Grendel
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Still be grateful Corbyn and the Ira Marxist McDonnell haven't got the purse strings.
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Still be grateful Corbyn and the Ira Marxist McDonnell haven't got the purse strings.
Sick Boy
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No instead we gave a bung to party with links to paramilitaries.
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westcountry_skyblue
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At least the they are on the right side of the fence!!GSTQ
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Fucking hell.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
The same party labour tried to cling to power with in 2010 and the same party which Enoch Powell the friend of Corbyns heroes Anthony Wedgwood Benn and Michael Foot was a member of?
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Which ever party goes grovelling to them to retain power is just as bad.
Grendel
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According to you this isn't a coalition so whose grovelling?
Astute
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I'm more grateful that Diane Abbott hasn't got them :smuggrin:
Sick Boy
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Would a bung be a better description?
mrtrench
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More typical socialist behaviour. Let's not kid ourselves that everyone is equal under socialism. Non-party members are equal and universally poor. Senior party members are very wealthy.
MP received £165,000 from trade union
MP received £165,000 from trade union
clint van damme
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if you still think Labour is a socialist party then you're kidding yourself. Even under Corbyn, all it's done is moved further to the left than it was under Blair, that doesn't make it socialist.
Every man and his dog from the world of big business was courting Corbyn at the Labour party conference including BAE.
I would bet a large sum of money that if Corbyn ever becomes PM he either won't implement banning the sale of arms to the Saudis , or he will water down, his stance.
Banks, oil companies and arms dealers rule the world and if voting jeopardised that they would ban it.
mrtrench
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We will have to disagree. All the evidence I have seen is that Corbyn, McDonnell etc. are extreme Left wingers. They have a long history of being on the extreme left of Labour; they are engaging/promoting ex-members of the British Communist party (Andrew Murray) and I have already shared videos on here of McDonnell stating that he is a Marxist and that he would implement a 20% Wealth Tax (taking money from people's savings) and that he is planning on immediate action when elected to stop a capital flight. That means he is going to stop people taking money abroad.
And their mates are the same:
Abbott: "Some people might think that [Mao] did more harm than good".
Seumas Milne has a history of defending Stalin whilst a journalist.
Murray (whilst still in the Communist Party): "Our Party has already made its basic position of solidarity with Peoples Korea clear."
Momentum, Corbyn's army, is almost exclusively lead by Trotskyists.
And so on.
Momentum have been spreading misinformation on social media, claiming that they are moderates and just want to implement social democracy. At the same time they promote class hatred. Look back at how socialists got into power everywhere else - it's exactly the same approach.
clint van damme
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if they ever get in, which is doubtful, I don't think that will be the reality, as I say, they were been heavily courted by, and courting, big business.
i would be disappointed if Corbyn back tracked on Saudi though, like any politician, I know he won't do everything he says but sorting out our relationship with that toxic regime is a big one for me.
rondog1973
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skybluegod
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Can’t remember who I was talking too about the world becoming too PC, and the infringements on the right of free speech, but I’m sure you have all seen the Labour MP Jared O’Mara, has had to resign, but is what he said all that bad? I’m not saying it is nice what he has said, but to be forced to resign for something he said years ago is, IMO an infringement on free speech.
I mean he said he wanted an orgy with the members girls aloud? Think that would be pretty normal pub/lad talk?
Next he said about some women winning pop idol cause she’s fat... again is that too wrong? Bit harsh maybe, but it is just an opinion.
The third comment was about somebody being sodomised by their own piano?
I’m not saying free speech isn’t a thing still, but I think it’s too the point where you can’t say something you want too, or have an opinion that doesn’t fit in with what society wants.
I mean he said he wanted an orgy with the members girls aloud? Think that would be pretty normal pub/lad talk?
Next he said about some women winning pop idol cause she’s fat... again is that too wrong? Bit harsh maybe, but it is just an opinion.
The third comment was about somebody being sodomised by their own piano?
I’m not saying free speech isn’t a thing still, but I think it’s too the point where you can’t say something you want too, or have an opinion that doesn’t fit in with what society wants.
skybluegod
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Also another thing, is about the universal credit thing. Terrible idea by the conservatives, the two councils in London that were testing it, have said rent arrears are soaring and that food bank referrals were increasing.
97% increase at one food bank.
Glad to see they are reviewing changing it, but still it was poorly thought out in the first place.
97% increase at one food bank.
Glad to see they are reviewing changing it, but still it was poorly thought out in the first place.
chiefdave
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Grendel
Well-Known Member
Odd it’s taken so long but I guess his lack of profile counts against him. That said naz shah and many others were suspended and returned once the dust settles as he will. I guess the phrase “get down bitch” remains ok though as the other charming fellow is a bit higher profile.
Love it also how when some criticism of grotesque behaviour is highlighted there are rather desperate attempts to point the other way.
Still as Jess Phillips found out to her cost, questioning such behaviour against the left wing thugs in the Labour Party comes at a very high price indeed.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
No comment about Davis then? No doubt you'd have throughly enjoyed his 'banter' based on previous comments.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Yeah, but Davis is hip with the kids. Look at this put down he nailed
“Actually it would make a good Optical Express advert.” The bloke can’t get anything right.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
I don’t think so but it’s not the same is it. Abbott told him to fuck off and he and some mate engaged in a private text conversation that became public. No one even suggested he should resign even from the opposition.
Astute
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How many Czechoslovakias does she think there is?
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Her European knowledge was probably gained solely from her camper van experience with Jeremy.
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Grow up ffs. Both loyalist and republican paramilitaries are murdering bastards.
Astute
Well-Known Member
And here goes Abbott again
Diane Abbott refused condemn McDonnell over lynching jibe | Daily Mail Online
Diane Abbott refused condemn McDonnell over lynching jibe | Daily Mail Online
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Struggling also to find any condemnation of the charming Clive Lewis and his unpleasant comments the other week
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
you should follow Nadine Dorries on Twitter, she slated him. Strangely though she has today stuck up for her fellow tory Stephen Crabbe following his
comments, strange that!
There isn't one example of an inappropriate comment from an MP of one party that you can't find the equivalent of from an MP of another party and if rumours are true it's about the get worse with the revelations which are coming, (and not just inappropriate comments, behaviour as well).
Westminster is a fuckin' tax payer funded cesspit.
Astute
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What does that make the EU? :smuggrin:
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Liz Kendall and Jess Phillips both have stated the problem is far more deep rooted in labour - Kendall said this this morning on the politics show. It’s far worse on the left. Do you think a Tory mp would have 600 rape threats from her own party members if she spoke out against sexism?
clint van damme
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can't believe you're using an issue this serious to try and play party politics.
Astute
Well-Known Member
So what were you doing?
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
read my post, Westminister is a cesspit. I used the Dorries example to hi-light the hypocrisy.
If you can find a Labour MP who stuck up for Lewis but condemned Crabbe, (and you probably could if you looked), I'll accuse them of hypocrisy as well.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Indeed. Bizarrely Astute even managed to exploit it to fuel his anti EU agen...sorry I mean neutral agenda.