Tic, Toc, Tic, Toc (18 Viewers)

letsallsingtogether

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I generally like Robins but we are a L2 team and by default, have a manager with flaws, players who are either wanting to get into the game at a higher level or cheap salary ones, the manager is only a few games away from the pressure of the sack.

Personally, Robins has always liked to play through the middles and be cautious, grinding teams down and playing on the break, did it well with Goldy in his first stint. Was hoping McNulty would do the same.

He doesn’t do the second or third options well when the first style changes, the teams comfortable at the top have pace and width and that exposes teams at this level. I don’t know the budget or what he was allowed to do but it’s not the perfect balance for options in games. I know he has had injuries and you could argue jones was the one wide man but we needed 2 or 3 to cover those injuries.

Overall though, I would stick with him for now and into next season. If we win our two games in hand we are in the play off’s, this club hasn’t achieved top 6 for 48 years, it’s not easy for any manager to break this.

And spare a thought for the players, how can they interpret his “squeaking”, must be very difficult for them.
Exactly this.
We keep chopping managers and squad players and yet we are shit season after season.
Why should a new manager who ever it my be be any better.
 

higgs

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We need fight and courage and we got that from the players. Win our next two games and we will be right back in contention for the playoffs. JCH if we had him all season we would be in the autos

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skybluetony176

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John Coleman from
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So we sack Robins after one season and appoint John Coleman. You do know it’s taken Coleman 3 seasons to build a promotion chasing team at Accrington don’t you? Given you want Robins out after a season what’s the chances of you allowing Coleman three seasons to build a promotion chasing team? Slim to zero would be my guess. I’d even go as far as putting you down as being one of the first ones calling for him to go. Most likely in his first season.
 

steve82

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So we sack Robins after one season and appoint John Coleman. You do know it’s taken Coleman 3 seasons to build a promotion chasing team at Accrington don’t you? Given you want Robins out after a season what’s the chances of you allowing Coleman three seasons to build a promotion chasing team? Slim to zero would be my guess. I’d even go as far as putting you down as being one of the first ones calling for him to go. Most likely in his first season.

Be the same John Coleman who failed in L1 at Rochdale before and seems to be best fit at Accrington where he's enjoyed the best of his career as a professional manager and as you say has had the benefit of several summers to get all his own players in.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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If you look at the record of Coventry City under Robins you will find that he has stopped the rot, a rot that has plagued this club for years and years and plunged it into an almost unstoppable decline. Mowbray managed to halt it briefly but failed to follow up with bringing players in during the following summer, with consequences we all know of . At this particular time sacking Robins would be a huge gamble. Granted, we look as though the likelihood is we may have to remain in division 4 for another season, but to remove Robins now would almost guarantee that. I'm all for changing the manager when it becomes obvious he has taken the team as far as he can after 2-3 seasons but when did we wait that long ? Robins hasn't actually contributed to making us a worse club than before.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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John Coleman from
Accrington
Some managers are a good fit at certain clubs but not at others. I think this is the case with Robins here. It is certainly the case with Coleman at Accrington. In his second spell there. When he left the first time to take over at Rochdale he was sacked after only a year. Now into his fourth year at Accrington and has been given that time to build the club.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Some managers are a good fit at certain clubs but not at others. I think this is the case with Robins here. It is certainly the case with Coleman at Accrington. In his second spell there. When he left the first time to take over at Rochdale he was sacked after only a year. Now into his fourth year at Accrington and has been given that time to build the club.

The best is probably Howe at Bournemouth, phenomenal record but very average at Burnley in between
 

Esoterica

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As long as he keeps setting us like he did for the first 15 minutes yesterday then the results will start to look after themselves and he can stay as long as he likes. It's taken him too long to get there, which I have been critical of him for but if the lesson has been finally learned then all the other good things he's doing are amplified rather than undermined, as they have been recently. You can create all the infrastructure and environment you like but if the first team tactics are broken you will never survive long. Very excited for Wycombe now if we start off in the same vein.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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We need fight and courage and we got that from the players. Win our next two games and we will be right back in contention for the playoffs. JCH if we had him all season we would be in the autos

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Suspect if we had Jones and Andreu not injured for the whole season you could say the same
 

Grendel

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Yes he has one of the biggest budgets in this league don't you know.
Now we have been hearing that for many seasons and some still believe it:)

Budgets are an irrelevance.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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As long as he keeps setting us like he did for the first 15 minutes yesterday then the results will start to look after themselves and he can stay as long as he likes. It's taken him too long to get there, which I have been critical of him for but if the lesson has been finally learned then all the other good things he's doing are amplified rather than undermined, as they have been recently. You can create all the infrastructure and environment you like but if the first team tactics are broken you will never survive long. Very excited for Wycombe now if we start off in the same vein.

Before this 3 game skid of ours, we were 3rd, no? Or at least in the playoffs. Objectively, that was good going. I get the feeling he’s realised with the fixtures coming up, we have to ‘go for it’. With both Wycombe and Lincoln losing 4-2 and 4-1 respectively, the landscape could look far better for us come next week. We have probably been too conservative this season, and since or defence hasn’t been as reliable as of late, we simply need to approach games in a more attacking manner.
 

thekidfromstrettoncamp

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I am 1 of the 1's calling for him to go my problem was his inability to think of change yesterday he did although circumstances helped . Why not carry on and stop playing 2 D M players and be just a bit more proactive and make the opposition worry more about us than us about them.
 

Grendel

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Pmsl try telling that to the bottom half of the prem league when you look at the top 6.
What a ridiculous statement

No because you are confusing spend vs budget
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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His budget is the highest by miles in that league. Sitting pretty having relegated them last season.
Budgets are an irrelevance.

Is it just me ? Perhaps budgets are relevant only on days of the week when it rains and when the sun's out then sod it we all bugger off to Swanage for the day. Lovely.
 

fernandopartridge

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I am 1 of the 1's calling for him to go my problem was his inability to think of change yesterday he did although circumstances helped . Why not carry on and stop playing 2 D M players and be just a bit more proactive and make the opposition worry more about us than us about them.

We left two strikers on you absolute dope
 

Grendel

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Is it just me ? Perhaps budgets are relevant only on days of the week when it rains and when the sun's out then sod it we all bugger off to Swanage for the day. Lovely.

No I keep making the points so people understand their irrelevance.
 

thekidfromstrettoncamp

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Call me what you like "fernandopartridge" but when naming you team last week for Saturday I noticed you did not name Max have you finally seen the light . There is a difference between 2 strikers this week and last weeks 1 and a passenger.Where in that post did I say he did not leave 2 strikers on . I said stop playing 2 D M and be a bit more adventurous I am talking of games in the run in.
 
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Grendel

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Try telling that to all the people saying we should sack Robins because we have one of the highest budgets in the league therefore finishing out of the top 3 or top 7 is failure.

You could have the biggest budget but spend less than every other team.
 

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