Dale Evans ....... (5 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

The quote is fine, which is why I'd be ok with them C+Ping that endlessly if they need to. Their track record is why I'll take anything they say with a handful of salt, but I'd still prefer it to hearing nothing for long stretches of time, and in this case I consider two months a very long time when it's something that is only nine months away.

People want to know what's going, they're asking every single day. If it was nothing yet in September, tell us if it's nothing yet in October. Tell us again in November and December, and all the time until something changes.

I really don't know why this is putting you out, I'm barely even asking for the actual truth from them.

NICK IS NEVER WRONG!!!

 

---

[Nick]

It didn't say it proves anything, I said it gives the story more legitimacy in my eyes than it would have done had they ignored it completely. I understand that they haven't because he's been very public with it.


The track record is why I don't trust them, it doesn't change anything I've said.


I didn't say it didn't count, it does. I'd like to hear another update even if it's a repeat so it doesn't feel like the concerns are falling on deaf ears.

I think I've explained myself about as much as I can but I feel you're increasingly putting words in my mouth so I'd like to request that we end this discussion here if that's ok.

Sorry if you think I am putting words in your mouth, I am literally just using the words you have posted though?

I can understand you think it's bullshit, but you did go from "I just want them to say they are thinking about it" to then when they do say they are, to it being bullshit anyway.

Like I said before, no idea if they are sat 10 hours a day with Wasps discussing it or nothing else so not saying that. Just posted the quote you said you wanted to hear.

 

[dongonzalos]

You do realise I posted the quote in reply to this:



Surely he / they aren't going to lay all of their cards out on the table straight off and tell everybody every option they are considering etc? It's like expecting the list of Trust questions to be answered in full.

Even with the most transparent Chairman ever, they aren't going to pour their heart out are they?

No not pure his heart out just actually say what is happening it’s not that hard.

We are in talks with Wasps.
We asked for talks with Wasps they said not till the legal action is over.
We are not in talks with Wasps it asked for talks we are considering other options.

 

[Nick]

NICK IS NEVER WRONG!!!

I wasn't though was I? It's all well and good you acting like Sky Blue Kid and foaming up at the thought of it though.

If he had said "I want concrete evidence they are sorting it" and I used that quote then you would have a point.

 

[dongonzalos]

I think we'll be OK. Maybe he's being professional and getting on with it, without spouting off on social media? Of course, he could just be sat on his arse looking at memes but think we should leave this until nearer Christmas.

Maybe he is, maybe Wasps won’t talk to him.
Maybe they are talking to him.
Maybe he is about to sign us up for a year at Walsall.
Maybe we shouldn’t be so cheeky and expect to be told anything and just trust that SISU will do what’s best for the club. Like they always have done in the past.
Hey ho it’s less than 8 months away. It’s no big deal. Now more importantly where can I have a pop at Wasps on the internet. That is very important.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

More importantly as long as we survive. I am not into the club dissapearing as long as it inconveniences Wasps. Which seems more of a priority to you. I don’t give a rats ass about Wasps

Just all for working with them. We wont disappear, whether we inconvenience Wasps or not. Oh and as for my priorities, they are CCFC and CRFC, not Wasps or CCC.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

Maybe he is, maybe Wasps won’t talk to him.
Maybe they are talking to him.
Maybe he is about to sign us up for a year at Walsall.
Maybe we shouldn’t be so cheeky and expect to be told anything and just trust that SISU will do what’s best for the club. Like they always have done in the past.
Hey ho it’s less than 8 months away. It’s no big deal. Now more importantly where can I have a pop at Wasps on the internet. That is very important.

Have I been having a pop at Wasps though? Maybe we should let him get on with it, rather than being over dramatic. Although, you do do that very well.

 

[ajsccfc]

Sorry if you think I am putting words in your mouth, I am literally just using the words you have posted though?

Clearly there are crossed wires about a few things, I neither said that anything about Evans has been proven nor that a statement the club made in September doesn't count.

I can understand you think it's bullshit, but you did go from "I just want them to say they are thinking about it" to then when they do say they are, to it being bullshit anyway.

I haven't changed tact about it, sorry if it appears I have. I don't trust them and haven't for years so take it as read that anything they say could be bullshit, but the statement they made in September is fine and at least goes some way to placating concerns. Not hearing anything else until something is more concrete is all well and good but when you've got however many people asking what's going on I'd rather hear 'nothing yet' than nothing at all.

The original point about them not talking about it was really just to illustrate how much attention they've had to give to a guy who originally seemed to be just a guy on Facebook with some photos of cars and massive collection of bookies pens in a drawer, I didn't intend to disappear down this rabbit hole.

 

[Esoterica]

Have I been having a pop at Wasps though? Maybe we should let him get on with it, rather than being over dramatic. Although, you do do that very well.

They have lost the right to just be allowed to get on with it. I would at least like to know from the club if Wasps are engaging with Boddy at a meaningful level. While not expecting to know the finer points of any conversation at least we would have some hope then from what would have been a softening in Wasps stance.

 

[Nick]

Maybe he is, maybe Wasps won’t talk to him.
Maybe they are talking to him.
Maybe he is about to sign us up for a year at Walsall.
Maybe we shouldn’t be so cheeky and expect to be told anything and just trust that SISU will do what’s best for the club. Like they always have done in the past.
Hey ho it’s less than 8 months away. It’s no big deal. Now more importantly where can I have a pop at Wasps on the internet. That is very important.

Surely they aren't going to say all of that until it's done though? The same as they didn't when they were working on the academy stuff and then didn't say anything until they signed an extension earlier on in the year?

It isn't ideal, but they aren't going to lay their cards out on the table without something being sorted are they?

Good dig about where you can have a pop at Wasps on the internet though, you might want to have a look as we have seen what happens when you try to talk about the football team you support's games.

 

[Nick]

Clearly there are crossed wires about a few things, I neither said that anything about Evans has been proven nor that a statement the club made in September doesn't count.



I haven't changed tact about it, sorry if it appears I have. I don't trust them and haven't for years so take it as read that anything they say could be bullshit, but the statement they made in September is fine and at least goes some way to placating concerns. Not hearing anything else until something is more concrete is all well and good but when you've got however many people asking what's going on I'd rather hear 'nothing yet' than nothing at all.

No, you were saying that because they had replied it makes it look more plausible which I was asking why and trying to understand. Whether we believe them or not, they do make statements and even more so now they do the boardroom stuff in the programmes. He was on the radio claiming it was a done deal for him to takeover and clearly on overdrive on Facebook and then to the telegraph, it's a long way from them making a statement about a mental post on here or something accusing them of something.

The quote from September was exactly what you said you wanted. I wasn't making any judgement on what is actually going on. As soon as I provided that, what you wanted suddenly changed because it was too old and you didn't trust them.

 

[ccfcway]

NICK IS NEVER WRONG!!!

To be fair, he is. He even said sorry on one thread last week

 

[SkyBlueZack]

They have lost the right to just be allowed to get on with it. I would at least like to know from the club if Wasps are engaging with Boddy at a meaningful level. While not expecting to know the finer points of any conversation at least we would have some hope then from what would have been a softening in Wasps stance.

So why expect them to all of a sudden be open and communicative? I imagine there is little conversation at the moment as all parties are playing brinkmanship. However I firmly believe we'll be at the Ricoh next season.

 

[ajsccfc]

No, you were saying that because they had replied it makes it look more plausible which I was asking why and trying to understand.

I said that, but I didn't say it proves anything about him, which is what you apparently took from the literal words I posted.

The quote from September was exactly what you said you wanted. I wasn't making any judgement on what is actually going on. As soon as I provided that, what you wanted suddenly changed because it was too old and you didn't trust them.

Nothing 'suddenly' changed at all, as I've clearly explained before you again decide to tell me what my viewpoint is.

Let's please stop all this now.

 

[dongonzalos]

Surely they aren't going to say all of that until it's done though? The same as they didn't when they were working on the academy stuff and then didn't say anything until they signed an extension earlier on in the year?

It isn't ideal, but they aren't going to lay their cards out on the table without something being sorted are they?

Good dig about where you can have a pop at Wasps on the internet though, you might want to have a look as we have seen what happens when you try to talk about the football team you support's games.

The dig was actually at Zack who keeps bringing them up.
Yes we have seen what happens when I talk to you about Football.
You struggle to get your head round the idea that a team will pass the ball more to a striker who is on fire and is scoring goals for fun. Over ones who can’t score for toffee.
Then I give up.
After we agree that you are never wrong about anything and if you put a decent striker in this team he wouldn’t score anyway as nobody would make any chances for him.

 

[dongonzalos]

I said that, but I didn't say it proves anything about him, which is what you apparently took from the literal words I posted.


Nothing 'suddenly' changed at all, as I've clearly explained before you again decide to tell me what my viewpoint is.

Let's please stop all this now.

Don’t waste your time ajsccfc. He won’t give up. He is never wrong.
When he is he will just decide what you are saying for you, in order to make his point. Quite similar to Grendel.
You will go round in circles for ever.
Genuinely it isn’t worth your time.

 

[Nick]

The dig was actually at Zack who keeps bringing them up.
Yes we have seen what happens when I talk to you about Football.
You struggle to get your head round the idea that a team will pass the ball more to a striker who is on fire and is scoring goals for fun. Over ones who can’t score for toffee.
Then I give up.
After we agree that you are never wrong about anything and if you put a decent striker in this team he wouldn’t score anyway as nobody would make any chances for him.

No, we have seen my 8 year old daughter could name more things that happen during our games than you. Which is strange when you want to try and preach about talking about certain things online.

 

[wingy]

He's not the problem though is he, he's not making the club homeless again in May. He's actually a convenient distraction for our owners currently isn't he?! After all this takeover talk dies down, the question still remains firmly on our owners, where is our future?

Surely not.
That would be so reminiscent of the RB shenanigans last year, which emininated out of the Club itself.

 

[Nick]

I said that, but I didn't say it proves anything about him, which is what you apparently took from the literal words I posted.


Nothing 'suddenly' changed at all, as I've clearly explained before you again decide to tell me what my viewpoint is.

Let's please stop all this now.

I wasn't trying to say they are truthful or just be trusted, it was just an example of what is she quite common

"We want a statement about this"
"Statement"
"Bullshit anyway"

 

[ajsccfc]

Don’t waste your time ajsccfc. He won’t give up. He is never wrong.
When he is he will just decide what you are saying for you, in order to make his point. Quite similar to Grendel.
You will go round in circles for ever.
Genuinely it isn’t worth your time.

I like Nick and I don't really want to be part of any kind of feud or argument like the kind that have a habit of developing on here so I hope we can just leave it where it is and crack on to be honest.

 

[Nick]

Don’t waste your time ajsccfc. He won’t give up. He is never wrong.
When he is he will just decide what you are saying for you, in order to make his point. Quite similar to Grendel.
You will go round in circles for ever.
Genuinely it isn’t worth your time.

I wasn't wrong though was I?

 

[SkyBlueZack]

The dig was actually at Zack who keeps bringing them up.
Yes we have seen what happens when I talk to you about Football.
You struggle to get your head round the idea that a team will pass the ball more to a striker who is on fire and is scoring goals for fun. Over ones who can’t score for toffee.
Then I give up.
After we agree that you are never wrong about anything and if you put a decent striker in this team he wouldn’t score anyway as nobody would make any chances for him.

You mentioned them in your if I won the euro millions post to which I replied and you have ignored. As for mentioning Wasps, I have. Have I been having digs at them though? Which is what you implied I was doing.

 

[Nick]

I like Nick and I don't really want to be part of any kind of feud or argument like the kind that have a habit of developing on here so I hope we can just leave it where it is and crack on to be honest.

I didn't mean anything personal by it, apologies if you took it that way.

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

Copy and paste that same thing every few weeks, it's got to be better than nothing. The main thing people are asking them is about next season, for a club that keeps saying that they want transparency and better communication I'd personally feel better hearing that there's no news rather than not hear anything at all.

There would be no harm in them saying discussions with Wasps are ongoing, if they are. The problem for Fisher and friends would be that with 8 months and 15 games until we are homeless that they have not had discussions with anyone. That would be a difficult announcement, if true, to put across in a positive way. The fact is that the longer they continue to say nothing, the more likely it would seem that the last scenario is true. It is fine Body coming out to say we hope to have news shortly or before Christmas or whatever, with Sisu's track record it will reassure nobody, only the few Sisu defenders on here.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

Another one, SISU defender. Hahaha

 

[rob9872]

Cliff notes for those who can't be arsed reading the first 28 pages:

1. Some guy called Dale says he wants to buy the club
   
2. Many disbelieve and try to discredit him whilst others say he’s genuine
   
3. Some knobheads have had a pop at the blokes family
   
4. Lots of people suggesting they don’t believe it, but hope it’s true
5. Dale advises he's now part of the consortium as he can't quite afford it on his own
6. More people convinced it's bullsh*t
   
7. Gary Hoffman confirms he’s seen the funds
   
8. A little backtracking mixed with some scepticism and cynicism
   
9. Nick is doing his best to keep 20 arguments open with different posters all at the same time
   

 

[pusbccfc]

Telegraph are really milking it today.

We have articles such as the usual 'Reaction to the news' as well as 'The nearly men who bought Coventry' and now an article where Gilbert is highlighting the reasons someone should buy Coventry.
The latter being a laughable report.

 

[pusbccfc]

Cliff notes for those who can't be arsed reading the first 28 pages:

1. Some guy called Dale says he wants to buy the club
   
2. Many disbelieve and try to discredit him whilst others say he’s genuine
   
3. Some knobheads have had a pop at the blokes family
   
4. Lots of people suggesting they don’t believe it, but hope it’s true
5. Dale advises he's now part of the consortium as he can't quite afford it on his own
6. More people convinced it's bullsh*t
   
7. Gary Hoffman confirms he’s seen the funds
   
8. A little backtracking mixed with some scepticism and cynicism
   
9. Nick is doing his best to keep 20 arguments open with different posters all at the same time

You forgot the part about the discussions in to American politics.

 

[ajsccfc]

Out of interest I searched on Twitter for 'sisu apologist' and it seems to be a handful of the same accounts just raging at people while referring constantly to 'Timmy'

Social media, bringing people together

 

[duffer]

When I stated this morning "Believe me when I say that if Hoffman had stated he was a joker Evans would have deserved every kick he would have got but to be dismissed because he was unorthodox struck me as a) unfair b) jealous c) fearful(that their beloved Sisu days are numbered?)"
It is my reading of why the majority are dismissive of the guy as they don't know him and I feel that it is unfair not to give give Dale Evans the courtesy of the benefit of the doubt, innocent until proven guilty if you like, or in this case proven to be minted as opposed to potless. Deal or No Dale.
I believe that some of the reason is the green eyed monster and jealousy played a part in the damning of Evans(one poster going as far as to say he couldn't have won the money from poker because if he did I would know about it)and finally there are some of the posters here who despite the downward spiral of results, despite the sixfields shame, despite the stadium debacle still hold a candle for the owners and wont hear a word against them but woe betide gormless Dale and his poker pot and fuck me the knives are straight out and planted firmly in his front.
I hope I have clarified my position for you.

Wearing a silly hat is 'unorthodox', lying about meeting someone is, well, lying.

I don't know why it bothers you so much so that it's being pointed out that there are more than a few gaping holes in his story...

I'd be delighted to see SISU go, but I'm not so keen on being used as part of someone's weird attempt at fame. Again.

 

[Grendel]

No not pure his heart out just actually say what is happening it’s not that hard.

We are in talks with Wasps.
We asked for talks with Wasps they said not till the legal action is over.
We are not in talks with Wasps it asked for talks we are considering other options.

What if wasps are talking to the club and both parties have agreed to remain silent until the 2 Year extension is confirmed?

 

[skybluetony176]

I wasn't though was I?.

Called it.

 

[Nick]

Called it.

But didn't disprove it either

 

[We'll_live_and_die]

Cliff notes for those who can't be arsed reading the first 28 pages:

1. Some guy called Dale says he wants to buy the club
   
2. Many disbelieve and try to discredit him whilst others say he’s genuine
   
3. Some knobheads have had a pop at the blokes family
   
4. Lots of people suggesting they don’t believe it, but hope it’s true
5. Dale advises he's now part of the consortium as he can't quite afford it on his own
6. More people convinced it's bullsh*t
   
7. Gary Hoffman confirms he’s seen the funds
   
8. A little backtracking mixed with some scepticism and cynicism
   
9. Nick is doing his best to keep 20 arguments open with different posters all at the same time

 

[Chipfat]

You forgot the part about the discussions in to American politics.

Sorry apparently my fault that one.