeane
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You are a piece of shit
Covstu
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well done for the most unsympathetic post I have seen on this site (and that is saying a lot!). You have the emotional intelligence of a slug fella, shame on you.