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[clint van damme]

Any thoughts on the incident or not? You didn’t seem to give any.

why should I? Some idiot have wrecked a cafe, some are Corbyn supporters so what?

Where were your thoughts today when the Finsbury mosque killer, someone very much on the same political page as you said he was going to kill Corbyn and if he could get Sadiq Khan as well it would be all the better?

Where were you're thoughts on two tories who eulogised about social engineering and eugenics, (one at a conference where a paedophile gave a talk), were promoted into government positions a few weeks ago?

That's right, you didn't offer any. Where were your thoughts on todays revelations that the members of the cabinet are again misleading the public over Brexit impact papers? You didn't offer any.
As fucking stupid and pathetic as the people who did this to the cafe were its not in the same league as the things I've mentioned as far as I'm concerned but if you want to indulge in your pathetic whataboutery try with someone whose moral compass is as skewed as yours.

 

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[Kingokings204]

why should I? Some idiot have wrecked a cafe, some are Corbyn supporters so what?

Where were you're thoughts on two tories who eulogised about social engineering and eugenics, (one at a conference where a paedophile gave a talk), were promoted into government positions a few weeks ago?

That's right, you didn't offer any. Where were your thoughts on todays revelations that the members of the cabinet are again misleading the public over Brexit impact papers? You didn't offer any.
As fucking stupid and pathetic as the people who did this to the cafe were its not in the same league as the things I've mentioned as far as I'm concerned but if you want to indulge in your pathetic whataboutery try with someone whose moral compass is as skewed as yours.

Finally we got an opinion out of you. I agree with your opinion that they are stupid and pathetic. I just wanted to raise the point of these morons getting air time.

The points you raised after are fair points. I don’t recognize the term whataboutery as that wasn’t my aim. This is a corbyn thread and these protestor morons are proud corbyn fans or so they claim so I felt it was relevant to the thread. That was my aim.

 

[clint van damme]

Finally we got an opinion out of you. I agree with your opinion that they are stupid and pathetic. I just wanted to raise the point of these morons getting air time.

The points you raised after are fair points. I don’t recognize the term whataboutery as that wasn’t my aim. This is a corbyn thread and these protestor morons are proud corbyn fans or so they claim so I felt it was relevant to the thread. That was my aim.

so by that logic, you are a Corbyn hater and all Corbyn haters should apologise for the actions of the loon who said he was going to kill him?

 

[chiefdave]

I see the pro corbyn brigade vandelized a cafe in London that was a winston churchill themed cafe and called Churchill a racist and a against freedom of liberty.

Corbyns response is nothing. His office has been rung up for comment and there is none.

Deeply Shameful and insulting.

Any one else see this? Please tell me it’s not just me who is utterly horrified and insulted by this.

First off the cafe wasn't vandalised in the incident you are referring to. The protesters were in the cafe for approx 3 mins and read a pre-prepared speech then left. The customers in there at the time ignored them and carried on eating and drinking.

Second, why is it for Corbyn to comment? Its nothing to do with him unless you're somehow trying to imply he is responsible. Seems unlikely as he's a frequent customer there and not just when there's a photo op like the Conservative MP who turned up there with the press in tow today.

 

[Kingokings204]

First off the cafe wasn't vandalised in the incident you are referring to. The protesters were in the cafe for approx 3 mins and read a pre-prepared speech then left. The customers in there at the time ignored them and carried on eating and drinking.

Second, why is it for Corbyn to comment? Its nothing to do with him unless you're somehow trying to imply he is responsible. Seems unlikely as he's a frequent customer there and not just when there's a photo op like the Conservative MP who turned up there with the press in tow today.

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Why is it for Corbyn to comment? Seriously? They claim to be massive corbynistas and are associated with the Labour Party as activists.

They left the staff there shaken and vandelized a Churchill mural which is property of the cafe in previous times.

I’m not blaming Corbyn but denounce these mindless stupid idiots else risk losing thousands of votes. The irony of course Churchill fought nazi germany for their free speech so i think that they should at least be heard however wrong they are.

 

[rupert_bear]

Winston Churchill was still is regarded as a national hero, we know why but if you want to delve into his pre World War 2 political history and antics maybe a different story emerges. These idiots involved in this cafe incident are just that idiots to link them with Corbyn is pathetic and may I say another pitiful attempt to try and bismerch JCs name as the Tories and their failed policies sink, they are becoming increasingly more desperate

 

[clint van damme]

Why is it for Corbyn to comment? Seriously? They claim to be massive corbynistas and are associated with the Labour Party as activists.

They left the staff there shaken and vandelized a Churchill mural which is property of the cafe in previous times.

I’m not blaming Corbyn but denounce these mindless stupid idiots else risk losing thousands of votes. The irony of course Churchill fought nazi germany for their free speech so i think that they should at least be heard however wrong they are.

Still don't understand why Corbyn should comment. You're not making sense.
Let the law deal with them.
You're right about Churchill fighting the Nazis, so it's ironic that the two tory goons I was on about who were actively bigging up two of their most controversial policies ended up in the government.

Still waiting for Corbyn haters to come out and condemn their fellow right winger for wanting to kill Corbyn. Still too busy trying to point score over a bit of alleged vandalism, (see CDs post), to worry about someone plotting to kill the leader of the opposition. You couldn't make it up.

 

[Ian1779]

Still waiting for Corbyn haters to come out and condemn their fellow right winger for wanting to kill Corbyn. Still too busy trying to point score over a bit of alleged vandalism, (see CDs post), to worry about someone plotting to kill the leader of the opposition. You couldn't make it up.

Don't hold your breath...

 

[Kingokings204]

Don't hold your breath...

I don’t hate Corbyn personally. I think he is good for politics as he is a clear choice in a general election.

The problem I have with corbyn as a traditional Labour voter is his background on certain subjects and his left wing socialism agenda some would say Marxist and he would no doubt fuck our economy up. Many people have that same view.

Oh and I do Blast anyone who threatens to kill someone. It’s not worth lives.

 

[clint van damme]

I don’t hate Corbyn personally. I think he is good for politics as he is a clear choice in a general election.

The problem I have with corbyn as a traditional Labour voter is his background on certain subjects and his left wing socialism agenda some would say Marxist and he would no doubt fuck our economy up. Many people have that same view.

I know, one of them plotted to kill him. Still waiting for the condemnation from his critics.

How would he fuck the economy up? By ending PFI/PPP agreements or restructuring them?
By clamping down on tax dodging/tax evasion?
Renationalisation of the railways? (they are currently nationalised but just the losses, the profits are privatised).
The central bank ( a Socialist idea apparently but Germany have one and they are the biggest capitalist economy in Europe)

I'm not arrogant enough to say these ideas will definitely work, (as you just did by saying no doubt they wouldn't), but I'm not stupid enough not to see the current economic policy isn't working for the majority and we need to do something different.

Anyway, if it doesn't work, you or one of your kind can try and assassinate him again!

 

[rondog1973]

I don’t hate Corbyn personally. I think he is good for politics as he is a clear choice in a general election.

The problem I have with corbyn as a traditional Labour voter is his background on certain subjects and his left wing socialism agenda some would say Marxist and he would no doubt fuck our economy up. Many people have that same view.

Oh and I do Blast anyone who threatens to kill someone. It’s not worth lives.

A traditional Labour voter with a problem with a left wing socialist agenda?

Back to school you.

 

[Kingokings204]

A traditional Labour voter with a problem with a left wing socialist agenda?

Back to school you.

Yeah no wonder Labour haven’t been in power for 8 years. They must be doing something right.... oh wait.

Dear oh dear

 

[clint van damme]

Yeah no wonder Labour haven’t been in power for 8 years. They must be doing something right.... oh wait.

Dear oh dear

You've missed the point of his post quite spectacularly.

 

[Kingokings204]

You've missed the point of his post quite spectacularly.

Coming from you who misses the point every post I really am worried. Apologies old son.

I will re read now.

 

[Ian1779]

The problem I have with corbyn as a traditional Labour voter is his background on certain subjects and his left wing socialism agenda some would say Marxist and he would no doubt fuck our economy up.

Where is the evidence it would fuck up our economy - it's a shitty slogan pumped out by the Mail/Times/Telegraph.

Our economy already does not work for huge numbers of people in this country, so how it could be defined as a good model now is laughable.

Labour may well not be able to implement everything that have said and want to do, but if they manage to implement some aspects that it will have a positive impact on a lot of people.

 

[Ian1779]

Yeah no wonder Labour haven’t been in power for 8 years. They must be doing something right.... oh wait.

Dear oh dear

They've been out of power because people realised what Labour had become... Tory-lite in a red tie.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

By ending PFI/PPP agreements or restructuring them?
By clamping down on tax dodging/tax evasion?
Renationalisation of the railways? (they are currently nationalised but just the losses, the profits are privatised).
The central bank ( a Socialist idea apparently but Germany have one and they are the biggest capitalist economy in Europe)

Still baffled/concerned by the view that policies such as the above are seen as radically left wing.

Equally bemused how criticism of left wing policies for being left wing can come from traditional Labour voters!

 

[Kingokings204]

They've been out of power because people realised what Labour had become... Tory-lite in a red tie.

Yeah fair point. I 100% agree.

 

[Kingokings204]

Still baffled/concerned by the view that policies such as the above are seen as radically left wing.

Equally bemused how criticism of left wing policies for being left wing can come from traditional Labour voters!

You forget. The times have changed. Millions of Labour voters went to ukip in 2015 giving tories a majority. Says it all to me.

 

[clint van damme]

You forget. The times have changed. Millions of Labour voters went to ukip in 2015 giving tories a majority. Says it all to me.

fuck me, you're still missing the point! Sorry, is it me, is this a wind up?! Got me, fair play!

 

[Kingokings204]

fuck me, you're still missing the point! Sorry, is it me, is this a wind up?! Got me, fair play!

Are you winding me up?

What are you missing this time?

 

[clint van damme]

Are you winding me up?

What are you missing this time?

you're claiming to be a traditional Labour voter who is moaning about traditional Labour policies for fucks sake. Unless you think Blairism is traditional Labour?

 

[fernandopartridge]

You forget. The times have changed. Millions of Labour voters went to ukip in 2015 giving tories a majority. Says it all to me.

Because at the time even UKIP were promising vaguely left wing policies such as protecting the NHS and re-nationalising the railways. You really ought to try and thinking outside the prism of how the MSM present the world.

 

[Kingokings204]

you're claiming to be a traditional Labour voter who is moaning about traditional Labour policies for fucks sake. Unless you think Blairism is traditional Labour?

I hate Blair more than anyone. He wasn’t Labour and he is a big reason tories have won 3 successive general elections.

I just think times have moved on from buying back the railways and 1970 politics corbyn represents.

However I do like the clear choice between Labour and tories as you couldn’t split them for many decades. Now you can certainly.

 

[Ian1779]

I hate Blair more than anyone. He wasn’t Labour and he is a big reason tories have won 3 successive general elections.

I just think times have moved on from buying back the railways and 1970 politics corbyn represents.

However I do like the clear choice between Labour and tories as you couldn’t split them for many decades. Now you can certainly.

Saving the NHS
Eliminating homelessness
Building affordable housing

Wouldn't say that they are 1970's ideas - they are what this country is in desperate need of.

 

[clint van damme]

I hate Blair more than anyone. He wasn’t Labour and he is a big reason tories have won 3 successive general elections.

I just think times have moved on from buying back the railways and 1970 politics corbyn represents.

However I do like the clear choice between Labour and tories as you couldn’t split them for many decades. Now you can certainly.

which you're fully entitled to do but that would suggest your politics have moved on and you are no longer a traditional Labour voter.

Howe do you feel about the fact that we are bailing out failed rail franchises like Bransons East coast franchise with public money but he keeps the profits from his successful West coast franchise?

You think that's a better model than nationalisation?

 

[fernandopartridge]

I hate Blair more than anyone. He wasn’t Labour and he is a big reason tories have won 3 successive general elections.

I just think times have moved on from buying back the railways and 1970 politics corbyn represents.

However I do like the clear choice between Labour and tories as you couldn’t split them for many decades. Now you can certainly.

Surprised you're not pro EU as they're keen on EU wide privatisation of railways.

 

[Kingokings204]

which you're fully entitled to do but that would suggest your politics have moved on and you are no longer a traditional Labour voter.

Howe do you feel about the fact that we are bailing out failed rail franchises like Bransons East coast franchise with public money but he keeps the profits from his successful West coast franchise?

You think that's a better model than nationalisation?

I actually agree but the alternative of us buying the railways is a fortune but I’m not dead against it.

 

[Ian1779]

which you're fully entitled to do but that would suggest your politics have moved on and you are no longer a traditional Labour voter.

Howe do you feel about the fact that we are bailing out failed rail franchises like Bransons East coast franchise with public money but he keeps the profits from his successful West coast franchise?

You think that's a better model than nationalisation?

The same Branson that tried to sue the NHS over allocation of health services contracts.....

 

[Captain Dart]

I see the pro corbyn brigade vandelized a cafe in London that was a winston churchill themed cafe and called Churchill a racist and a against freedom of liberty.

Corbyns response is nothing. His office has been rung up for comment and there is none.

Deeply Shameful and insulting.

Any one else see this? Please tell me it’s not just me who is utterly horrified and insulted by this.

 

[westcountry_skyblue]

Labour and its activists are just happy to be a protest party since the 70's excluding the so called"tory lite" Blair.
Don't think they would ever want power as that front bench is a bit like the keystone cops ie don't think they would have a clue to do know what to do!!
Doesn't matter which party you support the top dogs always will be ok,All quaffing champers and on the piss together!!

 

[shmmeee]

You forget. The times have changed. Millions of Labour voters went to ukip in 2015 giving tories a majority. Says it all to me.

No they didn’t. Labour's shrinking vote | LabourList

Labour lost 5% of voters to UKIP in 2015, or about 470k voters.

For comparison Tories lost roughly 12% of their voters to UKIP.

 

[shmmeee]

I actually agree but the alternative of us buying the railways is a fortune but I’m not dead against it.

Nah you just bring them in as the contracts run down. That’s been Labour policy since Miliband.

 

[clint van damme]

Nah you just bring them in as the contracts run down. That’s been Labour policy since Miliband.

looks like the East coast franchise could be coming back under public ownership. Can't be said often enough until it sinks in - privatised profits, nationalised losses.

 

[skybluetony176]

looks like the East coast franchise could be coming back under public ownership. Can't be said often enough until it sinks in - privatised profits, nationalised losses.

Impossible. There’s no magic money tree to do such thing